John Ketchup Kerry is trying to save his Iran "deal"

[Medic007]

I wonder if this is against the law vis-a-vis the Logan Act. Seems pretty sketchy. It definitely reeks of Ketchup Boy desperation.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/05/politics/john-kerry-iran-deal/index.html

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

I wonder if this is against the law vis-a-vis the Logan Act. Seems pretty sketchy. It definitely reeks of Ketchup Boy desperation.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/05/politics/john-kerry-iran-deal/index.html

Peep walk him right off the plane.

 

[windriverrange]

Can you imagine if Palin or W were doing something like this? How could he save this horrible deal, even if it were legal, and one can’t help help but notice all the libs/progeny/D’s calling him out....NOT!

 

[Rdcldad]

I wonder if this is against the law vis-a-vis the Logan Act?l

i was thinking same thing

 

[imprimis]

Politicians and ex-politicians think they are all above the law. Thus far the Clinton cabal has operated under this premise.

 

[OKSTATE1]

Kerry has no authority, and Iran wants to use him to try make this all blow over so they can get back to making nukes like they did under the prior administration. Just goes to show you how stupid Kerry is, he still wants a deal in which the US gets nothing in return.

 

[Rdcldad]

 

[OKSTATE1]

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Putin only interested in using meeting to learn Israeli intelligence techniques if he can.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

The Logan Act is one of the most unenforced pieces of legislation in American history.

 

[OKSTATE1]

The Logan Act is one of the most unenforced pieces of legislation in American history.

Immigration is, literally millions of crimes unpunished or not enforced.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

Immigration is, literally millions of crimes unpunished or not enforced.

Except the fact that we have several agencies monitoring 24/7 border patrols and detention/deportation, enforcing the law.

 

[OKSTATE1]

Except the fact that we have several agencies monitoring 24/7 border patrols and detention/deportation, enforcing the law.

No, makes it worse, doing a shitty job of trying to enforce the law and in some incidents elected officials purposely not enforcing the law. When they start trying to enforce the Logan act and a bunch of people are immune and suck taxpayers dollars while doing so, now we have equal incompetence.

 

[Medic007]

The Logan Act is one of the most unenforced pieces of legislation in American history.

You lefties were screeching about the Logan Act after the presidential election. Let's hear you screech about it now.

lol

Carry on.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

 

[Headhunter]

Except the fact that we have several agencies monitoring 24/7 border patrols and detention/deportation, enforcing the law.

No, makes it worse, doing a shitty job of trying to enforce the law and in some incidents elected officials purposely not enforcing the law. When they start trying to enforce the Logan act and a bunch of people are immune and suck taxpayers dollars while doing so, now we have equal incompetence.

Get with the program. You only enforce laws liberals like.

 

[imprimis]

Hide and Seek

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile...trump-announce-withdraw-us-iran-deal.amp.html

 

[Medic007]

Looks like Ketchup Boy wasted his time talking to the wrong people. Trump announced the US will withdraw from the Iran deal.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

So now that we won’t have internationally-coordinated nuclear inspectors and set levels of nuclear fuel inventory, Trump is gonna make sure they don’t build nuclear weapons, right?

Surely he and and his new-and-improved national security team have a rock-solid plan to prevent Iranian nuclear proliferation, huh?

 

[Medic007]

So now that we won’t have internationally-coordinated nuclear inspectors and set levels of nuclear fuel inventory, Trump is gonna make sure they don’t build nuclear weapons, right?

Surely he and and his new-and-improved national security team have a rock-solid plan to prevent Iranian nuclear proliferation, huh?

For the Obama fanboy, Google IR-8 centrifuges and get back to us.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

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so?

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

so?

All I hear is pom poms shaking here...

On second thought, an “lol” isn’t appropriate here...giving a rogue state the free pass to build nuclear weapons is sad and pathetic. But ride that Trump Train all the way huh?

 

[COWBOYintheUK]

My two questions are.....first......
You never break a negotiated deal unless you have a better plan ......what is it?
second.....
Why would any country (i.e North Korea) ever trust the US again? This was a multilateral deal, negotiated in good faith. The other countries that signed this , and our own intelligence agencies are saying that Iran is in compliance. The only country saying they are not is Israel, and they have reasons for convincing the US to pull out of this deal which are not in our best interest

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

All I hear is pom poms shaking here...

that's because you are a very shallow thinker.

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

You never break a negotiated deal unless you have a better plan ......what is it?

aren't you some kind of military intelligence guy? isn't this exactly the sort of thing that probably exists but is at present unknown to us here on 24/7?

just seems like an odd thing for you to say.

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

Why would any country (i.e North Korea) ever trust the US again? This was a multilateral deal, negotiated in good faith. The other countries that signed this , and our own intelligence agencies are saying that Iran is in compliance. The only country saying they are not is Israel, and they have reasons for convincing the US to pull out of this deal which are not in our best interest

seems like it would be pretty dumb to assume this is the first NK (or iran for that matter) knew of this, why it happened and what the next step is.

 

[OKSTATE1]

Can we get the airplane full of cash back.

 

[COWBOYintheUK]

aren't you some kind of military intelligence guy? isn't this exactly the sort of thing that probably exists but is at present unknown to us here on 24/7?

just seems like an odd thing for you to say.

I was not a military intel guy, I was an military analyst, I analysed and interpreted the intel.........Iran just did the smartest thing thing they could possibly do......they just announced that they will stay in the agreement with the other signatories.........that makes it virtually impossible for the US to do anything.......it ties our hands completely, and ruins our credibility as a world leader

 

[COWBOYintheUK]

Can we get the airplane full of cash back.

The cash we gave them was theirs, it was from their assets we froze during the Iran hostage crisis..........not that I think we should have given it back, but could not keep it legally

 

[imprimis]

My two questions are.....first......
You never break a negotiated deal unless you have a better plan ......what is it?
second.....
Why would any country (i.e North Korea) ever trust the US again? This was a multilateral deal, negotiated in good faith. The other countries that signed this , and our own intelligence agencies are saying that Iran is in compliance. The only country saying they are not is Israel, and they have reasons for convincing the US to pull out of this deal which are not in our best interest

Or, Obama could have sent this deal to the Senate to ratify as a Treaty which would have limited Trump's ability to get out.

 

[Medic007]

Can we get the airplane full of cash back.

No, the hostages were freed.

 

[Medic007]

What exactly was the US getting from the Iran deals (yes, the side deals that were secret)? Iran gets IR-8 centrifuges to completely modernize their enrichment capability and buckets of cash to invest in it and their delivery technology. What, we get 8 years to not worry while Iran gets 8 years and plenty of money to emerge very prepared to build their bombs? Great "deal."

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

We got internationally coordinated inspections.

 

[TPOKE]

I don't do gifs, but if I did it would be one giving Iran the middle finger. They're no one I'd trust, and they've shown that.

 

[COWBOYintheUK]

What exactly was the US getting from the Iran deals (yes, the side deals that were secret)? Iran gets IR-8 centrifuges to completely modernize their enrichment capability and buckets of cash to invest in it and their delivery technology. What, we get 8 years to not worry while Iran gets 8 years and plenty of money to emerge very prepared to build their bombs? Great "deal."

First let me say that no deal is "great".......deals are a compromise by all parties involved, neither side gets all of what they want......the biggest thing it did was put into place a very high level of monitoring, monitoring every stage of production, delivery and implementation of fissionable material........Iran , like any other country has the right to a peaceful nuclear program, and the deal had curtailed Iran's ability produce or obtain weapons grade material.......the US will now put sanctions back in place, but the other countries in this agreement will not. Unless we want to put sanctions on our closest allies, there is really nothing we can do. And it gives Saudi Arabia an excuse now for producing nuclear weapons, they already have the capability, had chosen not to............

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

I was not a military intel guy, I was an military analyst, I analysed and interpreted the intel.........Iran just did the smartest thing thing they could possibly do......they just announced that they will stay in the agreement with the other signatories.........that makes it virtually impossible for the US to do anything.......it ties our hands completely, and ruins our credibility as a world leader

yikes.

well, i guess we'll have to see how it plays out, huh?

 

[TPOKE]

Or, Obama could have sent this deal to the Senate to ratify as a Treaty which would have limited Trump's ability to get out.

Congress wasn't going to pass it, that's why Obama went his own way.

 

[COWBOYintheUK]

I don't do gifs, but if I did it would be one giving Iran the middle finger. They're no one I'd trust, and they've shown that.

So then why would even trust North Korea? they have actually signed two agreements with the US and broke both of them

 

[TPOKE]

So then why would even trust North Korea? they have actually signed two agreements with the US and broke both of them

I'm not saying I trust NK. I'm actually leaning to the "I don't" side. Really, in today's world, I don't trust anyone.