Even the House is complicit.

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

May 17 at 5:56 PM
KIEV, Ukraine — A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress — House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy — made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016 exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.

Before the conversation, McCarthy and Ryan had emerged from separate talks at the U.S. Capitol with Ukrainian Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman, who had described a Kremlin tactic of financing populist politicians to undercut Eastern European democratic institutions.

[URL='https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html?utm_term=.951c9e32ae2b']News had just broken the day before in The Washington Post that Russian government hackers had penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee, prompting McCarthy to shift the conversation from Russian meddling in Europe to events closer to home.

Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy’s comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: “Swear to God.”

Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: “No leaks...This is how we know we’re a real family here.”

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[HighStickHarry]

"Swear to god" can only be read in the voice of donnie baker.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

"Swear to god" can only be read in the voice of donnie baker.

I don't know what has me more giddy, the public outing of what total, hypocritical, traitorous sacks of shit that our country's blossom of conservative leadership is... or the discovery of donnie baker. Thank you.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

May 17 at 5:56 PM
KIEV, Ukraine — A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress — House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy — made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016 exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.

Before the conversation, McCarthy and Ryan had emerged from separate talks at the U.S. Capitol with Ukrainian Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman, who had described a Kremlin tactic of financing populist politicians to undercut Eastern European democratic institutions.

News had just broken the day before in The Washington Post that Russian government hackers had penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee, prompting McCarthy to shift the conversation from Russian meddling in Europe to events closer to home.

Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy’s comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: “Swear to God.”

Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: “No leaks...This is how we know we’re a real family here.”

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Wow!!! Man!!!

 

[SoonerRedYukon101]

Unbelievable!!! Would have never predicted that!!

 

[HighStickHarry]

I don't know what has me more giddy, the public outing of what total, hypocritical, traitorous sacks of shit that our country's blossom of conservative leadership is... or the discovery of donnie baker. Thank you.

I know how you people like your stereotypes to be reinforced. Unless it's Muslims, blacks, women, Jews (depending on their context to muslims of course). So gorge yourself on some redneck white guy videos. They are funny as hell.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

I know how you people like your stereotypes to be reinforced. Unless it's Muslims, blacks, women, Jews (depending on their context to museums of course). So gorge yourself on some redneck white guy videos. They are funny as hell.

Donny's my people, you little shit.

 

[HighStickHarry]

Donny's my people, you little shit.

So angry. You must be white.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

So angry. You must be white.

What would a thread be without you playing the race card?

 

[HighStickHarry]

What would a thread be without you playing the race card?

I just laid down another one for you to find as well cracker.

 

[Headhunter]

Total fake news Wash Post won't release audio because the entire conversation was a joke and everyone in the room was laughing the entire time.

This is getting more pathetic on the part of the destroy Trump by any means necessary crowd by the minute.

 

[Been Jammin]

He's making it pretty easy on them.

 

[Colorado_Poke]

While possible, this one seems a little more far-fetched to me.

 

[CowboyJD]

Total fake news Wash Post won't release audio because the entire conversation was a joke and everyone in the room was laughing the entire time.

This is getting more pathetic on the part of the destroy Trump by any means necessary crowd by the minute.

Curious.

If there is no audio, how do you know everyone in the room was laughing the entire time?

 

[Headhunter]

Total fake news Wash Post won't release audio because the entire conversation was a joke and everyone in the room was laughing the entire time.

This is getting more pathetic on the part of the destroy Trump by any means necessary crowd by the minute.

Curious.

If there is no audio, how do you know everyone in the room was laughing the entire time?

I said the Wash Post won't release the audio. They've released a transcript of the recording.

There is an audio and it would totally destroy the tone of the article and probably give everyone a good idea who recorded it.

It is curious to me why if you are willing to release a word for word transcript you would refuse to release the audio. They'll claim it's to protect a source but I say it's because people who where there tell a much different story than what they want us to believe.

FAKE NEWS.

 

[CowboyJD]

I said the Wash Post won't release the audio. They've released a transcript of the recording.

There is an audio and it would totally destroy the tone of the article and probably give everyone a good idea who recorded it.

It is curious to me why if you are willing to release a word for word transcript you would refuse to release the audio. They'll claim it's to protect a source but I say it's because people who were there tell a much different story than what they want us to believe.

FAKE NEWS.

You also claimed a WHY they won't release it.....

"because the entire conversation was a joke and everyone in the room was laughing the entire time."

And I asked how you know that is WHY.

And you still haven't answered that question.

 

[Headhunter]

The comments are so over the top only a liberal idiot or someone with an agenda would think they were serious. People there say it was all in jest.

They can release the audio and prove us Trump rubes wrong, but they won't. That would expose the truth and the Wash Post is not interested in that. They are all in no matter the method to destroy Trump.

 

[CowboyJD]

The comments are so over the top only a liberal idiot or someone with an agenda would think they were serious. People there say it was all in jest.

They can release the audio and prove us Trump rubes wrong, but they won't. That would expose the truth and the Wash Post is not interested in that. They are all in no matter the method to destroy Trump.

So you don't know.

You're guessing. You may end up right. You may end up wrong....but you don't know.

And therefore your posts are the fakest of fake news.

Can you give me quotes of people there all saying it was in jest?

Maybe someone without an agenda of their own to promote?

 

[Headhunter]

You actually believe this was a serious conversation? Trump being paid by Putin?

Trump derangement syndrome has really got you guys by the balls.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

I said the Wash Post won't release the audio.

There is an audio and it would totally destroy the tone of the article and probably give everyone a good idea who recorded it.

FAKE NEWS.

They dont HAVE the recording to release. As the story says, they listened to it to confirm it.

The transcript is linked in the story. I read it closely. Its bad. McCarthy made a factual statement. The really juicy stuff is unintelligible.

Assuming the transcript is true, they laughed, but it was truthful stuff they were saying. If I said, "That girl is sooo fat" and my buddy giggled, a reader of the transcript would say, "Yes, he's being funny, and yes, he meant to say she's fat."
What's really bad is that they were discussing facts and then other stuff was said that was marked "unintelligible" and then Ryan says over laughter to keep it quiet. I cant' see why laughing means none of it is true. The facts that were expressed weren't punchlines or yuckety-yuck stuff. If anything, the laughter was marveling at how eff'd up the facts were. Maybe there was a funny joke in the "unintelligible" portion of the transcript, but nothing in the transcript makes me think the facts weren't represented as truth.

 

[CowboyJD]

You actually believe this was a serious conversation? Trump being paid by Putin?

Trump derangement syndrome has really got you guys by the balls.

I haven't said what I believe, nor is that at all relevant to my question.

I don't want to know what you "believe".

That is also irrelevant to my question.

I want to hear what you objectively know and how you objectively established what you know.

There is a huge gap between objective knowledge and belief or even reasonable inference. I'm pretty sure even you are capable of understanding that difference.

 

[Headhunter]

The transcript itself suggests McCarthy was joking. The context of the private conversation was a discussion about how Russian propaganda has infiltrated Ukraine and beyond.

McCarthy told his colleagues that the Russians had hacked the Democratic National Committee to find opposition research on Trump, and then laughed. According to the transcript at the Post, the conversation then proceeded as follows — punctuated by repeated bouts of laughter:

McCarthy: The Russians hacked the DNC and got the opp [sic] research that they had on Trump.

McCarthy: laughs

[Crosstalk]

Ryan: The Russian’s [sic] hacked the DNC…

McHenry: …to get oppo…

Ryan: …on Trump and like delivered it to…to who?

[Unintelligible]

McCarthy: There’s…there’s two people, I think, Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump…[laughter]…swear to God.

Ryan: This is an off the record…[laughter]…NO LEAKS…[laughter]…alright?! [Laughter]

Ryan: This is how we know we’re a real family here.

If you think this was a serious conversation I can no longer encourage your derangement. Good luck the next four years with your mental health.

 

[Been Jammin]

The transcript itself suggests McCarthy was joking. The context of the private conversation was a discussion about how Russian propaganda has infiltrated Ukraine and beyond.

McCarthy told his colleagues that the Russians had hacked the Democratic National Committee to find opposition research on Trump, and then laughed. According to the transcript at the Post, the conversation then proceeded as follows — punctuated by repeated bouts of laughter:

McCarthy: The Russians hacked the DNC and got the opp [sic] research that they had on Trump.

McCarthy: laughs

[Crosstalk]

Ryan: The Russian’s [sic] hacked the DNC…

McHenry: …to get oppo…

Ryan: …on Trump and like delivered it to…to who?

[Unintelligible]

McCarthy: There’s…there’s two people, I think, Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump…[laughter]…swear to God.

Ryan: This is an off the record…[laughter]…NO LEAKS…[laughter]…alright?! [Laughter]

Ryan: This is how we know we’re a real family here.

If you think this was a serious conversation I can no longer encourage your derangement. Good luck the next four years with your mental health.

It can be interpreted either way. You see what you want to see. An actual audio recording might make it clearer. Ultimately, who cares? Whether he was joking or serious, it seems pretty clear that he was either guessing or making it up.

Much doo doo about nothing.

 

[Headhunter]

The transcript itself suggests McCarthy was joking. The context of the private conversation was a discussion about how Russian propaganda has infiltrated Ukraine and beyond.

McCarthy told his colleagues that the Russians had hacked the Democratic National Committee to find opposition research on Trump, and then laughed. According to the transcript at the Post, the conversation then proceeded as follows — punctuated by repeated bouts of laughter:

McCarthy: The Russians hacked the DNC and got the opp [sic] research that they had on Trump.

McCarthy: laughs

[Crosstalk]

Ryan: The Russian’s [sic] hacked the DNC…

McHenry: …to get oppo…

Ryan: …on Trump and like delivered it to…to who?

[Unintelligible]

McCarthy: There’s…there’s two people, I think, Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump…[laughter]…swear to God.

Ryan: This is an off the record…[laughter]…NO LEAKS…[laughter]…alright?! [Laughter]

Ryan: This is how we know we’re a real family here.

If you think this was a serious conversation I can no longer encourage your derangement. Good luck the next four years with your mental health.

It can be interpreted either way. You see what you want to see. An actual audio recording might make it clearer. Ultimately, who cares? Whether he was joking or serious, it seems pretty clear that he was either guessing or making it up.

Much doo doo about nothing.

Yes, much doo doo about nothing.

So why the hell was it a big story in the Wash Post?

 

[Medic007]

Yes, much doo doo about nothing.

So why the hell was it a big story in the Wash Post?

Because WaPo is a giant festering vagina full of infected lefty tears. Plus, syssy reads it. Not much more to say.

 

[CowboyJD]

The transcript itself suggests McCarthy was joking. The context of the private conversation was a discussion about how Russian propaganda has infiltrated Ukraine and beyond.

McCarthy told his colleagues that the Russians had hacked the Democratic National Committee to find opposition research on Trump, and then laughed. According to the transcript at the Post, the conversation then proceeded as follows — punctuated by repeated bouts of laughter:

McCarthy: The Russians hacked the DNC and got the opp [sic] research that they had on Trump.

McCarthy: laughs

[Crosstalk]

Ryan: The Russian’s [sic] hacked the DNC…

McHenry: …to get oppo…

Ryan: …on Trump and like delivered it to…to who?

[Unintelligible]

McCarthy: There’s…there’s two people, I think, Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump…[laughter]…swear to God.

Ryan: This is an off the record…[laughter]…NO LEAKS…[laughter]…alright?! [Laughter]

Ryan: This is how we know we’re a real family here.

If you think this was a serious conversation I can no longer encourage your derangement. Good luck the next four years with your mental health.

Suggests....believes...but what to do you know?

At this point, it has really turned into a rhetorical question.

 

[Headhunter]

Suggests....believes...but what to do you know?

At this point, it has really turned into a rhetorical question.

"Rhetorical"? Joking, not joking.

Looks like a binary choice to me.