Don't worry. It's safe.

[Poketologist]

Toxic Effects from Ivermectin Use Associated with Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 | NEJM

Correspondence from The New England Journal of Medicine — Toxic Effects from Ivermectin Use Associated with Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19

www.nejm.org

 

[On Tulsa Time]

Toxic Effects from Ivermectin Use Associated with Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 | NEJM

Correspondence from The New England Journal of Medicine — Toxic Effects from Ivermectin Use Associated with Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19

www.nejm.org

You of all people should know better.

 

[Poketologist]

But aspirin is safe, and beneficial.
Low level data, but promising.

Aspirin Use Is Associated With Decreased Mechanical Ventilation, Intensive Care Unit Admission, and In-Hospital Mortality in Hospitalized Patients With Coronavirus Disease 2019 - PubMed

Aspirin use may be associated with improved outcomes in hospitalized COVID-19 patients. However, a sufficiently powered randomized controlled trial is needed to assess whether a causal relationship exists between aspirin use and reduced lung injury and mortality in COVID-19 patients.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Poketologist]

You of all people should know better.

Heard that from my mom every day growing up.

 

[squeak]

I started taking low dose when I got covid.

Toxic Effects from Ivermectin Use Associated with Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 | NEJM

Correspondence from The New England Journal of Medicine — Toxic Effects from Ivermectin Use Associated with Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19

www.nejm.org

21 calls in August in 3 states. It’s an epidemic.

 

[Poketologist]

I started taking low dose when I got covid.

21 calls in August in 3 states. It’s an epidemic.

What did you take when you got intestinal roundworms?

 

[squeak]

What did you take when you got intestinal roundworms?

I never took ivermectin, I took low-dose aspirin.

 

[On Tulsa Time]

What did you take when you got intestinal roundworms?

Mind sharing what viagra was created for and it’s common use is now?

 

[Poketologist]

Mind sharing what viagra was created for and it’s common use is now?

Primary Pulmonary hypertension.
Erectile dysfunction.

 

[On Tulsa Time]

Primary Pulmonary hypertension.
Erectile dysfunction.

So you’re saying there is a chance?

 

[Poketologist]

So you’re saying there is a chance?

Viagra is proven effective for both, yes.

 

[squeak]

Viagra is proven effective for both, yes.

So no chance that ivermectin can help in the early stages of covid? You can say that with 100% certainty?

 

[On Tulsa Time]

Viagra is proven effective for both, yes.

Why are you afraid of this?

 

[Poketologist]

So no chance that ivermectin can help in the early stages of covid? You can say that with 100% certainty?

100%. Like you and your convictions.

 

[squeak]

Why are you afraid of this?

Bro discovering the truth is less important than winning an argument. One side is saying the only thing that can help with covid is a “vaccine” that will help keep you out of the hospital if you are young and in decent health. Any argument otherwise is immediately disregarded because you’re a phucking rube who hates science.

In my experience the angrier someone is when arguing their side the more full of shit they are.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure the immunity booster jabs help but I think there are likely treatments that can be very effective as well.

 

[squeak]

100%. Like you and your convictions.

Interesting.

 

[Poketologist]

Why are you afraid of this?

Afraid of ... uh, Viagra? not at all. Also I don't think you're having the conversation you think you are. I'm not good with vagueness and assumptions. Spit it out, bro. I'll answer if I feel like it adds constructively to the fund of knowledge.

 

[On Tulsa Time]

Afraid of ... uh, Viagra? not at all. Also I don't think you're having the conversation you think you are. I'm not good with vagueness and assumptions. Spit it out, bro. I'll answer if I feel like it adds constructively to the fund of knowledge.

You know the difference in dosage (or should) and you’re being an ass about it. Having a MD should matter.

 

[Rdcldad]

Toxic Effects from Ivermectin Use Associated with Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 | NEJM

Correspondence from The New England Journal of Medicine — Toxic Effects from Ivermectin Use Associated with Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19

www.nejm.org

i couldn’t get your link to work

were you speaking of this dr. fauci telling America it’s safe?

joe rogan = credibility

fauci = lies and people die

 

[JimmyBob]

i couldn’t get your link to work

were you speaking of this dr. fauci telling America it’s safe?

joe rogan = credibility

fauci = lies and people die

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The lying little bastard will never concede:

Fauci refuses to budge when confronted about damning NIH letter seemingly admitting risky research funding | Blaze Media

Dr. Anthony Fauci refused to budge on his narrative Sunday when confronted about a new letter from the National Institutes of Health, which seemingly admitted the agency engaged in gain-of-function research at the infamous Wuhan Institute of Virology. What is the background? Throughout the...

www.theblaze.com

Of course he was being interviewed by Hillary's boy Stephy, so no credibility on either side.

 

[Rdcldad]

triple vax

 

[Rdcldad]

natural immunity better but get the jab

again credibility zero

 

[Rdcldad]

gator surgeon general

go to 1:29

 

[Poketologist]

You know the difference in dosage (or should) and you’re being an ass about it. Having a MD should matter

OK since you're pitching a fit, I will tell you what I know. Whether or not you still think I'm an ass is irrelevant.

The original medication - Sildenafil - for pulmonary hypertension is a phosphodiesterase inhibitor and had a dose of 20 mg. Rebranded as Viagra, it comes in 50 and 100 mg. Made a shit ton of money for Pfizer.

I usually take 450 mg. The side effects are a bitch.

 

[SquatchinPoke]

OK since you're pitching a fit, I will tell you what I know. Whether or not you still think I'm an ass is irrelevant.

The original medication - Sildenafil - for pulmonary hypertension is a phosphodiesterase inhibitor and had a dose of 20 mg. Rebranded as Viagra, it comes in 50 and 100 mg. Made a shit ton of money for Pfizer.

I usually take 450 mg. The side effects are a bitch.

Oh man I bet you definitely end up in the ER with a four hour boner.

 

[Standing_desk_only]

Several of those symptoms could be from COVID.

No one died.

That’s the dumbest sample size I’ve ever seen.

Ivermectin was administered to treat COVID by a medical professional for someone I care deeply. It more or less brought them back to life.

I’d like for the dialogue surrounding all options to be more grounded with many legitimate tests being run in tandem with the vaccine which is also a test. There are clearly multiple treatment options. If this is worthy of the lockdowns, masks, etc., shouldn’t we be fast tracking all research?

Most Scandinavian countries are moving to treat this like a seasonal virus. If that’s the case, we’d be better off with a Z-pack COVID equivalent, not vaccine mandates.

Seeing an MD react this way is disheartening to say the least. It’s a clear illustration for why getting a second opinion is such a valuable resource for patients.

 

[Poketologist]

natural immunity better but get the jab

again credibility zero

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Actually - being recovered from Covid and being vaccinated are both effective.

I actually attended (online) a lecture by Fauci today and he gave us an update. Also gonna drop some truth bombs.

There is some evidence that we are reaching endemic rather than pandemic proportions. So the number of infected + vaccinated has grown to the point that spread has seriously diminished. Hopefully we are on the downside of the last wave, not unlike what happened with the last wave of Spanish Flu a century ago.

There is the theoretical benefit to having had the infection in that you would have developed antibodies to all parts of the viral particle, not just the spike protein (there are at least 4 different proteins). So it's probably unnecessary for the previously-infected to get a vaccine. Although those people who have been infected and then vaccinated have a ten- fold higher titer of antibodies.
.
However, getting your immunity through infection comes at a high cost (2.3% mortality risk). Also no risk of "Long Covid" with the vaccine.

We also know that immunity wanes. with the vaccine you go from a 94-98% protected to perhaps 80% at 6 months ( although the unvaccinated are 10 times more likely to die from COVID).

He didn't mention anything about Joe Rogan. Or Joe Biden, for that matter.

Zithromax doesn't work against the common cold. It's for atypical pneumonia. Giving a zpack for the common cold is a non-creative delay tactic that the doc-in-the-box gives you in order to (1) get you out of the busy exam room, (2) satisfy your desire to take drugs, and (3) boost his patient satisfaction scores. Nature takes its course and you start feeling better when you start exhausting the Z pack in 5 days.

There has never been a trial to prove efficacy of ivermectin for treating COVID. It had been shown to be effective in vitro (in a Petri dish) against the viral particles at 400 times the recommended dose. I'm glad your loved one survived covid after taking ivermectin. However, correlation does not prove causation.

Let me know if any of this isn't logical. I probably won't respond though.

That and 99 cents will get you a breakfast biscuit tomorrow morning. Plus tax.

 

[Medic007]

Actually - being recovered from Covid and being vaccinated are both effective.

I actually attended (online) a lecture by Fauci today and he gave us an update. Also gonna drop some truth bombs.

There is some evidence that we are reaching endemic rather than pandemic proportions. So the number of infected + vaccinated has grown to the point that spread has seriously diminished. Hopefully we are on the downside of the last wave, not unlike what happened with the last wave of Spanish Flu a century ago.

There is the theoretical benefit to having had the infection in that you would have developed antibodies to all parts of the viral particle, not just the spike protein (there are at least 4 different proteins). So it's probably unnecessary for the previously-infected to get a vaccine. Although those people who have been infected and then vaccinated have a ten- fold higher titer of antibodies.
.
However, getting your immunity through infection comes at a high cost (2.3% mortality risk). Also no risk of "Long Covid" with the vaccine.

We also know that immunity wanes. with the vaccine you go from a 94-98% protected to perhaps 80% at 6 months ( although the unvaccinated are 10 times more likely to die from COVID).

He didn't mention anything about Joe Rogan. Or Joe Biden, for that matter.

Zithromax doesn't work against the common cold. It's for atypical pneumonia. Giving a zpack for the common cold is a non-creative delay tactic that the doc-in-the-box gives you in order to (1) get you out of the busy exam room, (2) satisfy your desire to take drugs, and (3) boost his patient satisfaction scores. Nature takes its course and you start feeling better when you start exhausting the Z pack in 5 days.

There has never been a trial to prove efficacy of ivermectin for treating COVID. It had been shown to be effective in vitro (in a Petri dish) against the viral particles at 400 times the recommended dose. I'm glad your loved one survived covid after taking ivermectin. However, correlation does not prove causation.

Let me know if any of this isn't logical. I probably won't respond though.

That and 99 cents will get you a breakfast biscuit tomorrow morning. Plus tax.

A serious thanks for the info on the lecture today.

 

[Standing_desk_only]

What can I say. You’ve outlined a few reasons why people aren’t wrong in questioning the medical community (like prescribing unnecessary medication because of pharm reps bringing donuts and quick cash.) You have an oath but the vast majority of physicians just write the Rx?

I don’t have to question intelligence when you offer up laziness for free.

The biggest reason to question it: you’re entire industry didn’t prepare for any additional waves. Maybe that predictive analytics didn’t show in your medical journals, but it was certainly in a history book.

 

[Poketologist]

What can I say. You’ve outlined a few reasons why people aren’t wrong in questioning the medical community (like prescribing unnecessary medication because of pharm reps bringing donuts and quick cash.) You have an oath but the vast majority of physicians just write the Rx?

I don’t have to question intelligence when you offer up laziness for free.

The biggest reason to question it: you’re entire industry didn’t prepare for any additional waves. Maybe that predictive analytics didn’t show in your medical journals, but it was certainly in a history book.

OK. Welp... on behalf of my entire industry - sorry bout that.

 

[Medic007]

The biggest reason to question it: you’re entire industry didn’t prepare for any additional waves. Maybe that predictive analytics didn’t show in your medical journals, but it was certainly in a history book.

Uh, do what?

 

[Standing_desk_only]

Uh, do what?

If the panic and overcrowding during delta was as advertised, we did very little to prepare for an additional wave.

 

[Standing_desk_only]

If the panic and overcrowding during delta was as advertised, we did very little to prepare for an additional wave.

Let me be more clear: I see it as either passive propaganda or gross negligence.

There was more than ample time to rethink all medical facilities, deliver proper treatments, update equipment, etc.

 

[Poketologist]

Uh, do what?

He/ she is right.
There was a drastic shortage of PPE and the vaccine took over a year to roll out.

 

[Poketologist]

Let me be more clear: I see it as either passive propaganda or gross negligence.

There was more than ample time to rethink all medical facilities, deliver proper treatments, update equipment, etc.

... and to get vaccinated, the lack of which has cost hundreds of billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives.

 

[Poketologist]

Let me be more clear: I see it as either passive propaganda or gross negligence.

There was more than ample time to rethink all medical facilities, deliver proper treatments, update equipment, etc.

also I would have to like to have seen more donuts.

 

[Medic007]

There was more than ample time to rethink all medical facilities, deliver proper treatments, update equipment, etc.

Yes, that couple month lull was ample time to imagine, design, fund, build, equip (lol), and staff all kinds of new hospital towers and wings.

And that few months was definitely plenty of time to build/buy/staff enough ambulances to hold the folks who refused to be vaccinated while waiting on another refused to be vaccinated person in the ED to get admitted to the ICU. But damn, there aren't any ICU beds because the folks who refused to be vaccinated are occupying most of them.

Yeah, it's too bad we didn't have your superhero help sooner. Maybe next time?

 

[Rdcldad]

Actually - being recovered from Covid and being vaccinated are both effective.

I actually attended (online) a lecture by Fauci today and he gave us an update. Also gonna drop some truth bombs.

There is some evidence that we are reaching endemic rather than pandemic proportions. So the number of infected + vaccinated has grown to the point that spread has seriously diminished. Hopefully we are on the downside of the last wave, not unlike what happened with the last wave of Spanish Flu a century ago.

There is the theoretical benefit to having had the infection in that you would have developed antibodies to all parts of the viral particle, not just the spike protein (there are at least 4 different proteins). So it's probably unnecessary for the previously-infected to get a vaccine. Although those people who have been infected and then vaccinated have a ten- fold higher titer of antibodies.
.
However, getting your immunity through infection comes at a high cost (2.3% mortality risk). Also no risk of "Long Covid" with the vaccine.

We also know that immunity wanes. with the vaccine you go from a 94-98% protected to perhaps 80% at 6 months ( although the unvaccinated are 10 times more likely to die from COVID).

He didn't mention anything about Joe Rogan. Or Joe Biden, for that matter.

Zithromax doesn't work against the common cold. It's for atypical pneumonia. Giving a zpack for the common cold is a non-creative delay tactic that the doc-in-the-box gives you in order to (1) get you out of the busy exam room, (2) satisfy your desire to take drugs, and (3) boost his patient satisfaction scores. Nature takes its course and you start feeling better when you start exhausting the Z pack in 5 days.

There has never been a trial to prove efficacy of ivermectin for treating COVID. It had been shown to be effective in vitro (in a Petri dish) against the viral particles at 400 times the recommended dose. I'm glad your loved one survived covid after taking ivermectin. However, correlation does not prove causation.

Let me know if any of this isn't logical. I probably won't respond though.

That and 99 cents will get you a breakfast biscuit tomorrow morning. Plus tax.

boog got a couple days off

with the fauci reference and “truth bombs”

this one stuck with me and in particular aged like fine wine

more lecture from fauci lol

 

[Corndog2021]

Actually - being recovered from Covid and being vaccinated are both effective.

I actually attended (online) a lecture by Fauci today and he gave us an update. Also gonna drop some truth bombs.

There is some evidence that we are reaching endemic rather than pandemic proportions. So the number of infected + vaccinated has grown to the point that spread has seriously diminished. Hopefully we are on the downside of the last wave, not unlike what happened with the last wave of Spanish Flu a century ago.

There is the theoretical benefit to having had the infection in that you would have developed antibodies to all parts of the viral particle, not just the spike protein (there are at least 4 different proteins). So it's probably unnecessary for the previously-infected to get a vaccine. Although those people who have been infected and then vaccinated have a ten- fold higher titer of antibodies.
.
However, getting your immunity through infection comes at a high cost (2.3% mortality risk). Also no risk of "Long Covid" with the vaccine.

We also know that immunity wanes. with the vaccine you go from a 94-98% protected to perhaps 80% at 6 months ( although the unvaccinated are 10 times more likely to die from COVID).

He didn't mention anything about Joe Rogan. Or Joe Biden, for that matter.

Zithromax doesn't work against the common cold. It's for atypical pneumonia. Giving a zpack for the common cold is a non-creative delay tactic that the doc-in-the-box gives you in order to (1) get you out of the busy exam room, (2) satisfy your desire to take drugs, and (3) boost his patient satisfaction scores. Nature takes its course and you start feeling better when you start exhausting the Z pack in 5 days.

There has never been a trial to prove efficacy of ivermectin for treating COVID. It had been shown to be effective in vitro (in a Petri dish) against the viral particles at 400 times the recommended dose. I'm glad your loved one survived covid after taking ivermectin. However, correlation does not prove causation.

Let me know if any of this isn't logical. I probably won't respond though.

That and 99 cents will get you a breakfast biscuit tomorrow morning. Plus tax.

Sociopath Fauci May drop a truth bomb "masks don't work" but then He flips with lies "wear masks"...rinse and repeat "lockdowns are harmful"....he will flip again.
The Biggest mass murder in planetary history (for sure the US) and should be hung - but in our mucked you country - still has a job and idiots actually listen to him

But Science- Sit down, shut up and take the jab

Pandemic of the Vaccinated: Two Studies Show New Evidence that Covid-19 Vaccines "Cause More Illness than They Prevent" | The Gateway Pundit | by Julian Conradson

Pandemic of the Vaccinated: Two Studies Show New Evidence that Covid-19 Vaccines “Cause MORE ILLNESS than they Prevent” – After 3 Months, Pfizer Jab Recipients are 76.5% MORE LIKELY than the Unvaxxed to Contract Covid Two newly released studies show that – after a brief period of moderate...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Corndog2021]

Oh and y'all Fauci and shot lovers- did y'all happen to miss the cdc admittance of the PCR tests are horseshit and have been all along? Makes the whole thing a big ole fake- so fake doctor comes on and attacks IVM- predictable

Bump in case y'all did miss it

HUGE. CDC Withdraws Use of PCR Test for COVID and Finally Admits the Test Can Not Differentiate Between the Flu and COVID Virus | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

This is BIG NEWS.

www.thegatewaypundit.com