Lots and lots of smoke that he will retire within a year. Remember that the next time someone asks you why you voted for Trump. Now we just need that lunatic Ginsberg to retire as well.
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These appointments are why it was critical for him to win.
Many of his policies are pretty meh, but he's still doing a great job of not being Hillary.
Dems are following Ginsberg around with an oxygen bottle and defibrillator in case she expires. If they can't revive her then they'll throw sunglasses on her and drag her around like Weekend at Bernie's.
If Trump can replace Kennedy and Ginsberg then libs are screwed for at least 20+ years.
If Trump can replace Kennedy and Ginsberg then libs are screwed for at least 20+ years.
Fixed it for you. She'll never retire.
Supreme Court appointments is THE reason I voted for Trump. Otherwise, I would have gladly voted third party.
I just read some nonsense about some transgender but job choosing not to identify its offspring as any certain gender. I think this was permitted in canada. It must not be permitted in the United States ever under any circumstance. That's why i voted for Trump. The line has to be drawn somewhere
Soon, parents will deem their children another species altogether and raise them accordingly. Or maybe deem them inanimate objects? Or planets? You must be open minded.
Are we prepared to drop gender all together as a form of identification or segregation? That's going to do a real number on Title IX. I don't really have a dog in this hunt, but either the women's groups or the LGBT groups are going to lose out here.
Strong case there, champ.
Point taken.....what kind of psychological damage do you think occurs when a parent raises a child to be "gender neutral" and tells the child that they are neither a boy or a girl?
This lunacy is what you are advocating for:
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...rs-later-preschooler-on-top-of-the-world.html
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...rs-later-preschooler-on-top-of-the-world.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40480386
Hearing from the parent, I'd say no more than a parent that is raising a kid to believe say "women are to be obedient and subservient to men" or any other number of gender based beliefs.
You disagreeing with it doesn't make it child abuse.
I'm not advocating for it.
It's just not child abuse.
And it's none of my business.
Or yours.
Those parents and kids seem a little weird, but hardly abused or emotionally or psychologically damaged.
Not my cup of tea, personally.
But not child abuse.
50% of people who identify as "transgender" attempt suicide. Much higher rates of drug abuse and STDs than the general population. Known risks of blood costs and various cancers with hormone therapy. No longterm studies on whether or not hormone replacement therapy is actually safe.
Yeah it absolutely is child abuse.
Those articles and the original post said NOTHING about raising the children as transgender. Nothing about hormone therapy.
It is not child abuse to fail to designate that your child is a particular gender and raise them according to traditional gender stereotypes.
Did you read the article I linked? Their ten year-old thinks he is "transgender." Forcing hormones on him is the next logical step for these lunatics.
1. You don't know from that article what sex the child even is.
2. You are making a huge leap of illogic from 10 year old understands sex and gender aren't necessarily the same thing and "forcing hormones".
I understand being uncomfortable or disagreeing with the choices of those parents. What I don't agree with is you believing it is alright for the government to impose your traditional notions of gender on those parents under the guise of "child abuse". That's a bridge too far for me.
1. From the article: "Jazz prefers the pronouns “she” and “her.” She identifies as a transgender girl, having begun her transition three days before she turned 7."
2. When these lunatics take Jazz to a clinic in a few years to get hormone replacement therapy then it would be appropriate for Child Protective Services to get involved.
Oh, are you guys talking the Jazz Jennings thing? Apparently he's been on hormone blockers for so long he's stuck with a pre-pubescent penis which prevents him from having gender reassignment surgery because there isn't enough flesh to build the female anatomy.
1. Where in that quote does it say Jazz biologically male?
2. That's a COMPLETELY different discussion than the one we have been having,
The well being of children is not anyone else's business!?
Holy hell you are stupid!
I challenge you to visit an orphanage, a children's hospital, and a family services center to volunteer then return to this board and spew this crap!
As far as the gender neutral thing... let's have science prove any of this gender identity nonsense before we start considering safe or legal.
Holy hell you are stupid!
I challenge you to visit an orphanage, a children's hospital, and a family services center to volunteer then return to this board and spew this crap!
As far as the gender neutral thing... let's have science prove any of this gender identity nonsense before we start considering safe or legal.
Same.
It seems like it could become emotional abuse if taken to an extreme.
The most common stat I just found says that .03% (and that even sounds high) of American adults identify as transgendered. Whether or not they "force hormones" into him or not, statistically it's very unlikely any of their kids would happen to naturally identify as such, and yet who is surprised one did? It would be more surprising if none did. So most likely from a statistical point of view, a heteronormative kid has been led to believe they are something they probably aren't.
My feeling is the parents here are selfishly and artificially creating socially and emotionally confusing obstacles for these kids that go way beyond being supportive of a kid that naturally develops identity confusion on his or her own.
It would be interesting to see if these kids as adults were happy with the social and emotional albatross their parents gave them.
Now, is ot our business? No. But I think it's stupid AF. And probably could be argued as emotional abuse. But a lot of less obvious parents emotionally abuse their kids in a lot of ways, so I wouldn't call this more or less egregious than other far more common examples I could think of.
A hysterical and irrational mischaracterization what O have said.
Which is no surprise coming from you.
Cheers.
So in your opinion the government or others can't dictate parents how to raise children yet you're fine with government funded entities taking children from homes because those homes are unsafe?
You can't have it both ways. Just like you can't be an unidentified gender. I know that's not convenient for you or Jazzy though
How about you state your opinion instead of continuing to mischaracterize and strawman mine?
Jazz Jennings is a biological male. (End of response to JD's post)
I have no idea how transgender crept into a Supreme Court Justice thread, but since it's here I'll comment once. Puberty blockers are only FDA approved for precocious puberty. Using them in transgender adolescents is an off label use.
Proponents argue if the person decides to stop the gender transition, they simply stop taking the hormone blocker and normal puberty resumes. Hopefully that's the case. There has been no research into the long term effects of this use. If it is safe, I believe it's a good therapy to use in transgender persons to delay puberty so that some years of maturing can take place without the permanence that sex hormone therapy can cause. Sex hormone therapy in young people is an entirely different can of worms.
Opponents argue that since the drugs haven't been studied for long term effects in transgenders, and the only studies of use have been in precocious puberty, doctors may doing damage that doesn't surface for years. Specifically they cite concerns of lack of physical and brain development during the adolescent years, which is a valid concern. There may be significant long term consequences for a very short term "solution."
I would hate to think that physicians would let gender activism enter into their practice of medicine, but unfortunately I've already seen that occur. We know about the dangers of sex hormone therapy in adults. We don't know all of the dangers in using it in a younger and younger population. I hope parents and physicians are making decisions with the physical and mental well being of these children as the ONLY priority. If even a tiny bit is self serving, then BIGOSUFAN could be spot on with his assessment of it being a form of abuse.
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Solid post. I lean to side that what the Canadian parent is doing is not child abuse in lawful terms, but is just plain horrible parenting. I don't see how being raised that way has any positive benefits. The parent appears to want to pre-convert their child to transgender or unisex.
Similar thoughts on gay conversion therapy. I highly doubt it works or has benefits, but parents should have rights to do so if they deem it as something they believe.
That said.... I believe the therapy is illegal in some states.
Sad day when over political correctness a spade cannot be called a spade, god forbid we hurt someone's feelings or get labeled as insensitive.
We know the sex of a child at birth, if as an adult they want to alter their sex so be it. It is none of my business, but parents are dumb asses if they can not acknowledge this.
We know the sex of a child at birth, if as an adult they want to alter their sex so be it. It is none of my business, but parents are dumb asses if they can not acknowledge this.
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