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That Trump's decision to push it in to these heathens, ending them, was a decision several orders of magnitude tougher than Obama's "decision" to take out Bin Laden.

That said, I expect @CowboyUp to have a full blown parade for our current Commander in Chief any minute now.
 
The big difference was that Bin Laden was a man without a country.......This was a high ranking member of the Iranian Government, so we have now taken on an entire country. There was a reason previous administrations declined to take this kind of action. There is no doubt this guy deserved to be killed, but the consequences could be more than we bargained for
 
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The big difference was that Bin Laden was a man without a country.......This was a high ranking member of the Iranian Government, so we have now taken on an entire country. There was a reason previous administrations declined to take this kind of action. There is no doubt this guy deserved to be killed, but the consequences could be more than we bargained for
So we just continue to allow him to kill Americans and plan attacks on US Embassies?

Also, it's almost as if your TDS has affected your memory and you chose to forget what Obama did to Qaddafi in Libya.

But that was different because NOT TRUMP.
 
That Trump's decision to push it in to these heathens, ending them, was a decision several orders of magnitude tougher than Obama's "decision" to take out Bin Laden.

That said, I expect @CowboyUp to have a full blown parade for our current Commander in Chief any minute now.

“Tougher” as in more difficult?

Doesn’t that mean the same as more controversial?
 
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Forgive COWBOYintheUK for omitting this. He was going to type it but forgot.
That has nothing to do with it, I have praised him in the past (for the strike Syria), as I said there was a reason past administrations have declined to take this action.........With the sanctions in place on Iran, their Government was under a lot of pressure from the citizens, now they are united against us. Our allies are backing off , not supporting this move. Contrary to what you might want to believe, short of using nuclear weapons, we do not have the capability to defeat Iran without the help of those allies , while maintaining vital security elsewhere . I am all for taking out terrorist, I will applaud any administration who does, but , most terrorist are not associated with any specific country.
 
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With the sanctions in place on Iran, their Government was under a lot of pressure from the citizens, now they are united against us.
The Iran citizens are united against the US? Yeah, no, that's not the case. Are you intentionally lying or just not informed?

Contrary to what you might want to believe, short of using nuclear weapons, we do not have the capability to defeat Iran without the help of those allies , while maintaining vital security elsewhere
Why does the US need to "defeat" Iran? I'm pretty sure the goal is to provide adequate deterrent to some specific behavior, not invade and overthrow the government.

most terrorist are not associated with any specific country.
Well, strangely enough, Qasem Soleimani was a terrorist associated with a country. That proved fatal for him. Wherefore but had Soleimani not been the head of a terrorist organization, he would probably still be alive.
 
That has nothing to do with it, I have praised him in the past (for the strike Syria), as I said there was a reason past administrations have declined to take this action.........With the sanctions in place on Iran, their Government was under a lot of pressure from the citizens, now they are united against us. Our allies are backing off , not supporting this move. Contrary to what you might want to believe, short of using nuclear weapons, we do not have the capability to defeat Iran without the help of those allies , while maintaining vital security elsewhere . I am all for taking out terrorist, I will applaud any administration who does, but , most terrorist are not associated with any specific country.

iranians are in no way shape or form
united against us

so just stop with the scare tactics
 
How do we spend 50 times more on defense than Iran yet can’t beat them in a war? Is our military the A&M of militaries? Serious question (not the A&M part obviously.)
 
The Iran citizens are united against the US? Yeah, no, that's not the case. Are you intentionally lying or just not informed?


Why does the US need to "defeat" Iran? I'm pretty sure the goal is to provide adequate deterrent to some specific behavior, not invade and overthrow the government.


Well, strangely enough, Qasem Soleimani was a terrorist associated with a country. That proved fatal for him. Wherefore but had Soleimani not been the head of a terrorist organization, he would probably still be alive.

funny

i was making the same points
and just put the brakes on

the TDS peeps live in fear and denial

1. these mullahs want to maintain power

2. they have been shown advancing their nuclear program and exporting shia militancy to iraq lebanon and syria is not gonna work

3. the mullahs know the US is not going to engage in a ground war we will simply lop
the head off the snake
 
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How do we spend 50 times more on defense than Iran yet can’t beat them in a war? Is our military the A&M of militaries? Serious question (not the A&M part obviously.)

it’s not about winning a war
we don’t have the infantry to hold the ground and administrate

these mullahs now know regime change
is on the table
 
How do we spend 50 times more on defense than Iran yet can’t beat them in a war? Is our military the A&M of militaries? Serious question (not the A&M part obviously.)
Because we have obligations around the world we have to defend, they have only their country...........We could sure hit them hard enough to make them stop, but we could not actually win a war in the normal sense.
 
iranians are in no way shape or form
united against us

so just stop with the scare tactics
Considering the protests against us are 100 times larger than their protests against their government a few weeks ago, I would say they are well on their way to become united.......
 
The Iran citizens are united against the US? Yeah, no, that's not the case. Are you intentionally lying or just not informed?


Why does the US need to "defeat" Iran? I'm pretty sure the goal is to provide adequate deterrent to some specific behavior, not invade and overthrow the government.


Well, strangely enough, Qasem Soleimani was a terrorist associated with a country. That proved fatal for him. Wherefore but had Soleimani not been the head of a terrorist organization, he would probably still be alive.
The alternative is an endless war, which is exactly what this administration says it will not engage in..........we hit them , they hit us, we hit them back....it will never end.......
The Iranians may not be totally united against us, I am sure there are some who are are not, but there are enough, and stuff like this just increases that number
 
The Iranians may not be totally united against us, I am sure there are some who are are not, but there are enough, and stuff like this just increases that number
So, now the Iranian people may not be totally united against us? What happened to "now they are united against us?"

Considering the protests against us are 100 times larger than their protests against their government a few weeks ago, I would say they are well on their way to become united.......
Are you aware of what happens when Iranians protest their own government? Iranians in Iran and around the world are celebrating Soleimani's death.

https://ncr-iran.org/en/news/iran-p...-the-globe-celebrate-qassem-soleimani-s-death
 
Considering the protests against us are 100 times larger than their protests against their government a few weeks ago, I would say they are well on their way to become united.......

considering one set of protestors risk being murdered for protesting

the other set protesters risk being murdered for not protesting

what in the sam hill is your point?
 
So you think more Iranians, in Iran, are celebrating his death than are protesting the US?
I don't have to "think" that. The information is out there. Turn off Rachel Maddow and CNN and do some reading. And you might keep in mind that Iranians aren't a free people. They can be killed by the regime for openly celebrating Soleimani's death. The Iranian government controls the internet and the media.

Maybe you should start by checking out this hashtag...

https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/TnxPOTUS4Soleimani?

Keep refreshing to get the latest. You won't have time to read them all.
 
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The alternative is an endless war, which is exactly what this administration says it will not engage in..........we hit them , they hit us, we hit them back....it will never end.......
The Iranians may not be totally united against us, I am sure there are some who are are not, but there are enough, and stuff like this just increases that number
this was not tit for tat

we killed their thug general who orchestrated all proxy initiatives in syria lebanon and iraq and ordered killing of iranian protestors

the message has been sent

khameni will be held personally responsible
and is next to go
 
That has nothing to do with it, I have praised him in the past (for the strike Syria), as I said there was a reason past administrations have declined to take this action.........With the sanctions in place on Iran, their Government was under a lot of pressure from the citizens, now they are united against us. Our allies are backing off , not supporting this move. Contrary to what you might want to believe, short of using nuclear weapons, we do not have the capability to defeat Iran without the help of those allies , while maintaining vital security elsewhere . I am all for taking out terrorist, I will applaud any administration who does, but , most terrorist are not associated with any specific country.

Their citizens are not “united against us.” 99% of them hate the government. This hasn’t changed that.
 
Protestors for the overthrow of the Iranian government will not come out until they are certain the US leadership is not going to leave them to die like the last administration. I don't even think that Trump will be able to give them that confidence again. It will be hard to override their survival instincts for at least another 10 years. Until you have enough young people who have forgotten that Obama (US) left them to die you will not see them on the streets again in any kind of numbers.

This was a step in the right direction to give those who want to change their government in Iran the belief that the next time they try they will not be left high and dry. It will take much more but it is a good step in the right direction to inspire change from within. They must believe that they can succeed before anything will happen.
 
Protestors for the overthrow of the Iranian government will not come out until they are certain the US leadership is not going to leave them to die like the last administration. I don't even think that Trump will be able to give them that confidence again. It will be hard to override their survival instincts for at least another 10 years. Until you have enough young people who have forgotten that Obama (US) left them to die you will not see them on the streets again in any kind of numbers.

This was a step in the right direction to give those who want to change their government in Iran the belief that the next time they try they will not be left

Obama’s silence during those protests was one of the most pathetic displays I’ve ever seen out of a president.
 
Obama’s silence during those protests was one of the most pathetic displays I’ve ever seen out of a president.

Silly. He’s made it a point to stay on the sidelines during Trumps tenure, and has done a good job of doing so, regardless of what Trump has done/not done. I think it is fine for you to think he should step in at this time, but your post seems to be a bit hyperbolic.
 
this was not tit for tat

we killed their thug general who orchestrated all proxy initiatives in syria lebanon and iraq and ordered killing of iranian protestors

the message has been sent

khameni will be held personally responsible
and is next to go

You really think we will take out Khameni?
 
Silly. He’s made it a point to stay on the sidelines during Trumps tenure, and has done a good job of doing so, regardless of what Trump has done/not done. I think it is fine for you to think he should step in at this time, but your post seems to be a bit hyperbolic.

Im talking about the “Green protests” during Obama’s time as president, not the protests that happened recently. You literally had protestors carrying signs in Tehran asking for Obama to make a statement on their behalf and all we got was silence out of Obama because he was secretly negotiating with the terrorist mullahs. A gutless coward he was.
 
Obama’s silence during those protests was one of the most pathetic displays I’ve ever seen out of a president.

We lost three family members during those protest. All three were arrested and never heard from again.
 
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Im talking about the “Green protests” during Obama’s time as president, not the protests that happened recently. You literally had protestors carrying signs in Tehran asking for Obama to make a statement on their behalf and all we got was silence out of Obama because he was secretly negotiating with the terrorist mullahs. A gutless coward he was.
Very true. The Iranian people were counting on support from Obama like he had shown to other Arab Spring movements but he left them high and dry in favor of kissing mullah ass to get his "signature" foreign policy achievement. Ironically, he ended up supporting the attempted Islamization of countries like Libya, Egypt, and Syria by supporting Islamic terrorist groups while he shunned the westernized Iranian people.
 
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