I agree with you 10000000%. OSU has to step up or we will fall behind even farther with PSU
Nate Carr's son, has some excellent results and a few head scratchers. Maybe working with Espo last year at Cadet worlds gives us a boost.Don't know much about the kid but we made David Carr's top 5.
David Carr is ranked #1 at 160 and has great talent and great heritage with Nate Carr as his father. This would be a great get!Nate Carr's son, has some excellent results and a few head scratchers. Maybe working with Espo last year at Cadet worlds gives us a boost.
I am in total agreement. Why keep our light under a bushel basket? These coaching moves need to be publicized. Have known for months now that Derek was the training center coach yet no announcement. Derek knows everyone nationwide that is a coach/and/or wrestler. Both will be instrumental in recruiting.Brayton Lee tweeted a photo of him and Daton on the field Saturday. Don't know if we had anyone else in for an official visit. Will Lewan is in Athens competing in the Cadet World Championships, so he was obviously not there.
Unrelated, Derek Fix's twitter now says CWC coach and Tyler Caldwell's says Recruiting Coordinator. I really like both of these moves, but I have no idea why we don't make any announcements. I genuinely believe we need to involve someone with a business background to help with the college program and the RTC. We need to do a better job of marketing our team and success, using social media to increase awareness and excitement, generating ideas on how to raise funds for the RTC. It's no longer enough to be successful on the mat, teams are running their programs and associated RTCs like organizations now. We need to keep up. Ok, rant over.
One time target Will Lewan verballed to Michigan. Not too surprising since Sean Bormet was in his corner at Cadet Worlds.
I'm still holding out hope that we can land Brayton Lee and David Carr. At Flo's WNO on Oct 8th, Brayton Lee will face Lewan at 152 and David Carr will face Joe Lee at 160.
Man we are really struggling it feels like
Since Lewan is a Cadet World Champ it sounds ridiculous to say, but I prefer Lee. We'll see in a few weeks.
I hope we can get Lee and Carr, because we need those weights badly. They are the top guys at those weights. I will be disappointed if we don't get one of them.
Any other recruits still out there? Haven't heard anything about in state guys like Golewenski and Curry. How about Zach Elam from KC? He is getting some D1 looks in football, but he looked like a great wrestling prospect at Fargo.
I am trying to bite my tongue also. I am very concerned we are being out smarted and out worked recruiting.Biting my tongue until the signing period is over.
Agree, I like Lee better as a prospect. I haven't heard about any other recruits that are still in play for us.
I am trying to bite my tongue also. I am very concerned we are being out smarted and out worked recruiting.
I have no idea if this is the case but we are also still a relatively young team. We might not have much scholarship money available. The flip side of that is most of our studs are Oklahoma kids so they shouldn't take as much scholarship money (in theory). So I have no idea.
My tongue is also sore. I just have to believe that we have recruits like Carr and Lee in hand but are keeping it to ourselves. If not then count me in the Harley camp.I think we also are going to spend more time on the guys just below the top tier guys. So when they go to PSU or to some extent OhSt and Iowa we aren't scrambling.
The power of the Big10 in various ways is going to make recruiting tougher on osu moving forward. Not meaning we can't still compete for NC's but the landscape has changed and we may need to alter our approach to recruiting to a degree.
When is signing day? Is that when you guys think we should know on Carr and Lee or any other prospects?
We need to establish ourselves again as THE wrestling school to go to if you're below the Mason-Dixon line and West of the Mississippi. And if you are in Big 10 country and want to wrestle for the best, but want warm weather and don't like giant pasty white girls with kankles, come here. This ASU resurgence could hurt us. But generally our guys need to get to work, learn the new methods of recruiting and use them!
Sounds like someone is looking for a BAN. Admin, please handle this guy.The problem is the programs we are competing against are more well funded, draw bigger crowds, are in the process of building fantastic wrestling centered facilities and most importantly have much stronger and funded RTC's.
The truly elite guys are looking at the RTC's as much as anything these days and we are severely lacking currently.
The landscape isn't the same as it was even 10 years ago and the ability to "establish" ourselves again is much tougher.
Great to hear that the Cowboys have a couple on board! These both look like solid prospects. It's been too long since we have had anyone from California. Kyle Griffin is the last I remember and I think he was from Clovis too.Another verbal commit tonight. Jalin Harper earlier and now Anthony Montalvo out of CA, #7 at 182 and #54 overall.
Welcome Anthony!
Link:
http://www.flowrestling.org/article...ntalvo-verbals-to-oklahoma-state#.Wc3R9miPLIU
The problem is the programs we are competing against are more well funded, draw bigger crowds, are in the process of building fantastic wrestling centered facilities and most importantly have much stronger and funded RTC's.
The truly elite guys are looking at the RTC's as much as anything these days and we are severely lacking currently.
The landscape isn't the same as it was even 10 years ago and the ability to "establish" ourselves again is much tougher.
]Sounds like someone is looking for a BAN. Admin, please handle this guy.
gotta put that little smiley face onHe was joking guys.
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Why on earth would he be banned? Telling the truth, no matter how unpleasant it is for us to hear.
was sneaking in a quick peak at work, and stepped on itI’d get to NAPA as soon as you can today. It appears your sarcasm meter is on the fritz.
does anybody have any info on our new recruits
i take it we're not going to land any big time recruits this year huh
David Carr's visit is scheduled for this weekend. If he makes it there is a chance.
Wrassler, I just watched the Rogers, Jacobe Smith and Kaid Brock videos. Proud they are Cowboys. All are very thoughtful and focused and it is apparent John, Espo and Chris have worked on both their technique but also their mindset. I look forward to great things from all three this year.Carr would be a great pickup, no doubt. It's also possible that Lee cancelled his announcement because someone (us?) made a last minute push. And of course, an early verbal could flip. Beard, Teasdale, and Cassioppi all flipped this year.
FYI, some good videos just went up on Flo from our practice today.
Wrassler, I just watched the Rogers, Jacobe Smith and Kaid Brock videos. Proud they are Cowboys. All are very thoughtful and focused and it is apparent John, Espo and Chris have worked on both their technique but also their mindset. I look forward to great things from all three this year.
A couple of months ago Sammy Sasso told my bosses daughter that Okla State was his first choice. Now its Ohio State and Va Tech. Flow also listed Nebraska.
The general consensus is that we have no money this year and a big name or recruit will not come just because of John and the Oklahoma State tradition. I think we will have to be content with what we have committed. Heil is the only senior starter so it does not free up much money for next year committments.Recruiting can be a very fickle thing. You really just don't know until the LOI is signed. About 6 months ago Sasso tweeted a picture wearing an OSU jacket, which Espo 'liked'. I haven't seen any other indication of interest since.
While I would love to make inroads into PA recruiting again, it could be that our staff feels Sasso projects at 149 and we already have Gfeller. From a lineup (and style) standpoint, Carr and Lee might fit better.