With Iran shooting down one of our drones in international air space what would be an acceptable response to some on the board?
How Should We Respond?
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Saudi Arabia should try out those American planes and Oklahoma State University alumni pilots to give them the what for.
Be interesting to have all the intel, including what their political objectives are.
If Iran is intentionally trying to start a war, it will happen.
My preference is to avoid a war, if we enter a war with them it needs to be a war that they start, one that crosses a line that both the American and international community sees as one Iran clearly provoked.
Perhaps “appropriate responses” can be taken without causing an all out war.
Tough situation, glad we have Trump in office and not Hillary. I do believe Trump does not want a war, I just hope Iran does not really want one, they are slowly escalating tensions, so far the US has done nothing to escalate tensions.
If Iran is intentionally trying to start a war, it will happen.
My preference is to avoid a war, if we enter a war with them it needs to be a war that they start, one that crosses a line that both the American and international community sees as one Iran clearly provoked.
Perhaps “appropriate responses” can be taken without causing an all out war.
Tough situation, glad we have Trump in office and not Hillary. I do believe Trump does not want a war, I just hope Iran does not really want one, they are slowly escalating tensions, so far the US has done nothing to escalate tensions.
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Anyone still under the delusion that Iran was not behind the attacks on the ships?
It was a drone. Any response should not risk any lives. I'd say it would be fair to confiscate $123 million from the $400 million we owe them as restitution, but Barry gave them all of their money back plus "interest." Interestingly, the money Barry gave them through the Iran deal was used to develop the new Khordad air defense system that was used to shoot the drone down.
Barry gave them the missile that got our grievously expensive drone over international waters.
Isn't that special.
Hard to believe that asshats legacy lives on, and on, and on.
File a complaint with the UN Security council and request additional international sanctions to be placed on Iran. At a minimum, you'll get some clarity on who our real allies actually are. I'd also charge the U.N. for the cost of that drone as it was a fellow member state that destroyed it in declared international waters. We pay $27B (IIRC) per year to the UN, might as well get something for that money, even if its a Chihuahua attack dog at best.
Trump has really upped the sanctions and one theory is that Iran is reacting this way because of the sanctions, that they are working so well that many of Iran’s civilian population want those in power out. Iran’s population is really suffering from the sanctions already in place.
Theory is that those in power now only have 2 choices: Negotiate, or go to war to win and protect their power. Right now they do not want to negotiate.
The Iranian regime really doesn't have any option but to negotiate if it wants to remain in power. If they want to go to war it will be a short one.
Yes, I've lived through one Republican presidential administration transparently lying to get a war started, and legions of simpletons and cowards going along with it in the face of contrary evidence. I would like to see proof of causus belli before killing people.
Let me guess: You're ready to start killing people.
The US. Because the UN will probably want to thoroughly investigate the situation.
Mess with them under the table. Like.... lots of awful shit that nobody knows about so they'll stop.
And GTFO in my opinion. We're spending waaay to much $$ on defense. Who's the good guy we're protecting over there?
Am I the only one that is on the fence regarding why we're adversarial to Iran and not Saudi Arabia? hello? they just kidnapped and chopped up an american journalist.
I'm glad at least one of the liberals can be honest with their opinion.
The more I put the pieces of the puzzle together, Democrats might very well be behind convincing Iran to become more aggressive. We know John Kerry has been talking to Iran, we know Kerry is not acting alone, Kerry hates Trump and has a history of putting his beliefs before the well being of the country. The country is war weary after the failures of GWB and Obama so it wouldn't surprise me if Kerry convinced Iran to become more aggressive to harm Trump during election season.
Iran is behind much of the turmoil in the Middle East. Trump is not like other Presidents, he will not tie their hands with ridiculous rules of engagement. Besides the Iranian loving Democrats in Congress will never vote to go to war.
Should be a short investigation. Both sides claim Iran shot the drone down. Its just a matter as to where the drone was when the shooting occurred. And if we don't want the UN involved, we should take back our $27 Billion and build 4 walls.
I'd much rather we take by our $27 billion and build 4 walls, that start a war with Iran.
Completely agree. That's why we need to be using the UN for this stuff. Otherwise, we might as well pull out of the UN and spend those Billions elsewhere.
You remember when a Republican president claimed that genocide was occurring in Libya as a pretext to beginning the use of military force in Libya to overthrow the government? I know you love your fully obstructed partisan views, but it isn't just Republicans that get us into shit shows.
The UN is going to find out where that drone was and what happened to that tanker and it won't be what the people trying to start a war with Iran want.
Cyberstrike their networks. Whatever that means. Shut down their grid for a few days.
Question: If this same event occurred under the prior administration, would you view the reports with the same level of skepticism as you are representing here?
Not the exact same level, because the last administration didn't have a Pompeo or Bolton. I was skeptical of the Syria and Libya shit though.
Trump needs to continue to do what he was doing yesterday, reel in the necons and hotheads in his administration who are trying to box him into a corner on Iran. I would even consider firing them immediately, but of course, I wouldn't have allowed them in the administration to begin with.
We don't need any military response. We need to move towards stronger diplomatic relations with Iran, try to salvage the JCPA (before it is too late, which it is about to be), and stop the saber-rattling.
I know this isn't going to be popular with the "Trump does no wrong crowd" on here, but Trump only has himself to blame for the mess he is slowly getting himself (and our country) into with Iran. In his haste to be "different" from Obama on Iran, he has listened to the wrong people. I think he is now uncomfortable with what is occurring, but he also doesn't want to look "soft." The neocons have him playing their game right now.
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Yes, appeasing the Iranian regime with sanctions relief so they can fund advanced centrifuge R&D and production and purchase loads of military hardware sounds like a great plan. Obama sent idiots to negotiate with the czar of Iran's nuclear program and signed a shitty deal that gave Iran everything and the US nothing just so he could say he got a deal done. Don't take my word for it. Ben Rhodes spilled the beans.
I dont recall a bunch of lefty skepticism on this board in regards to Arab Spring a couple years back, but I'll take you for your word. I do appreciate the reasonable answer.
