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If you had $43,000,000...

wyomingosualum

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...you could build a gas station in Afghanistan.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-afghanistan-gas-station-boondoggle/75037032/

WASHINGTON — U.S. taxpayers footed the bill for a $43 million natural-gas filling station in Afghanistan, a boondoggle that should have cost $500,000 and has virtually no value to average Afghans, the government watchdog for reconstruction in Afghanistan announced Monday.

A Pentagon task force awarded a $3 million contract to build the station in Sheberghan, Afghanistan, but ended up spending $12 million in construction costs and $30 million in "overhead" between 2011 and 2014, the Special Inspector General for Afghan Reconstruction (SIGAR) found. Meanwhile, a similar gas station built in neighboring Pakistan cost $500,000.

"It's hard to imagine a more outrageous waste of money than building an alternative fuel station in a war-torn country that costs 8,000% more than it should, and is too dangerous for a watchdog to verify whether it is even operational," Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., said in a statement. "Perhaps equally outrageous however, is that the Pentagon has apparently shirked its responsibility to fully account for the taxpayer money that's been wasted — an unacceptable lack of transparency that I'll be thoroughly investigating."

The compressed-natural gas station was designed to show the viability of tapping the country's natural gas reserves. But the inspector general determined that Pentagon's Task Force for Stability and Business Operations failed to conduct a feasibility study before launching the project.

If they had, the inspector general noted in his report, the Pentagon would have found most Afghans have little use for it. The Pentagon's own contractor stated that converting a car to compressed natural gas costs $700 in Afghanistan. The average annual income there is $690.

In a letter to the inspector general, the Pentagon noted that it had shuttered the task force earlier this year and would try to find officials to answer questions. The task force had been given $800 million to help foster private investment in Afghanistan.

"As recently as October 13, 2015, SIGAR contacted (the Department of Defense) to speak to these unnamed employees, but DoD again failed to identify anyone," according to the inspector general's report.

McCaskill, in a letter to the Pentagon, demanded to know how the money was spent and whether the filling station is still open for business. She noted that the contractor responsible for keeping the pumps running failed to renew its operating license only six months after it opened.

Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., who, like McCaskill, sits on the Armed Services Committee, also demanded answers from the Pentagon.

"At a time of growing threats and constrained defense budgets, this kind of mismanagement is simply unacceptable, and I look forward to hearing from the Pentagon on what specific steps it will take to prevent such an egregious waste of tax dollars in the future," Ayotte said in a statement. "Our troops and the taxpayers deserve better."
 
And with all other "irregularities", etc. occurring during this administration including Hilldog's server, move along; there's nothing to see here.:rolleyes:
 
If they had found a way to power donkeys and goats with natural gas, this thing could have been huge.
 
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We should raise taxes more, the government clearly needs more of our money.
 
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Hey not to worry though, no way they can waste money on healthcare or taking care of the real hero's this country has, the veterans.

The fed needs to be eviserated, lousy incompetent bunch of dipshits.
 
A couple of senators asking for transparency and for someone to fully account for taxpayer money is hilarious. STFU and practice what you preach!
 
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I love how they always try to act like this is "mismanagement." You don't spend $43 million on a $500k project due to mismanagement.....that is outright fraud and theft. Curious how much of that money ended up in the pockets of Congressmen.....I am willing to bet a pretty fair percentage of it.
 
If the low information voters had a clue to things like this they might not be buying into the "hate the rich" mantra their party is shoveling.
 
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If the low information voters had a clue to things like this they might not be buying into the "increase the Pentagon budget by 20%" mantra their party is shoveling.
 
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If the low information voters had a clue to things like this they might not be buying into the "hate the rich" mantra their party is shoveling.

Those damned Democrats, always clamoring for more military spending.

WTF does this have to do with "hate the rich?"

TPOKE, why are you so concerned about people hating the rich? Can you give me some examples of democrats "shoveling" the mantra of hate the rich?
 
Those damned Democrats, always clamoring for more military spending.

WTF does this have to do with "hate the rich?"

TPOKE, why are you so concerned about people hating the rich? Can you give me some examples of democrats "shoveling" the mantra of hate the rich?
Sys,
(I love a strong, well funded, highly numbered and intimidating military)

First of all, it's a generalization that this country can misuse tax dollars with no repercussions. There's plenty of money to take care of a lot of domestic problems if we have the money for expenditures pointed out in the initial post. People need to wake up to that and quit looking for the rich to pay more when it's obvious it's not a revenue problem. LIVs are the biggest culprits by refusing to educate themselves and believing everything they hear. Which leads to the next point.
There's no secret the dems shovel the message that the mean rich Republicans don't care about the poor and middle class and they need to pay more so they'll have more. It's not a revenue problem, it's a spending problem. Our president is more concerned with who's flying on private jets, companies needing to pay $15 min wage, redistributing wealth...it appears we already have enough wealth in DC if any needs to be redistributed.
I really don't care who hates the rich, actually, I love most of the rich, because a lot of them worked and created jobs for millions of people to make a living. In the company I work for I'm very thankful the past president went out on limb, started and grew it to the point where it gave me and thousands of others the opportunity to make a great living.
 
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Politicians suck. It's why this country is on the position it's in.
I believe we saw a glimpse of things to come with the election results from yesterday. People are fed up with what the professional politicians have wrought. The liberals and politicians don't want to acknowledge it but there is a large groundswell against the establishment. The public is saying a non-politician can't do any worse.
 
I was thrilled the SF Police Chief got defeated. The new Governor of Kentucky is sort of a Trump clone---businessman with little to no political experience who self-funded part of his campaign. That's got the dems somewhat concerned about the staying power of Trump, Carson and Carly. It should have the GOP establishment equally concerned. And, legalizing marijuana lost in Ohio. Not because of it becoming legal but because they proposed having only 10 monopolies growing it and selling to the state. The crony capitalists like Nick Lachey and Oscar Robertson were part of the 10 select groups who stood to make millions.
 
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The new Lt. Gov. of Kentucky is a black woman. She and the new Governor are both aligned with the Tea Party. Of course, the MSM and GOP leadership have told us the Tea Party is dead. Guess not. The Governor is the father of 9 with 4 adopted---from Ethiopia. I doubt anyone will hear that from the MSM. The got over 50% of the vote out of Louisville which is very unusual for GOP types. The non-politician is alive and well this election cycle.
 
The new Lt. Gov. of Kentucky is a black woman. She and the new Governor are both aligned with the Tea Party. Of course, the MSM and GOP leadership have told us the Tea Party is dead. Guess not. The Governor is the father of 9 with 4 adopted---from Ethiopia. I doubt anyone will hear that from the MSM. The got over 50% of the vote out of Louisville which is very unusual for GOP types. The non-politician is alive and well this election cycle.

Don't forget about the "polls" which only missed this race by 14 pts (+5 dem pre-vote/+9 rep post-vote); I'm sure the media would never use polls to pimp the left's whores.:rolleyes:
 
Sys,

I really don't care who hates the rich, actually, I love most of the rich, because a lot of them worked and created jobs for millions of people to make a living. In the company I work for I'm very thankful the past president went out on limb, started and grew it to the point where it gave me and thousands of others the opportunity to make a great living.

Of course you do, just like you were taught, right? No mention of the middle class/consumer that actually enables "the rich" (did you just get a little tingle?) to generate revenue. Does your infatuation extend to them, or only the rich? Isn't the opportunity to make a great living created by the ultimate consumer/user of whatever goods and services your past president peddled? There are two sets of actors here, the person that provides the marketable service or thing, and the person that actually pays money for it. It never ceases to amaze how conservative values elevate the wealthy and never mention the actual consumers in that equation. Why do you love one so much and not the other? Values? Just easier to love whoever has money?

You kind of sound like a labrador retriever, loving whoever drops you some scraps on the floor. There's just a sycophant quality about conservative doctrine that pisses me off. It takes a special kind of chickenshit to actually admit an infatuation with the rich. You and Paris Hilton sort of think alike. I can't imagine a proud, independent man ever saying that.
 
Of course you do, just like you were taught, right? No mention of the middle class/consumer that actually enables "the rich" (did you just get a little tingle?) to generate revenue. Does your infatuation extend to them, or only the rich? Isn't the opportunity to make a great living created by the ultimate consumer/user of whatever goods and services your past president peddled? There are two sets of actors here, the person that provides the marketable service or thing, and the person that actually pays money for it. It never ceases to amaze how conservative values elevate the wealthy and never mention the actual consumers in that equation. Why do you love one so much and not the other? Values? Just easier to love whoever has money?

You kind of sound like a labrador retriever, loving whoever drops you some scraps on the floor. There's just a sycophant quality about conservative doctrine that pisses me off. It takes a special kind of chickenshit to actually admit an infatuation with the rich. You and Paris Hilton sort of think alike. I can't imagine a proud, independent man ever saying that.
You're favorite game must be Twister. You fit in well with your party. I knew once I responded you would come up with some contorted attacking response. You're an idiot.
 
You're favorite game must be Twister. You fit in well with your party. I knew once I responded you would come up with some contorted attacking response. You're an idiot.

I knew you'd have some half-baked sycophant response, too.

You and your rich-crush have a good day. Maybe some rich guy will let you carry his pissbucket and it'll be a GREAT day.
 
You kind of sound like a labrador retriever, loving whoever drops you some scraps on the floor. There's just a sycophant quality about conservative doctrine that pisses me off. It takes a special kind of chickenshit to actually admit an infatuation with the rich. You and Paris Hilton sort of think alike. I can't imagine a proud, independent man ever saying that.

You kind of sound like a pick pocket, hating whoever's wallet you can rob. There's just a sycophant quality about liberal doctrine that pisses me off. It takes a special kind of chickenshit to actually admit a hatred of the rich. You and Karl Marx sort of think alike. I can't imagine a proud, independent man ever saying that.
 
You kind of sound like a pick pocket, hating whoever's wallet you can rob. There's just a sycophant quality about liberal doctrine that pisses me off. It takes a special kind of chickenshit to actually admit a hatred of the rich. You and Karl Marx sort of think alike. I can't imagine a proud, independent man ever saying that.

First thing is you're not dealing with a man. You're dealing with a touchy feely chickenshit progressive. Do as I say not as I do mentality rules the day with this clown. Work on people's emotions is all they do with no real substance to anything they espouse. I don't think syssy has ever done anything in its life remotely similar to the shit shoveled on this board.
 
The good voters in Houston also made it clear that you go to the bathroom that corresponds to the way you are plumbed.
 
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You kind of sound like a pick pocket, hating whoever's wallet you can rob. There's just a sycophant quality about liberal doctrine that pisses me off. It takes a special kind of chickenshit to actually admit a hatred of the rich. You and Karl Marx sort of think alike. I can't imagine a proud, independent man ever saying that.

Now I hate the rich, lol.
 
I knew you'd have some half-baked sycophant response, too.

You and your rich-crush have a good day. Maybe some rich guy will let you carry his pissbucket and it'll be a GREAT day.
I have a lot of wealthy customers too, so where does that put me? BTW, I'm the one with the bucket.
 
School board elections, that's tough to take. All the Republicans have done since Obama has become President is take back a whole bunch of congressional districts somewhere over 100+, something like 14 senate seats, a dozen or more Governorships, and almost a 1000 state legislative seats.

But the damn Democrats are kicking the snot out of Republicans for Colorado school board seats!
 
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School board elections, that's tough to take. All the Republicans have done since Obama has become President is take back a whole bunch of congressional districts somewhere over 100+, something like 14 senate seats, a dozen or more Governorships, and almost a 1000 state legislative seats.

But the damn Democrats are kicking the snot out of Republicans for Colorado school board seats!
Well, when your party is losing control because of terrible policies and leadership, you've got to cling to something. A moral victory probably feels really good to the liberal guy that owns more guns than any conservative I know.
 
Well, when your party is losing control because of terrible policies and leadership, you've got to cling to something. A moral victory probably feels really good to the liberal guy that owns more guns than any conservative I know.

If you believe "ignored" owns more guns - blah, blah, blah - , have I got a deal for you! I have clear title to London Bridge on Lake Havasu, the bell rung by Quasimodo in the church tower, and the Bob Stoops traveling statue; it's your choice. Each is only $19.95 plus massive freakin' s&h; plus, if you act NOW, I'm sure "ignored" will donate many several guns to CAIR.
 
Obama got all twitterpated as his Muslim brothers won enough races to take over the Hamtramck, Michigan city council. Sharia Law is not far behind.
 
You really think changing the districts will save Democrats? It does nothing to help them in state wide elections and it will certainly affect both protected Democrat and Republican districts in urban areas but will do nothing to change the rural areas.
In 2012: Democratic candidates for congress received 48.8% of the vote Republicans received 47.6% and yet Democrats won 201 seats and the Republicans won 234.

That said I don' think any of the laws Sys references will have any effect until at least 2020.
 
In 2012: Democratic candidates for congress received 48.8% of the vote Republicans received 47.6% and yet Democrats won 201 seats and the Republicans won 234.

That said I don' think any of the laws Sys references will have any effect until at least 2020.
Democrats dominate in some high population urban settings. So if a Democrat gets 90% in a district and if a Republican gets 55% in a more diverse district the total number or percentage of votes doesn't matter. It's still one Dem and one Repub.
 
Democrats dominate in some high population urban settings. So if a Democrat gets 90% in a district and if a Republican gets 55% in a more diverse district the total number or percentage of votes doesn't matter. It's still one Dem and one Repub.
Congratulations, you just inadvertently stumbled upon the concept of gerrymandering.
 
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Funny, when the democrats had most of the governorships, their legislatures, the US House and Senate and the Presidency, they used gerrymandering routinely. Now, with the GOP taking significant gains from democrats using the same gerrymandering they yell foul.
 
Funny, when the democrats had most of the governorships, their legislatures, the US House and Senate and the Presidency, they used gerrymandering routinely. Now, with the GOP taking significant gains from democrats using the same gerrymandering they yell foul.
A good way to judge who is sincerely against gerrymandering and not just against their opponents using gerrymandering would be their support of anti-gerrymandering laws.
 
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