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Well yeah because if he cops to the Iowa offer being far and away the biggest, it really hurts the “Jesus and wrestling” brand he has. I realize that comes across as much more cynical than I mean it to, but it’s how I see it. I wouldn’t and won’t begrudge the kid for taking the biggest payday because ultimately he’s going to be a stud wherever he goes and will elevate the program, even though I’ll hate that it’s Iowa and not OSU. It’s just a fact that a lot of what he does is brand/image conscious (which is fine, especially in the NIL era), and saying “Oh yeah training opportunities were all roughly equal but Iowa is gonna pay me more than TNT are making” doesn’t fit that image and therefore he isn’t going to lean on that.

Again, don’t want that to sound cynical and I am not going to whine and complain that a kid takes the biggest payday. It is what it is.
 
Your comments could easily hurt the recruiting of future athletes. Parents read the forums. Not a good look being all in on a kid then once you feel it didn't go your way you call him dishonest. You seem have some connections to the program by the way you post so it's not like some random person said he's dishonest. And all this is happening with no one have facts all off of rumors.
You need to quit projecting negative light on typed words. You are completely glossing over the fact that I think they are very good people.

If you honestly think that the offers are the same, fine, leave it there. It is clear to me and okay for me to believe that Iowa is not the best place for him and for me to believe he believes his Wrestling career would be better at another spot. For him not to believe the same is odd to me. Therefor, the rumors of money have to be the variable in his decision by my use of common sense.

I don't make a habit of poormouthing anybody (mostly) that have a relationship with OSU and I am not poormouthing Bo. I am 100% stating what I ascertain as common sense that he is being told to create a narrative that the offers are the same. Not many of us are at the table with them and we in fact, do NOT know the specs.

Leave this spat here...the Bassett family is a class family. I just won't root for him in Black and yellow and I believe the adults (from Iowa) have told him how to make this look. I also believe, his offer could be distorted to be called a similar offer. At the end of the day, they are going to do what they feel is best for them. It just sucks that the ugly part of NCAA sports is getting so much airtime.
 
You need to quit projecting negative light on typed words. You are completely glossing over the fact that I think they are very good people.

If you honestly think that the offers are the same, fine, leave it there. It is clear to me and okay for me to believe that Iowa is not the best place for him and for me to believe he believes his Wrestling career would be better at another spot. For him not to believe the same is odd to me. Therefor, the rumors of money have to be the variable in his decision by my use of common sense.

I don't make a habit of poormouthing anybody (mostly) that have a relationship with OSU and I am not poormouthing Bo. I am 100% stating what I ascertain as common sense that he is being told to create a narrative that the offers are the same. Not many of us are at the table with them and we in fact, do NOT know the specs.

Leave this spat here...the Bassett family is a class family. I just won't root for him in Black and yellow and I believe the adults (from Iowa) have told him how to make this look. I also believe, his offer could be distorted to be called a similar offer. At the end of the day, they are going to do what they feel is best for them. It just sucks that the ugly part of NCAA sports is getting so much airtime.
I checked on the Iowa forum and many of their people are afraid that we hit the double bonanza which would be Ross and Bassett. I hope that they are right, and I hope Bo is thinking I want to be a big part of the Program that takes down the King.
 
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I checked on the Iowa forum and many of their people are afraid that we hit the double bonanza which would be Ross and Bassett. I hope that they are right, and I hope Bo is thinking I want to be a big part Program that takes down the King.
It’s Iowa for Bo. Everyone with a shred of credibility has already basically called it.

The double bonanza can still be Jax and Ross (I’ve always been higher on Jax anyway)
 
Well yeah because if he cops to the Iowa offer being far and away the biggest, it really hurts the “Jesus and wrestling” brand he has. I realize that comes across as much more cynical than I mean it to, but it’s how I see it. I wouldn’t and won’t begrudge the kid for taking the biggest payday because ultimately he’s going to be a stud wherever he goes and will elevate the program, even though I’ll hate that it’s Iowa and not OSU. It’s just a fact that a lot of what he does is brand/image conscious (which is fine, especially in the NIL era), and saying “Oh yeah training opportunities were all roughly equal but Iowa is gonna pay me more than TNT are making” doesn’t fit that image and therefore he isn’t going to lean on that.

Again, don’t want that to sound cynical and I am not going to whine and complain that a kid takes the biggest payday. It is what it is.
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It’s Iowa for Bo. Everyone with a shred of credibility has already basically called it.

The double bonanza can still be Jax and Ross (I’ve always been higher on Jax anyway)
I hope they are wrong, but I would rather him go to Iowa than Penn. St. Penn. St. is close to unbeatable now they don't need to hammer another nail into the coffin of anyone being able to even compete with them.
 
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I checked on the Iowa forum and many of their people are afraid that we hit the double bonanza which would be Ross and Bassett. I hope that they are right, and I hope Bo is thinking I want to be a big part of the Program that takes down the King.
That’s the irony of message boards. Everyone on here thinks he’s going to Iowa and everyone over there thinks he’s coming here lol
 
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Wyatt deal was done after DT was hired. He talks about DT calling him to recruit him on his Flo interview . He told him he was gonna take a few visits then decide. So his NIL deal was done when DT was the coach
Grasping at straws now!
Nobody on this board has claimed that we aren't paying our wrestlers. We are not paying stupid money for them. In my opinion, anything over a million dollars a year for any athlete qualifies as stupid money.
Maybe Ayala really gets pissed off this time and finds another program.
 
He said that Bo wasn't being honest about the numbers being close.
Maybe he's seen the contract which I highly doubt. You posted earlier about the deal including Melvin. If that's the case and the # is 5 million simple math says they each get 2.5 . If that's true did Bo really get 5 ?
 
just what it is in this day and age. Unless Iowa is going to ship him off to Kazakhstan to train 6 months a year, it’s a no brainer to go with the best financial offer.
I generally agree if there’s a material $$$ difference. If they are in the same ballpark, other considerations take higher priority.

For example, would I leave where I live (Austin, Tx), uproot my family, leave my social network, etc for NYC for a 30% raise - no. Would I leave for a 70% raise - maybe; would I leave for more - most likely.

For young athletes, they have less entanglements, of course, but the analysis still applies. We’ve already seen sad cases of truly greedy college athletes leaving for “better” deals totally screwing themselves. And unless NIL is better regulated, these “sad” stories will continue.
 
I hope they are wrong, but I would rather him go to Iowa than Penn. St. Penn. St. is close to unbeatable now they don't need to hammer another nail into the coffin of anyone being able to even compete with them.
In much the same vein, as a PSU fan, I’d rather he go to Iowa over the Cowboys because DT and his team represent a far bigger threat than the meatheads running Iowa.
 
Maybe he's seen the contract which I highly doubt. You posted earlier about the deal including Melvin. If that's the case and the # is 5 million simple math says they each get 2.5 . If that's true did Bo really get 5 ?
We found common ground! The $5mill number is laughable.

What is also concerning is can Melvin field offers in recruitment yet?
 
Maybe he's seen the contract which I highly doubt. You posted earlier about the deal including Melvin. If that's the case and the # is 5 million simple math says they each get 2.5 . If that's true did Bo really get 5 ?
100% agree and that caveat is how they’re getting by with saying it was close imo. They problem is that MM is along ways away from truly being part of that nil deal so while you may want to say it’s for the basset family it’s really 5 mill to Bo because he’s the only one they can make the deal with
 
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Because Cael & Co. run a tight-ass ship, while Iowa, on the other hand, not so much? Remember the mole hunt their staff and superfans went on a couple years back? Around the time of the Swafford-Kemerer controversy, I think.
For example, we don’t have Ira Lubert posting on our board like that gap-toothed jackass Bob Nicolls posts on Iowa’s. Dude can’t wait to brag about his deep pockets
 
Because Cael & Co. run a tight-ass ship, while Iowa, on the other hand, not so much? Remember the mole hunt their staff and superfans went on a couple years back? Around the time of the Swafford-Kemerer controversy, I think.
Remember Carter saying he's the highest paid wrestler? Issue is the wrestling world doesn't hate Penn at so they don't make up #s. Nobody knows what anyone is making it's all hearsay. And everyone thinking that it hurts Iowa saying they pay more is delusional
 
100% agree and that caveat is how they’re getting by with saying it was close imo. They problem is that MM is along ways away from truly being part of that nil deal so while you may want to say it’s for the basset family it’s really 5 mill to Bo because he’s the only one they can make the deal with
So semantics and narrative makes sense
 
Remember Carter saying he's the highest paid wrestler? Issue is the wrestling world doesn't hate Penn at so they don't make up #s. Nobody knows what anyone is making it's all hearsay. And everyone thinking that it hurts Iowa saying they pay more is delusional
That is the thing. It isn't bags of money at most places and I don't know that it is at Iowa, but it has been made out that it is...I truly don't know.

But, there is money there that the school (s) know nothing about. There are packages (car, house, money, etc.) being solicited to Wrestlers and those are the numbers that are talked about. Oh, a $50,000 truck that is on a school lease program...let's call it a $50k addition to the package.

By the way, plenty of people hate PSU. Iowa is just easier to hate.
 
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By the way, plenty of people hate PSU. Iowa is just easier to hate.
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I don’t know why some people feel Bo was being dishonest when claiming his NIL offers were comparable. It’s just good political word smithing.
You can reasonably compare any numbers.
The statement may be misleading or disingenuous, but it certainly is not dishonest.
He’s made his choice and that choice will play out how it plays out. No sense bashing anyone for it.
Do we think he would be better off somewhere other than Iowa? Most here would say yes. And more important, his last year of eligibility won’t be until 2031. Who knows what singlet he’ll be wearing then?
 
I don’t know why some people feel Bo was being dishonest when claiming his NIL offers were comparable. It’s just good political word smithing.
You can reasonably compare any numbers.
The statement may be misleading or disingenuous, but it certainly is not dishonest.
He’s made his choice and that choice will play out how it plays out. No sense bashing anyone for it.
Do we think he would be better off somewhere other than Iowa? Most here would say yes. And more important, his last year of eligibility won’t be until 2031. Who knows what singlet he’ll be wearing then?
Listen I hope it’s not coming off that I’m bashing Bo or the family. They are free to do as they please. The only think he’s done that can even remotely be criticized is say what he said on Flo yesterday. It was silly and I guess I don’t differentiate between misleading, being disingenuous and being dishonest.

They paid him for him and his brother or brothers at 625k/per and the deal can only be made for Bo. The other two won’t even be on campus for most of this deal and if Iowa is serious about getting MM they’ll be renegotiating at a new market rate by then anyway… they can say what they want but this is all for Bo with some placeholder good will thrown in.
 
I don’t know why some people feel Bo was being dishonest when claiming his NIL offers were comparable. It’s just good political word smithing.
You can reasonably compare any numbers.
The statement may be misleading or disingenuous, but it certainly is not dishonest.
He’s made his choice and that choice will play out how it plays out. No sense bashing anyone for it.
Do we think he would be better off somewhere other than Iowa? Most here would say yes. And more important, his last year of eligibility won’t be until 2031. Who knows what singlet he’ll be wearing then?
Yeah, word smithing is a better description. I certainly don't think he is a dishonest guy or a bad guy...quite the opposite.
 
100%! But like Willie said, in wrestling people want to deny the $$$. I’m telling you guys, the $ amount is ridiculous and yes Bo was asked to keep the money talk to a level where Iowa doesn’t get more heat for buying wrestlers.
That's not why. They want Bo keeping his mouth shut so Ayala, Arnold, Ferrari..etc.etc. don't get pissed because they aren't getting anything close to him.
 
I don’t know why some people feel Bo was being dishonest when claiming his NIL offers were comparable. It’s just good political word smithing.
You can reasonably compare any numbers.
The statement may be misleading or disingenuous, but it certainly is not dishonest.
Exactly and then we he said the numbers were not near what was being rumored - I saw a rumor out there for $10 million over 5 years. Y'all are putting your own blinders on thinking that meant it was any certain number he was talking about. Again doesn't make him dishonest. He's not the kind of guy that's going to say - yeah, I got the highest NIL pay deal ever for a wrestler, how do you like me now?

Kid is getting paid. his tuition (40k a year) is likely a part of any # being floated. Might even add in other bennies too like a car, but I think the people who are so certain its not a million a year should not be so certain. ANd if its not us, I too am glad its Iowa and I sure hope we pick up Jax. Also still have 6 other top 10 guys available, and 4 more between 10-20 for class of 2026.
 
I don’t know why some people feel Bo was being dishonest when claiming his NIL offers were comparable. It’s just good political word smithing.
You can reasonably compare any numbers.
The statement may be misleading or disingenuous, but it certainly is not dishonest.
He’s made his choice and that choice will play out how it plays out. No sense bashing anyone for it.
Do we think he would be better off somewhere other than Iowa? Most here would say yes. And more important, his last year of eligibility won’t be until 2031. Who knows what singlet he’ll be wearing then?

Bo lives 90 minutes from State College. It's possible that Penn State is offering less. But factoring in the additional travel costs for Bo and his family, the numbers are similar.
 
What's funny is that I'm glad he's going to Iowa rather than OSU. Iowa is this big and bad brand yet no one fears them.
Heck on the poll someone ran on the Penn State board I checked that I hope it's Iowa if not Penn State.

Iowa is the known commodity, I can quantify their (vast) limitations. Please let him to there if not State College.

Going to Okie State, after getting Ross, scares the daylights out of me.
 
If you spent enough time I have trolling Bob, you'd know that guy will overspend for anyone to be the big shot to help the Hawks compete with Penn State. It was always so fun to toy with him on their board because you could just tell how much he hated his Hawks weren't the top dog. Hell, he had to scrub alot of his posts because of how bad he carried himself and looked like a baby. He was told to because his name was going on the wall at the new facility. He'd deny it but it's truth...
 
I'm done posting on this subject. It's pointless talking #s when nobody knows and people throwing out #s say they don't really know. It's how things go now everyone makes up whatever they want . Hope everyone tunes in and watches Bo make his decision on FLO at 7pm ET ( that's when the dual starts).
 
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