Don't listen to the environmental experts. It's all a conspiracy.
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One piece says their models are becoming super accurate. The other piece says the temperatures far exceeded expectations.
Which is it?
Which is it?
No such thing as funding bias, no such thing as funding bias, no such thing as funding bias...
Are we in Kansas yet?
Are we in Kansas yet?
Are there any other major political parties in the world that deny climate change like the GOP?
Of course the climate changes. It has been changing for a few billion years. The source of the change is debatable. To say "denies climate change" is purposely misleading.
Why do Democrats want to criminalize opposing views? That's the real question.
Along with: "if Democrats think the change in the climate is so dire, why do they not drastically alter their own actions and lifestyle accordingly?"
I wonder if the people of Denmark are sold on man made climate change after literally running out of limos and jam packing their airports with private jets during the climate summit. People don't do stuff like that when they think there is a grave danger lurking around the corner. It just doesn't happen.
Ketchup Kerry says air conditioning is a bigger threat than ISIS. A petition was started to have the AC removed from State Department facilities. Surely he's going to lead by example.
I wonder how much greenhouse gas is being produced during the DNC convention. In these grave times of life threatening climate change, the Dems should have just put out a statement that Hildabitch was crowned. They could have been super environmentally friendly by holding their vote over the internet. That simplicity would have made me think about man made climate change as something more than liberal money grubbing bullshit.
I wonder how much greenhouse gas is being produced during the DNC convention. In these grave times of life threatening climate change, the Dems should have just put out a statement that Hildabitch was crowned. They could have been super environmentally friendly by holding their vote over the internet. That simplicity would have made me think about man made climate change as something more than liberal money grubbing bullshit.
Come on, at least keep your talking points up to date
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/feb/29/china-coal-consumption-drops-again
http://www.publicfinanceinternation...hina-worlds-largest-investor-renewable-energy
China is reportedly going big on nuclear, which is what the U.S. should also do. Hopefully the Chinese are intent on doing it safely.
Hopefully I'll grow three inches overnight and wake up with a 42" vertical jump tomorrow.
Always with the anecdotal responses.
I've given up on Medic -- he literally admitted some time ago that no data from government or academic researchers could be a credible basis for analyzing the issue, as they're all biased. Of course, that leaves laymen to figure it out. And any laymen with a full set of teeth are suspect...
If you don't believe the consensus, what does it take to change your mind? Outside of Leonardo Decaprio flying a solar plane or whatever anecdote is important.... Is there a set of data or someone that you would listen to? Or does the answer simply rest in the transportation that climate change activists use to get around?
Are you feeling better? What's the malady you're wrestling with?
Both? Maybe they're accurate, and have erred on the side of being conservative? Or are you just grasping at whatever argument preserves the dogma?
You know that you guys sound exactly like the tobacco industry used to?
I would bet that nearly everyone on this board is more environmentally friendly than the people in DC who are pushing it.
Cool. So what does it take for you to accept it? Any science, or is it all a matter of anecdote?
If every prediction made by the IPCC is correct -- what effect will any/all of the policy proposals have global temperatures over the next 50 years? 100 years?
Well, if you change the question to meet your parameters, would that change the answer? Are there other political parties that resist the scientific reasons given for climate change like the GOP?
You're such a drama queen. Just because I'm not a bootlicker doesn't mean I disagree with the all of the government funded data.
Climate change is a reality. This planet is like 4 billion years old. We've had freaking ice ages and shit. What part do humans play? That's the question that the man-made climate alarmists haven't been able to conclusively answer for me. The fact that liberals have done all kinds of weird shit to silence opposing research, including recently indicating a desire to criminalize it, adds to my skepticism.
But if it makes you happy, I do my part. I have 2 very fuel efficient cars, recycle, have a very efficient heat and air system, don't travel much, etc. How about you? Do you just talk about it like the alarmists or are you actively doing your part? Al Gore, for all of his climate change bluster, sure has had a big carbon footprint.
Is that kind of like your blind, stubborn defense of the oil and gas industry?
Are their other political parties besides Democrats that work really hard to silence opposing research, including wanting to criminalize it?
Research by the oil and gas industry trying to tell us all is well is nothing more than defense of their own self interests. It costs money to conform to strict regulations, and by God we can't be affecting profits can we?....
I've only lodged a response to your incredibly ****ing ignorant and /or woefully misinformed comments about the oil and gas industry and taxes.
Do jets carting The DC establishment, Leonardo DiCaprio and the entire Obama clan hither and yon as they globe-trot run on something produced by an industry other than the oil and gas industry?
No clue. I don't know if there are even any other countries that have this same dynamic. I guess it could be a chicken or egg thing, but I think you would have to have the answer to my question before you can get the answer to yours.
So, if oil and gas entities fund research it's inherently evil. If entities seeking to gain control over energy production and resources fund it in the name of gaia, it's inherently good. Got it.
Quick question: which industry funds more research into alternative energy sources and technologies?
Did you read that article? It does a fairly decent job making my point. The last 2 paragraphs:
"The law was supposedly designed to protect teachers who "help students understand, analyze, critique and review in an objective manner the scientific strengths and scientific weaknesses of existing scientific theories covered in the course being taught," Reuters reported.
But some scientists saw the law as a threat to education. "We need to keep kids' curiosity about science alive and not limit their ability to understand the world around them by exposing them to misinformation," Brenda Ekwurzel, of the Union of Concerned Scientists, told Reuters."
All while using private planes and living in energy hog houses
This.
It's completely useless to cut out own throats when the rest of the world does not. Statistically meaningless self limiting gesture at this point.
Also - few people debate climate change. That's not really the point.
SM, you have to at least admit that this topic - urgent or not - is a very political divide on both sides right?
Your answer is the exact same as mine. No clue. My views on the science aren't formed by a political party and I don't bother with the political commentary on climate change research except as entertainment. I read the actual research.
For me, nobody has found the smoking gun that says humans are responsible for climate change. I won't say it isn't possible, but nothing I've read to this point gives me concrete evidence. Proclaiming it as "fact" and giving blanket dismissal to opposing science because "climate change" doesn't do it for me.
If that was directed towards me, sure.
Oddly enough when I first registered my name was Emmett89 or some number on the free boards and at one point I signed up for a silver membership over the phone and the guy for whatever reason changed my name to (I assume) S(ilver) M(ember) Emmett. And now I look like some sort of Pulp Fiction basement scene guy.
just answering your question "Are their other political parties besides Democrats that work really hard to silence opposing research, including wanting to criminalize it?" Yes. Florida Republicans made "global warming" and "climate change" verboten for state employees. Is it the end of the world? No. Do both sides do it? Sure.
As usual, @Medic007 poses other questions (which are answered) but can't quite break himself off his looped, Glenn Beck-sponsored narrative long enough to answer a pretty good question.
