You have no clue what liberals advocate. You’re so thoroughly wrapped up in establishment Democrat talking points you wouldn't recognize legitimate liberal thought if it pinched you on the cheek.
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Are you stating that major Democratic players have not used the terms: "Free Healthcare" or "Free College"? Because if they have, then my statement stands as accurate and you can give this post your douche emoji to show your lack of a rebuttal.
"They" didn't make me believe and repeat anything.
My beliefs are my own.
For once, stop projecting and stop repeating lame right-wing talking points.
I know, I know, the truth hurts. It’s painful to find out your ruse in which you pretend to be something you’re not gets discovered for all to see. On the other hand maybe knowing the spotlight of truth is pointed directly at you might give you reason to look inward and discover you’ve been a fraud all this time. Maybe it’s a good tine for you to fess up and admit you have no clue what real progressive leftism is. Look at your mentor, @davidallen. I don’t think he’s ever once claimed to be a progressive. For that matter I can’t recall him ever claiming to be anything at all. He knows we know he’s a party apparatchik, and he’s good with that.
So which one is it? Liberalism or progressive leftism? Because the post from you that I responded to earlier said this:
Now, you have changed to progressive leftism. Do you even know the difference?
Were you claiming in your first post that the establishment of the Democratic Party, such as President Biden, aren't liberals? Because if you were, you are calling out every other right-winger on this board as being wrong every time they refer to Biden and Democrats like him as liberals. Do they also not know what a modern day liberals is?
See how you are just rambling nonsense? Tying yourself in knots, over and over again.
Yes, David has never claimed to be a progressive. I don't always agree with David and I'm sure he doesn't always agree with me.
Have you ever seen me call David a right-winger though?
Ah, see. You walked right into another one lol.
You seem to really be confused right now. Maybe it is your bedtime.
Yawn.
Tell me you don't know how else to respond without telling me exactly that!🤣🤣
Well, I have to admit trying to keep up with your resounding occasional delusional stupidity is really confusing.
The reason I know you have no clue what encompasses authentic liberal thought - or even much of progressive thought for that matter - is because liberal thought is based on voluntary social cooperation, keeping government interference at a minimum. Establishment Democrat thought, on the other hand, has abandoned liberal thought in preference of authoritarian, top-down mandated requirements with state sanctioned threats made against any dissenter. You, my good man, have no idea what liberal thought consists of you are so bought into the authoritarianism that today defines the Democrat Party.
Sure they are. Does "Don't Say Gay" ring a bell for you? You went right along with all the other wackos repeating that lie.
So what are YOU advocating for? And why do the recent SCOTUS decision bother you.
1) Why do you think it is a good policy to choose someone for college admission on the basis of their skin color?
2) Would you be upset if Biden released an EO for my_2cents and others be obligated to pay for CableOk’s student loans. Knowing that CableOk took out the loans himself, received the advantage of the loans to create a career, but didn’t pay the loan back. Why are you okay with paying my loans?
Joe doesn't promise anything. Incompetent fool is in the clouds. Might buy a vote or two though. His mo.
So you are now trying to blame me for your own confusion and ramblings.🤣🤣
lol
What do you mean by "authentic"? Are you now trying to claim I'm not a certain "type" of liberal?
Maybe just choose once and for all what you don't think I am and make that claim, instead of consistently shifting the goal posts. Can you do this?
Progressive thought has never advocating keeping government interference at a minimum. Indeed, progressive thought has always believed a government of and by the people should be used to accomplish some of its goals.
Modern day liberalism is similar but not often to the degree that progressivism is. Even historical liberalism was not opposed to government intervention in some cases.
When President John F. Kennedy federalized the Alabama National Guard to ensure that Vivian Malone and James Hood could enter into the University of Alabama, was JFK abandoning liberal thought in preference of authoritarian, top-down mandated requirements with state sanctioned threats made against any dissenter?
When President John F. Kennedy did not back down from Governor George Wallace's threats and forced Governor Wallace to back down from his desire to disobey federal law, was JFK abandoning liberal thought in preference of authoritarian, top-down mandated requirements with state sanctioned threats made against any dissenter?
Was this an example of establishment Democratic thought?
Nope, doesn't ring a bell at all, as you are trying to use it.
Don't Say Gay isn't a lie. You just don't like it being framed that way. Sorry, you are the one backing hate and discrimination, not me.
I believe skin color and the obstacles that one had to overcome because of their skin color should be considered as part of the admission process, just as other aspects of a person's background should be considered. I believe that racial minorities should be given an even footing with white Americans as it relates to college admissions.
I don't believe skin color should be the sole deciding factor, but of course, that isn't what affirmative action does. That is a lie and if you believe it, you have been misled.
I would have no problem with this and I would celebrate the fact that I was able to help you obtain a college degree without incurring any debt. I would congratulate you and wish you the best.
And why? Because I believe in education and I believe all Americans have a right to education. I support universal access to education.
I'm not selfish and I don't care only about myself. I realize we are all in the same boat and what is good for one is good for all.
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See how to answer direct questions? Remember that next time I ask you a question and you proceed to dodge and deflect.
You just don't get enough credit. Could you imagine a court of kenjante's?
Whatcha talking about Willis? My post was succinct. I said liberals equate "paid for by taxpayers" to "Free". But your avoidance of an actual rebuttal is telling.
When progressives talk of taxpayer funded their goal is wealth redistribution. In their mind it is not fair people have work hard, sacrificed, made the right decisions and planned for thier future while others have done little if any of the aforementioned.
People even our friends used to ask me why in the hell I was working 80 to 100 hour weeks. They would say I was crazy and there was no way they would do that. After ten years of being semi retired I ask them why they are still working and putting up with the BS they do?
But you don't mean racial minorities. You mean disadvantaged racial minorities. The ironic part of the whole affirmative action debate is that the party most damaged by it aren't whites, but rather Asian Americans, who are also a racial minority.
So why just school loans? Why not mortgages? Why not car loans? Those also provide economic advantages for their recepients. And if I (the taxpayer) am expected to pay for your school loan, do I get a say in how you spend it? Can I force you to study STEM (something we need more of), rather than "Aggrieved minority relations of the 17th century"? I mean, I am footing the bill, right? And what are the performance obligation? When I paid for my daughter's time at OSU and North Texas, I expected her to have all As and Bs. She knew it. Why am I paying off debt for someone who went to a school to study basket-weaving then flunked out after two years of frat parties and drug use?
When our daughter failed to carry satisfactory grades, (dropped most of her classes) we refused to fund her college tuition or pay for her room and board. She was on her own. Once she figured it out she went back to college, paid for it herself and graduated without a single penny of student loan debt. I don't say this to brag, I say this to say sometimes it takes a swift kick of realty in the ass.
So now we're back to a slow 10? I was growing accustomed to a slow 12.
I listened to every Biden word in Democrat debates. His 2 campaign rallies drew dozens, many wearing MAGA hats and jeering.
Biden promised higher crime and economic stagnation. Today we see record consumer credit card debt, record low savings and war zones in such places as Seattle, Minneapolis, Kenosha and snowballing crime in Chicago and NYC. Record homeless in sanctuary cities such as Gay Bay. Bank deliquencies grow.
Mark Zuckerberg spent $400 million on the 2020 election mostly on stuffed drop boxes in I believe 7 states. We all know the book and documentary film I recommend on this very nightmare.
Nah, the Court Lefties hate, harass at their homes and want to stack when they don't do what you want. 🤣
In other words you can’t explain what liberals advocate because you have no idea what a liberal is and no idea what a liberal believes. Life on this board would be so much easier for you if you’d just admit you’re neither a progressive nor a liberal, you’re a puppet that mouths what you’re told to say by your authoritarian establishment Democrat Party bosses. So tell us what an authoritarian establishment Democrat advocates and quit with the pretension that you have any idea what liberalism is.
I didn’t, but somebody apparently did.
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Son-in-law pays Elon $110 for slow internet at his Lake Whitney ranch. Of course Elon's internet is far superior to available ranch competitors. Kids can watch YouTube TV okay. They're YouTube TV subscribers in town and can take YouTube TV with Waco locals to the ranch. With one of the two cable companies locals are not available at the ranch.
Waco Charter Spectrum app is available at the ranch minus locals. Son-in-law's Astound internet cable has no good app so he must use YouTube TV. Astound requires a set top box for video.
When kids had DirecTV at the ranch they had DFW locals.
Waco Charter Spectrum app is available at the ranch minus locals. Son-in-law's Astound internet cable has no good app so he must use YouTube TV. Astound requires a set top box for video.
When kids had DirecTV at the ranch they had DFW locals.
He is so wrapped in establishment he understands Biden when he says "blubbbluberblubblub".
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