If California secedes there is going to be a civil war on their doorstep
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That movie, and that scene, never ceases to be funny as hell.
No way that movie could be made now with the PC nature of Hollywood. Another thing I'm looking forward to with Trump.
Speaking of movies that can't be made now, just watch any random John Hughes teen comedy from the 80's and imagine the shit storm it would get today.
I just watched 16 candles with the family the other night and realized how by todays's standards it is incredibly racist (sorry @long-duc-dong ), sexist, homophobic, date-rapey and non diversely cast.
SJW's would shit their pants if most 80's movies were released in their original form - thus, you get shit remakes like Ghostbusters.
Watched El Dorado last night and they cut out the scene where Caan dresses as the Chinese guy to sneak up on the guard by the door to the saloon.
Hey! Best movie in the history of movies.............ever!
And how about A Christmas Story?
Fa-ra-ra-ra-ra
Ra-ra-ra-ra
Fa-ra-ra-ra-ra
Ra-ra-ra-ra
You can't laugh at stuff like that anymore
Maybe YOU can't, but I just did after reading his post...haha
Parallel thought: Should California have the right/ability to secede? This came up regarding Texas following the Obama election and it was laughed off mostly. There are legal statutes (too lazy to look it all back up) that prevent seccession, but in theory, shouldn't there be a path (albeit difficult) in which a state could choose to leave the union?
Seems to me that secession is constitutional federally. Now a state's constitution may forbid the state or have no provision. But according to the 10th amendment since the federal constitution is silent, that power is reserved for the states or people. The rest is just logistics and negotiating their 'buy out'. Very similar to the BREXIT vote.
Hell yes California should be able to leave. That said for the most part it is the whinny gigantic liberal run cities that are wanting out (see county map from last election). The only thing I would like to see happen previous to their exit stage left, is the other states offer each illegal law breaker $5,000 USD (max $25,000 per family) and a plane ticket to one of the sanctuary cities in the state leaving. With the promise of chain gang time on the working end of a sling blade if they ever are caught back in the state. Kind of a reverse rodent in chief move to unload on the states that want to leave cuz their lil feelings are hurt by Trumps election.
IF California, or any state for that matter, secedes, there won't be a shot fired.
Nobody is seceding. I'm not even sure she's from California, I just liked the recoil.
If you have a high enough level of interest read "Is Davis a Traitor: Or was secession a Constitutional Right previous to the war" by Albert Taylor Bledsoe (attorney for Davis). It's never been refuted. Just one of those things nationalist ignored and hoped would just fall into the dustbin of time unnoticed.
Presidents also take an oath to uphold the constitution. But when you have a pen and a phone and you don't give a shit....
There would never be a war if that state left! No chance, no way and no how....incredibly dumb assertion and trying to relate the relativity of them leaving now to the civil war is silly.
I subscribe that most people in the middle of the country wished them and NY would unass the USA. Just make sure once they completely implode anyone moving out is vetted to not pollute the mindset of the next state they crawl to.
I subscribe that most people in the middle of the country wished them and NY would unass the USA. Just make sure once they completely implode anyone moving out is vetted to not pollute the mindset of the next state they crawl to.
Just because Lincoln set a new precedent does no require that precedent be followed. Lincoln should have followed the precedent set by Jefferson in his inaugural address when the northern states planned to secede upon his election. Jefferson wished them well and said we are all brothers, republicans & federalist.
"We have called by different names brethren of the same principle. We are all Republicans, we are all Federalists. If there be any among us who would wish to dissolve this Union or to change its republican form, let them stand undisturbed as monuments of the safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it."
~ Th. Jefferson
"We have called by different names brethren of the same principle. We are all Republicans, we are all Federalists. If there be any among us who would wish to dissolve this Union or to change its republican form, let them stand undisturbed as monuments of the safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it."
~ Th. Jefferson
California would be so easy to invade. Just tell them a poison was released that threatened a species of minnow and that Trump was coming to speak at local colleges and it would keep them occupied for a good while. Then roll in and declare victory. It isn't like they have the will or guns to defend themselves anyhow.
Do you understand the massive military and economic assets that would be co-opted by California secessionists? No President would just lie down and take that. It would mean war, and everyone knows that, which is why it would never happen.
This makes me laugh, since NY and Cali provide the vast majority of the Federal budget. Better be prepared for a MASSIVE tax increase if they left.
This makes me laugh because the left will not allow California to secede. They need the 55 electoral votes in presidential elections. California leaves and the democrat party might not get another president for a long time.
Uh, given the current cluster-fook status of the Dems, with no cankled/otherwise savior in sight, those votes are worth less than a roll of Northern!
Its 31%. And of which they don't get it back. It goes to backwaters like Oklahoma.
Think of all the "free" services to illegals and bums that would be gone too. I enthusiastically vote yes.
You have to understand how disgusted people are in California by Oklahoma as well. Many Californians are ex-Oklahoma going back to the Dust Bowl. They have Oklahoma ties and Oklahoma family but are utterly repulsed by the politics.
Oklahoma Education is abysmal and teacher pay is last in the nation. Yet the good residents of this sorry state could not be bothered by paying a penny sales tax to at least put a band aid on teacher pay and restore funding to OU and OSU.
Oklahoma Education is abysmal and teacher pay is last in the nation. Yet the good residents of this sorry state could not be bothered by paying a penny sales tax to at least put a band aid on teacher pay and restore funding to OU and OSU.
Without Cali and NY, Oklahoma and a great many southern states would be 3rd world. FACT.
It would increase the other 48 states revenue by $63 billion. Fact.
http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/federal_revenue_by_state.php?year=2010&chart=Z0&units=b&rank=t
It won't happen in my lifetime but Ayn Rand may have been on to something.
I love that we have 4 people now on record for the right to secede. Interesting.
Justice Scalia has an Answer for the odious Albert Taylor Bledsoe http://www.businessinsider.com/justice-scalias-views-on-secession-2012-11
