Govt officials and employees can’t be fired easily. Is that correct?

[NZ Poke]

Imagine getting into these federal government jobs, and knowing you could never get fired.

What would that do to a person’s brain and mental makeup? (Never being held accountable for your decisions and actions, like a king or lord in past centuries — but also anonymous and untouchable)

This concept (getting “tenure” in taxpayer-funded jobs) is as terrible for the government (and taxpayers), as it is for universities. Probably worse actually.

These **unelected** high-ranking govt employees are absolutely nuts, completely removed and detached from society. They literally view the taxpayers as their “subjects.”


If you haven’t this new story below on the recently unmasked investigators (similar roles to Peter Strzok and Lisa Page) — holy sh*t — you have to read it.

Multiple times — there’s a lot of information.

A visual picture is beginning to emerge of these weird deep state people — plus their hundreds of thousands of text messages revealing how they think and operate.

America wasn't supposed to have a Stasi.

 

[CowboyJD]

“Never get fired” is rank inaccurate hyperbole.

Many federal and state employees are not merit protected and are at will employees.

Many federal and state employees are merit protected and cannot be fired without just cause defined by rule and statute. Merit protection isn’t the same thing as tenure. It’s a protection from being let go after dedicating years of your career to public service because the new guy wants to give jobs to al, his political cronies.

I have lots of experience and knowledge dealing with these issues and laws. You have.....none...I anticipate.

So, to quote “My Cousin Vinny”....”Everything that guy just said is bull@#$&.”

 

[Rdcldad]

So, to quote “My Cousin Vinny”....”Everything that guy just said is bull@#$&.”

and more hyperbole

peter strzok was not fired easily
and employed well past his due date

 

[NZ Poke]

@ JD

Correct — this isn’t my issue, I’m not well-informed on it, and I’m sure you can school me.

By all means, feel free to educate me on things. I’m interested in learning, or reading. I did ask a question in thread title.


What I do know, by reading text messages from these various government investigators — Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, the new lady above, and the “Viva Le Resistance” guy — is they all have MAJOR contempt for taxpayers who fund their agencies.


Also, unelected officials in the FBJ and DOJ have been stonewalling congress on requested documents for many months. Is that allowed?

 

[CowboyJD]

and more hyperbole

peter strzok was not fired easily
and employed well past his due date

Sure he was.

He was walked out the door the day they wanted him gone.

 

[CowboyJD]

@ JD

Correct — this isn’t my issue, I’m not well-informed on it, and I’m sure you can school me.

By all means, feel free to educate me on things. I’m interested in learning, or reading. I did ask a question in thread title.


What I do know, by reading text messages from these various government investigators — Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, the new lady above, and the “Viva Le Resistance” guy — is they all have MAJOR contempt for taxpayers who fund their agencies.


Also, unelected officials in the FBJ and DOJ have been stonewalling congress on requested documents for many months. Is that allowed?

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If it isn’t your issue, why did you spend 4-5 paragraphs ranting about it?

Title your thread with it?

You’re not interested in learning anything from me. I’ve been trying to teach you the benefit of thinking and reasoning for yourself instead of cutting and pasting for ages. You whine that I’m trying to discredit you.

 

[DrunkenViking]

Sure he was.

He was walked out the door the day they wanted him gone.

We don’t know if he was actually fired or just put on administrative leave and escorted off premises

 

[CowboyJD]

We don’t know if he was actually fired or just put on administrative leave and escorted off premises

Either one of those, he’s not working.

 

[imprimis]

In most cases once a federal employee gets past their 6 month probation period it's difficult to fire them for the reasons JD stated. If the screw up they can be fired but, in most instances, it takes a long time unless whatever they did was egregious. Don't know about state employees.

 

[imprimis]

Either one of those, he’s not working.

Don't think he was fired as he is still being paid.

 

[NZ Poke]

This high-ranking lady in the Hillary email investigation (who apparently doesn’t like shampoo):

These are some of her texts — she worked on an extremely high ranking case (Hillary’s email) for the nation’s premier law enforcement agency.

And here’s the Viva Le Resistance guy — who apparently also worked for Mueller.

These people write like 20 year old buzzfeed employees.

JD — it’s going to take some effort to persuade me they are in their high-ranking positions for reasons other than ideology.