I'll be watching, but it won't matter in this state because they'll never put one of these guys on the ballot.
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Libertarian debate to be aired on FOX business April 1st.
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Mega, this year there is a very real chance there WILL be a Libertarian Presidential candidate on the Oklahoma ballot for President. They are going through the Petition signatures right now and they submitted more than twice the required numbers for Party recognition. You will also surely see statewide candidates as well.
The candidate will need 10% of the Presidential vote for the Libertarians to stay on the ballot in the next four years. The percentage needed may end up changing if legislation in Oklahoma to do so passes this session. That's why.....in a state that is obviously going to send its electoral college votes to the Republican nominee....you really get more value for your vote by going Libertarian this year if you are ultimately allowed. Also, if the Libertarians are an official party four years from now, I may run for office....almost for sure 8 years from now...so you'd have that going for you as well.
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Inaccurate.
An independent candidate for President in Oklahoma must also submit a Petition with verified and affirmed signatures in the number of 3% of all the votes in the last Presidential election.
A candidate from a recognized party under Oklahoma law can get on the ballot through the party. In order to become a recognized party, a third party must submit a Petition with 5% of all the votes from the state's last election for the highest position on the ballot. Then to stay a recognized party, they must poll at least 10% on subsequent ballots for the highest position in those general elections.
The Petition times and signature verification process is convoluted and complicated. The deck is definitely stacked against third party recognition efforts. Despite that fact, the "lazy" Oklahoma Libertarian party recently submitted almost twice the necessary signatures to obtain recognition status in Oklahoma. Once those signatures are verified and approved by the courts, they will be having a Primary for State offices on June 28.
There is a question as to whether, a 3rd party.....properly recognized under state law after the Presidential Primary....will be able to place a Presidential candidate on the ballot this year without going through the independent candidate petition route. I think they can place the party nominee for President on the ballot this year by paying filing fees only, but I'm not sure.
Mega, this year there is a very real chance there WILL be a Libertarian Presidential candidate on the Oklahoma ballot for President. They are going through the Petition signatures right now and they submitted more than twice the required numbers for Party recognition. You will also surely see statewide candidates as well.
The candidate will need 10% of the Presidential vote for the Libertarians to stay on the ballot in the next four years. The percentage needed may end up changing if legislation in Oklahoma to do so passes this session. That's why.....in a state that is obviously going to send its electoral college votes to the Republican nominee....you really get more value for your vote by going Libertarian this year if you are ultimately allowed. Also, if the Libertarians are an official party four years from now, I may run for office....almost for sure 8 years from now...so you'd have that going for you as well.
You run and I will donate all the photography and graphic design you need.
Actually, I'm pretty sure I'm correct.
You've cited the rules for the General Election ballot in November for President and State Office elections . Mega's post, if I'm understanding his intent of watching the Libertarian Debate - thus who would be nominated at the upcoming Libertarian National Convention; is not governed by said rules.
Other than Oklahoma statutes enacting OK as a binding-delegate state in Preferential Presidential Primary elections, I don't know of any laws governing whether or not the LIbertarian Party can, lets say for sake of argument, mail Mega a ballot that he can put his two cents in for who gets Nominated at the LNC. I'll look it up, but I'm almost positive that the Green Party and American Elect Party are nominating their candidates by online/internet voting this year. Maybe this is illegal for OK residents to participate, but I really don't think so.
Mega said it won't matter I this state (Oklahoma) because it they won't put one of these guys on the ballot.
You then said you're pretty sure all you have to do to get on the ballot is pay a fee and costs associated with the ballot.
Mega, IMO was pretty clearly stating he was going to watch the debate even though the Libertarian won't be allowed on the ballot "in this state".
Getting on the ballot in Oklahoma is much more involved than what you indicated.
Mega might clear up exactly what he meant, but it seems we're interpreting it differently and thus our differing responses. You were talking about ballots for the Party nomination. I was talking about election ballots for the general election.
Btw, the state parties decide how to assign delegates to the Libertarian Party convention to be held. Three states do it by primary. Others do it by different methods. There will be delegates from all 50 states.
You then said you're pretty sure all you have to do to get on the ballot is pay a fee and costs associated with the ballot.
Mega, IMO was pretty clearly stating he was going to watch the debate even though the Libertarian won't be allowed on the ballot "in this state".
Getting on the ballot in Oklahoma is much more involved than what you indicated.
Mega might clear up exactly what he meant, but it seems we're interpreting it differently and thus our differing responses. You were talking about ballots for the Party nomination. I was talking about election ballots for the general election.
Btw, the state parties decide how to assign delegates to the Libertarian Party convention to be held. Three states do it by primary. Others do it by different methods. There will be delegates from all 50 states.
