Clinton,Yeah, probably best for you take the exit. You've already flamed out.
A f*cking legend in his own mind! You’re delusional
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Clinton,Yeah, probably best for you take the exit. You've already flamed out.
You bring this up frequently. What did Hillary get in return for winning the popular vote?Last time I checked, Clinton won more of the popular vote at 55.2%. 3 million plus more votes.
Are you ok?Addressing your answer. I can't help that it was stupid.
You bring this up frequently. What did Hillary get in return for winning the popular vote?
Yeah, and how'd that work out? Is Hillary the Vice President for coming in second in the EC? Surely she got something for coming in second. 2cents bragging rights, maybe? I'll bet that trophy is impressive. Red Lobster sign in gold paint signed by her #1 fan?She got the nomination.
Yeah, and how'd that work out?
Not a creative thinker? How else might the popular vote prevail?2/3 of the states would have to vote yes for Pocohontas' Electoral plan. I just don't see Arkansas and West Virginia giving up their decision making to Gay Bay, L A, Chicago, Boston and NYC.
Is Pocohontas as stupid as she tries to convince us or does she believe we're as stupid as AOC, Maxine, Sheila, Hank and you know who?
LOL... What a difference 4 years make: https://legiscan.com/OK/text/HB1686/id/1085592/Oklahoma-2015-HB1686-Introduced.pdfBut that doesn’t get rid of the electoral college. It just changes the way some states choose to select their electors. I’m okay with that if that’s what they want to do.
I think it’s dumb and would look to see if Oklahoma would like to leave the union if it ever happens.
Thalidomide?You're obviously a victim of our failing public education system.
And no. I'm not even going to attempt an explanation. Getting through to you is completely beyond my reach.
What are Lee and the rest of the Okla Republicans thinking?United STATES of America - it's right there in the name. EC is the ultimate states rights issue. A serious attempt to remove it would be the end of the United part.
What are Lee and the rest of the Okla Republicans thinking?
Are you ok?
You’re slow but keep pushing this stupid idea. What’s funny’s Trump would win the popular vote if it made him president, but he’s smarter than you fatty, so he won the electoral college. Time to move on. President for another four years, and you can’t do shit about itNot a creative thinker? How else might the popular vote prevail?
Yeah, and how'd that work out? Is Hillary the Vice President for coming in second in the EC? Surely she got something for coming in second. 2cents bragging rights, maybe? I'll bet that trophy is impressive. Red Lobster sign in gold paint signed by her #1 fan?
You bring this up frequently. What did Hillary get in return for winning the popular vote?
Also, how do voter ID laws oppress/suppress/disenfranchise people of color? Still waiting on an answer for that one.
You'll have to forgive dave. He struggles.Medic007?
You should see a doctor if your delusion that slave states would have preferred a president elected by popular vote lasts more than 4 hours.
Alexander Hamilton was a slave state? Who knew?You should see a doctor if your delusion that slave states would have preferred a president elected by popular vote lasts more than 4 hours.
You should see a doctor if your delusion that slave states would have preferred a president elected by popular vote lasts more than 4 hours.
You'll have to forgive dave. He struggles.
Thalidomide is an immunimodulatry drug that was initially used for anxiety, as a sleeping pill, and for morning sickness in Europe. It caused about 10,000 babies to be born with birth defects in the form of stunted limb growth. The FDA refused to approve it in the US but it still made its way into a very brief use in the US under the guise of being an experimental drug. Only a handful of babies in the US were born with birth defects.
With that history lesson, I think dave is suggesting that you were born in Europe and have stunted limbs.
That's on the list of differentials. Can't say for sure without knowing what exactly he was going for in that post.So you're suggesting incoherence, which is common with the left?
Delusion?
In 1860, Abraham Lincoln received less than 40% of the popular vote (the rest was split between three other candidates), but thankfully won enough electors in the Electoral College to win the presidency, while also the first president to win without carrying a single slave state.
The slave owning Democrats in the South backed Breckinridge, who had earlier tried to get Kansas admitted into the Union as a slave state and after the election, fled south to join the Rebel Army and later became the secretary of war for the Confederates. After the fighting was over and the south admitted defeat, he tried to help Jefferson Davis escape, then ran away and lived overseas for a few years until President Johnson issued a blanket pardon for all of the slave owning idiots that had caused the war in the first place.
The racist Democrats in the North supported Douglas, who believed in states’ rights - namely that states should have the right to decide that rich people could own and treat other people like farm machinery and the rest of the country and the federal government should just stay out their slave owning business.
Now you can't even manage to distinguish individuals from states please pop an aspirin and dial 911Alexander Hamilton was a slave state? Who knew?
That's terrible medical advice, Docter pilt.Now you can't even manage to distinguish individuals from states please pop an aspirin and dial 911
votes cast in Lincoln states: 3,159,385In 1860, Abraham Lincoln received less than 40% of the popular vote (the rest was split between three other candidates), but thankfully won enough electors in the Electoral College to win the presidency, while also the first president to win without carrying a single slave state.
votes cast in Lincoln states: 3,159,385
votes cast in Breckinridge states: 652,230
Stephen Douglas would have waltzed to victory and continued the northern policy of slowly strangling slavery in the United states if the abolitionists didn't form the Republican party.The 1,380,202 votes cast by racist northern Democrats (who were okay with slavery, just not succession) and the 590,901 votes cast by racist democrats in Border States who also were okay with slavery but even more inclined against succession) have to factor in as well.
Basically, if the Democrat Party had managed to stick together instead of letting the kooky successionist crazies run off and splinter the party, they would have produced a candidate that would have soundly thumped Lincoln in the popular vote - the three non-Republican candidates gathered 60.2% combined - and they wouls have probably held on to their precious slavery for another decade or more.
Instead, that “Southern Slaveowner” ran electoral college elected Lincoln to the presidency (180 to 123).
For such a smart dude, you sure struggle some times.So you're suggesting incoherence, which is common with the left?
Stephen Douglas would have waltzed to victory and continued the northern policy of slowly strangling slavery in the United states if the abolitionists didn't form the Republican party.
Absolutely, but there is a reason the Democratic party split over Kansas and it's because popular sovereignity was an existential threat to slavery in the US.“Slowly strangling slavery... if the abolitionists didn’t form the Republican Party.”
Hey, so the Democrat strategy of claiming to help people while giving two shits about them because keeping power is more important than people isn’t a recent thing.
Who knew.
That aside, more revisionist history.
The Democrat Party prior to the 1860 split was mostly concerned with making sure that more states in the west did not enter the union as slave states - the Oklahoma Panhandle was lopped off Texas in order to keep Texas “south” of the Missouri Compromise line so that it could enter the union with their slavery intact. Ending slavery wasn’t a Democrat party goal and the states in the north that ended it did so begrudgingly. So much of the party was aligned to the southern way of thinking that a lot of the laws banning slavery were open ended and the phrase “eventual abolition” was a real thing.
They just didn’t care.
Douglas cared even less.
His view was that slavery was a state’s matter and Congress didn’t have the right to regulate it. He spoke out against religious leaders that rightfully claimed that slavery was an affront to our laws and god.
He didn’t care about people, just retaining power.
Absolutely, but there is a reason the Democratic party split over Kansas and it's because popular sovereignity was an existential threat to slavery in the US.