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Don’t worry socialists we are here to help

So are we saying socialism failed again? I thought for sure that socialism in Venezuela would be awesome. That's what they promised the people of Venezuela.

Surely there's a successful socialist country out there that we can look at to see where the "democratic socialists" want to take the US.
 
So are we saying socialism failed again? I thought for sure that socialism in Venezuela would be awesome. That's what they promised the people of Venezuela.

Surely there's a successful socialist country out there that we can look at to see where the "democratic socialists" want to take the US.

There is but there is an awkward part.

It’s only in places whiter than us.
 
Why do Libs want to bring the impoverished here, where their scant skillsets (the impoverished, not the Libs) will not allow most to meaningfully plug into our economy, when volunteering, personal charitable giving, and governmental foreign aid would help the problem at its source?

Yep. 20% of the world's immigrants (more than any other country) come to the US. But, our lack of taking more immigrants is the problem.
 
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Yep. 20% of the world's immigrants (more than any other country) come to the US. But, our lack of taking more immigrants is the problem.

Studies have shown a mass influx of immigration is a surefire way to increased economic growth.
 
That's an estimation by a left leaning group, not a study. Remember when Obamacare was going to save us $2,500 per year? That was also an estimation. I could give you charts regarding how you could get a second job and become a millionaire in 5 years, but that doesn't mean it will actually happen.

And directly from your linked "study..."

Moody’s analysis did not take into account the fiscal costs of adding more immigrants to the country: the cost of providing public goods like education, health care, welfare benefits, etc. Calculating the costs of an ever-changing group of people is incredibly complex, and estimates vary widely based on assumptions about immigrants’ average age, education level, number of children, and even legal status.

As a whole, immigrants tend to have more children, which means that state and local governments bear the burden of providing education. They also tend to have lower earnings, which means they pay less in taxes. The National Academies report found that in most scenarios, immigrants take in more in public services than they pay in taxes, especially at the state and local level. That said, because today’s immigrants are younger, working, and have more education than earlier immigrants, they “tend to be beneficial to federal finances in the short term,” according to the report. Because federal benefits largely go to the elderly, the people who really subtract from the budget, according to Hunt, are retired and collecting Social Security.



Any more links? Maybe from a peer reviewed journal?
 
Studies have shown a mass influx of immigration is a surefire way to increased economic growth.

If immigration benefits the move-to country, it must follow that the move-from country would likely feel an economic loss from losing some of their resources.

Wouldn't it therefore benefit Mexico, Honduras and other move-from countries to keep these economic resources to themselves?
 
If immigration benefits the move-to country, it must follow that the move-from country would likely feel an economic loss from losing some of their resources.

Wouldn't it therefore benefit Mexico, Honduras and other move-from countries to keep these economic resources to themselves?

Why is there no push to bring Americans to Central America? Diversity. Progressive values. Economic growth. But no one even considers this. Do you see how stupid you are toon? Your arguments don’t hold up. Damn i wish you would wake up but you are too dug in. On to the next fallacy!
 
That's an estimation by a left leaning group, not a study. Remember when Obamacare was going to save us $2,500 per year? That was also an estimation. I could give you charts regarding how you could get a second job and become a millionaire in 5 years, but that doesn't mean it will actually happen.

And directly from your linked "study..."

Moody’s analysis did not take into account the fiscal costs of adding more immigrants to the country: the cost of providing public goods like education, health care, welfare benefits, etc. Calculating the costs of an ever-changing group of people is incredibly complex, and estimates vary widely based on assumptions about immigrants’ average age, education level, number of children, and even legal status.

As a whole, immigrants tend to have more children, which means that state and local governments bear the burden of providing education. They also tend to have lower earnings, which means they pay less in taxes. The National Academies report found that in most scenarios, immigrants take in more in public services than they pay in taxes, especially at the state and local level. That said, because today’s immigrants are younger, working, and have more education than earlier immigrants, they “tend to be beneficial to federal finances in the short term,” according to the report. Because federal benefits largely go to the elderly, the people who really subtract from the budget, according to Hunt, are retired and collecting Social Security.



Any more links? Maybe from a peer reviewed journal?

It sounds like if I estimate that Toon is full of shit, I'd be on pretty safe ground.

I mean...can't be disproven.
 
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