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JFK vs the Current Dem Crop

Marshal Jim Duncan

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JFK’s 1960 slogan: “Let’s get the country moving again!”

Obama/HRC/Bernie: “Let’s get the country redistributing more!”
 
It's funny, we keep hearing how far to the right Republicans are moving. Rs have actually moved to the left, just not as fast as dems have...I guess perspective.
 
It's funny, we keep hearing how far to the right Republicans are moving. Rs have actually moved to the left, just not as fast as dems have...I guess perspective.


but but but Reagan would be a Democrat today................
 
I'm almost through with Reagan: The Life, by H.W. Brands. I think it's a dam good read, and very fair and blanced.

I thought the first of Steven Hayward's two volumes on Reagan was a superior in terms of coverage of Reagan from 1964-1980 (and on the American political scene in general during that timeframe it is excellent).

But, this book covers a great deal of Reagan's life prior to 1964 which is barely discussed in Hayward's book. Though, Hayward is critical of Reagan and his administration at times, there is no doubt he was/is a true believer. This book is at least as good as Haywards' second volume. And, as I said, Brands is a very fair (and engaging) biographer.
 
"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."

Almost comical now, isn't it?
 
"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."

Almost comical now, isn't it?

This country's decline under the Obama administration is anything but comical. More sickening is the damage he'll do in the next 16 months.
 
The country hasn't done enough for me. Make it do more.

The 2015 liberal version of JFK.
 
Anti immigrant, women, minimum wage, affordable health care, teachers unions, nuclear diplomacy with Iran & higher taxes on billionaires? Not bloody likely...

Want to compare/contrast our nuclear diplomacy with Iran vs. Kennedy's nuclear diplomacy with Cuba/USSR?
 
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Anti immigrant, women, minimum wage, affordable health care, teachers unions, nuclear diplomacy with Iran & higher taxes on billionaires? Not bloody likely...

During President Kennedy's time, the annual limit on immigration was 270,000 persons.

I don't know any conservative person who is opposed to immigration. Illegal immigration is a different story. But if you're trying to draw a comparison to what's happened to this country in the last 20 years to immigration that occurred in 1962, that'll never fly.
 
Anti immigrant, women, minimum wage, affordable health care, teachers unions, nuclear diplomacy with Iran & higher taxes on billionaires? Not bloody likely...

Check out the distribution of votes in the House on the Equal Pay Act of 1963. Draw your own conclusions:

Yea 362
Democrats: 202
Republicans 160

Nay 9
Democrats: 9
Republicans: 0

Present 62
Democrats: 45
Republicans: 17

(Source: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1963/h29)
 
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Kennedy's were very wealthy but compassionate, totally opposite of Republicans. JFK (and RFK) was hated by the right. DMN publisher Dealy stalked him all the way to the White House. However Kennedy made the fatal mistake. His last sashay in Texas would be through middle of Dealy Plaza on way to speech, then to Austin and LBJ Ranch. In an open limo to taunt Dealy. CIC can't make that mistake. Should have listened to his security. They strongly advised against open top. If only rained hadn't ended an hour before how different the world would be.
 
That really is an interesting question that I am sure has been discussed before. Without the assassination I doubt LBJ ever becomes President and without LBJ what happens to Vietnam, The Great Society, and The Civil Rights Act? All of 3 of those issues had monumental effects on our country that continue today.
 
The Civil Rights bill was Kennedy's baby. That would've gone forward.

It's probably true that LBJ would not have become President. On Vietnam -- not sure. I don't think The Geat Society would have happened under JFK, not in the same way at any rate.
 
If only rained hadn't ended an hour before how different the world would be.
Stephen King wrote a book about that very scenario. Well, most of the book is about years of setting up to prevent the killing of Kennedy by a guy who traveled back in tome.
 
Whatever your life is today would not be. I would be here since I'm such a fossil and it happened on my 11th bday. But you guys born during and after 1970s would you have even come along? I feel certain so much of my own life would never have unfolded way it did. That event indirectly changed the paths of all humanity. Very weird to contemplate. Of course same could be said about all history like Civil War and it's cause. Can't dwell on it but safe to say we all hit the biggest lotto of all just being alive, at The Dance, as Garth would say.
 
Stephen King wrote a book about that very scenario. Well, most of the book is about years of setting up to prevent the killing of Kennedy by a guy who traveled back in tome.
It was a very good book actually. First King book I'd read in ages.
 
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