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Is It Fair To Use Donald Trump’s Words (And Attitude) Against Him?

Ponca Dan

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Freedom begins between your ears. You will never be free.
We both agree that Biden’s administration has been an unmitigated disaster, a failure at every turn. You seem to think Donald Trump is going to right the ship and make America great. I wonder if you can explain what you think that means. What will America look like in your eyes when it is great? What will Trump do to accomplish your vision of a great America?
 
We both agree that Biden’s administration has been an unmitigated disaster, a failure at every turn. You seem to think Donald Trump is going to right the ship and make America great. I wonder if you can explain what you think that means. What will America look like in your eyes when it is great? What will Trump do to accomplish your vision of a great America?
 
We both agree that Biden’s administration has been an unmitigated disaster, a failure at every turn. You seem to think Donald Trump is going to right the ship and make America great. I wonder if you can explain what you think that means. What will America look like in your eyes when it is great? What will Trump do to accomplish your vision of a great America?

If I have to explain it to you, you would not understand. How about you describe to me what a "Great America" would look like through sane & intelligent perspective? What is your vision for America?
 
If I have to explain it to you, you would not understand. How about you describe to me what a "Great America" would look like through sane & intelligent perspective? What is your vision for America?
I see. You don’t want to (or can’t) explain your vision, you want me to tell you what your vision is (or should be).
 
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Among your lesser talents is comprehension. I asked for yours. I would like to believe you are some kind of savant, but I cannot find your area of superiority.
But why deflect? I asked for your vision and you’re shying away like you’re facing a rattlesnake. Why so afraid?
 
No, but I registered on my 18th birthday. Never got called up. But how is that relevant? Nowadays, you just sit on your fat ass in your cushy life and just bitch about how wrong everyone else is, while offering no solutions.

Again, what freedom have you lost, Dodge 2.0?
I would have thought in your patriotic fervor to show what a tough guy you would be to defend your country you would have volunteered and not needed to be dragged into service against your will. Because God knows our wonderful NeoCons have found places all over the world where we need to “defend” our country. But that’s okay, it was heroically brave of you to register for the draft. Your patriotism knows no limits!
 
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I would have thought in your patriotic fervor to show what a tough guy you would be to defend your country you would have volunteered and not needed to be dragged into service against your will. Because God knows our wonderful NeoCons have found places all over the world where we need to “defend” our country. But that’s okay, it was heroically brave of you to register for the draft. Your patriotism knows no limits!

So... again refuse to answer the question or engage in any real conversation, but take a min to insult a guy.

Congrats. You are everything you say you hate.

Which is no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention.

And Dan, the answer is that you have lost no freedoms because of the recent words President Trump spoke.

You did lose some freedom while Sleepy Joe and his woke markist mob ran the country into the ground, but you were too busy bitching about Israel and Trump to talk about that at the time.

Kinda telling now that Trump is president you circle back to domestic stuff.
 
So... again refuse to answer the question or engage in any real conversation, but take a min to insult a guy.

Congrats. You are everything you say you hate.

Which is no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention.

And Dan, the answer is that you have lost no freedoms because of the recent words President Trump spoke.

You did lose some freedom while Sleepy Joe and his woke markist mob ran the country into the ground, but you were too busy bitching about Israel and Trump to talk about that at the time.

Kinda telling now that Trump is president you circle back to domestic stuff.
Please forgive me for not answering the question. Tariffs are a way of forbidding a citizen from deciding with whom he wants to trade. Are you familiar with the writings of Fredric Bastiat? One of his essays, probably his most famous, is called *That Which Is Seen & That Which Is Not Seen.* I won’t state as a fact but I think he is the first, certainly one of the first, person to explain the existence of what today we call “unintended consequences.” In the essay he posits that government policies almost always succeed in doing that for which they are intended. That’s what you see, and that’s what politicians hang their hats on when they introduce new policies giving themselves more power to regulate and control society. “Look what we did for you,” they exclaim, “give up a little more of your independence and we can do even more!” Bastiat points out there are always unexpected consequences that are spread out, consequences that you don’t see and can’t trace back to the policy that caused them. Let’s take Trump’s tariffs he wants to force automakers to make their cars in the USA instead of Mexico. He thinks by slapping government tariffs (taxes) on imports it will raise the price of cars so much the auto makers will scurry back to the US desperate to avoid the tariffs (taxes), which will ensure lots of jobs for union auto workers. And he is almost certainly correct! It almost certainly will have that effect. And Trump and his fellow protectionists will ballyhoo their enormous success in saving auto worker jobs. That’s what you’ll see, and that’s what they’ll use to persuade you to accept giving up another little piece of your independence as you beg them to protect you from the next enemy they’ll tell you exists and they’re the only ones who can save you. But there’s a negative side to the policy that you might see but never realize it is connected to the tariff. Like the frog in the pot of water being brought to a boil you won’t see the subtle loss of your freedom as you fritter it away one tiny piece at a time.

Here you go: http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html
 
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Please forgive me for not answering the question. Tariffs are a way of forbidding a citizen from deciding with whom he wants to trade. Are you familiar with the writings of Fredric Bastiat? One of his essays, probably his most famous, is called *That Which Is Seen & That Which Is Not Seen.* I won’t state as a fact but I think he is the first, certainly one of the first, person to explain the existence of what today we call “unintended consequences.” In the essay he posits that government policies almost always succeed in doing that for which they are intended. That’s what you see, and that’s what politicians hang their hats on when they introduce new policies giving themselves more power to regulate and control society. “Look what we did for you,” they exclaim, “give up a little more of your independence and we can do even more!” Bastiat points out there are always unexpected consequences that are spread out, consequences that you don’t see and can’t trace back to the policy that caused them. Let’s take Trump’s tariffs he wants to force automakers to make their cars in the USA instead of Mexico. He thinks by slapping government tariffs (taxes) on imports it will raise the price of cars so much the auto makers will scurry back to the US desperate to avoid the tariffs (taxes), which will ensure lots of jobs for union auto workers. And he is almost certainly correct! It almost certainly will have that effect. And Trump and his fellow protectionists will ballyhoo their enormous success in saving auto worker jobs. That’s what you’ll see, and that’s what they’ll use to persuade you to accept giving up another little piece of your independence as you beg them to protect you from the next enemy they’ll tell you exists and they’re the only ones who can save you. But there’s a negative side to the policy that you might see but never realize it is connected to the tariff. Like the frog in the pot of water being brought to a boil you won’t see the subtle loss of your freedom as you fritter it away one tiny piece at a time.

Here you go: http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html
Unintended consequences = collateral damage. But it works for you though.
 
Unintended consequences = collateral damage. But it works for you though.
Yes. For example a person who lost his job because of a tariff would be an unintended consequence/collateral damage in the policy designed to save an auto worker’s job. We’d know about the saved job but not understand the lost job is tied to the same tariff. The auto worker might shrug with casual indifference toward the schmuck that lost his employment.
 
Further explaining Boudreaux’s point about trade and trade restrictions:


 
I would have thought in your patriotic fervor to show what a tough guy you would be to defend your country you would have volunteered and not needed to be dragged into service against your will. Because God knows our wonderful NeoCons have found places all over the world where we need to “defend” our country. But that’s okay, it was heroically brave of you to register for the draft. Your patriotism knows no limits!
My dad was an army vet. Draftee. Always steered me away from the military. Said his bloodline contributed enough.

Now, which freedoms have you lost, Dodge 2.0?
 
My dad was an army vet. Draftee. Always steered me away from the military. Said his bloodline contributed enough.

Now, which freedoms have you lost, Dodge 2.0?
I refer you to my answer above. It’s convenient that your dad took your place in the “defending the country.” It’s nice, I suppose, that it is acceptable to skip a generation after someone has served in their place. Nice and convenient, wouldn’t you say? In your mind does that let draft dodgers off the hook if their daddies served?
 
Good grief, @OUSOONER67, all that’s happening here is we disagree about something. I’ve said nothing hateful or disrespectful or insulting to you. I just disagree with your opinion.
Go back and read your post to SIL. Gaslighting.
Oh I don't have an issue with having differing opinions but that post to SIL is classic my_2pesos right there, hence my comment on it. 🚨
 
My post to SiL has nothing to do with you.
There, there.

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