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You understand that the far left and far right are the same thing, right? It’s a circle and both are batshit crazy and don’t represent mainstream Americans.
Nope. Whoever told you that lied. When a guy spouts Biff talking points and wants to shoot invader mexicans that's not the same thing as the far left.
“Horseshoe theory” - the Extreme ends never meet or overlap but come closer towards each other the more left/right you get.
Defending these hammer and sickle shitheads officially makes you a shithead too.
Thinking of politics as a flat earth 2D plane of left right is simplistic and dumb. It’s spherical and the far left/right inhabit the opposite side of that sphere from the rat of us - right next to each other - often overlapping in function if not form.
It’s obvious and you are propagating a lie that you’ve been told. Sad.
Twatwaffle, you are so full of bullshevick. There is no political "spectrum." It's actually more like a color wheel, with nazi thugs and antifvck thugs huddled together down at the bottom.
Russia supporting fascists just keep getting their asses beat, lol. Sorry not sorry.
Ignoring right wing hate and murder is simplistic. Ya'll need to quit defending it and ask why so many morons embrace those talking points and then go kill someone.
1. Who the fvck is y’all?
2. Show me where anyone is defending such things.
3. Why is it hard to say, “both commies and nazis suck and are horrible unAmerican losers.” ?
I mean that graphic looks super well researched and sourced, so I’m sure it doesn’t have any grey area it’s hammering into right/left binaries right?
I know you are trolling but I hope to God you aren’t dumb enough to seriously believe this.
1. The wingnuts in this thread that take issue with the graphic.
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"Defend" may be a bit much.... "explain away" or "whatabout" may be more accurate.
No, those are technically defenses.
3. My god, both. I hate them both, always have. I can't fathom why MAGA is so pro-commie with the Russia stuff. I can see how those antifa guys are anti-nazi but why commies? What have they done besides fight proudbois that I'm supposed to be pissed off about?
I didn't count all the marks in the meme, but McVeigh alone would fill up a chalkboard with those little marks. Sure a lot of crazy right wingers hopped up on MAGA messaging.... the El Paso shooter even parroted Biff's immigration INVASION!! talking points.
You do realize that you ceded any moral high ground the day you clamored on here for 6 hours for Trump to obliterate a couple hundred Iranians so as to flex some American muscle, right?
Your bloodlust and obsession with these body counts is disturbing. We need some red flags laws after all.
I clamored to obliterate a couple hundred iranians. Your fury is hardening your arteries. Try meditation.
Are you denying this fact? I could embarrass you by pulling up the thread where you were incensed that Trump hadn't started a shooting war, or you could just explain your moral authority to lecture others on body counts and your political victories that result.
Let he who has not clamored to obliterate a couple hundred Iranians cast the first stone.
Don't mind if I do:
Don't mind if I do:
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Anyone with a conscience would be embarrassed to type what you just did.Let he who has not clamored to obliterate a couple hundred Iranians cast the first stone.
Don't mind if do:
So pitiful that you're trying to explain away your fellow furious wingnuts killing people, but... okay I'll play.
Yeah, go ahead and embarrass me. Produce where I clamored to kill a couple hundred iranians.
You literally started a thread defending the “score” of antifa.
This just isn’t a very good troll.
Maybe you meant Trump should've bombed them but not killed anyone.
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I mean.... what a shameful i international disgrace for such hand wringing. If you do it, #*$&@ing do it.
Pulled the gun and couldn't shoot. I'm glad we're not at war but he is such a Willow in the Wind. Whoever gets to him last.
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It's an international disgrace, he's such a weak kneed, small man.
He doesn't know wtf he's doing. He has all this military presence there, for what? They shoot a flight down and... now what? Talk some more shit?
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The world knows to call his bluff. NK shit all over him, Iran is celebrating on tv parading the drone around, and he's dithering.
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So he parks the military there as a show of force to see if anybody wants some and... well, they do. So he... launches a strike and calls it back. HE called it back. There are also reports he literally called someone to warn Iran we were attacking.
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Now it's your turn to produce where I'm "trying to explain away your fellow furious wingnuts killing people". Good luck.
Let me guess, you'll bail on this like an invitation to a football tailgate because you can't wear your mask and carry your baton, and know this sort of behavior in front of real live people would have you cowering back to your partner explaining why your nose is busted and your shirt is ruined.
Sys talking to himself before he turns off the light tonight at bedtime. “What a great day. I really showed my ass.”
Maybe it's not a troll but actually makes a valid.point?
Find where I clamored to kill Iranians yet?
And no, I'm not a fighter, and don't want to fight anybody. Are you? Do you want to fight? Or are you just mad and want to see someone else beat me.up? Like that's your fantasy?
I confess this meme has me slightly baffled. It's probably me, I sometimes get easily confused. I may be mistaken, but is antifa not a singular organization operating under that name? Is it fair to say it is one of many "Left Wing" organizations and persons? Whereas the right of the chart says "Right Wing," which I assume means any person or group the author of the chart chooses to call right wing, not a singular right wing hate group like the left wing antifa. I don't pay much attention to body counts, probably a failing on my part, but the chart says right wingers have murdered 313 people in the last ten years. If that's true I agree it is shockingly high, but without detail the veracity of the chart is rather questionable, wouldn't you agree?
Lastly, assuming the chart is correct as regards people being murdered, and briefly setting that aside, would you not agree that the actions of antifa deserve to be righteously condemned because of their actions (rioting, injuring fellow human beings if not murdering them, millions of dollars of property damage)?
Let me pronounce my utter contempt for any right wing group or person that has murdered or caused injury to a fellow human being, or promulgated destruction of private (or public) property. As the song says "that's no way to treat a lady."
Now, despite the chart with which you began this thread, do you equally pronounce utter contempt for the actions of antifa and other left wing persons and groups that believe they are justified in promoting violence to achieve their desired political goals?
I got this thread confused with the other thread about being dumber for having read it.
Quite easy to do with any threaded started by or posted in by @Syskatine
Let me put it a different way. As I understand it Antifa is one splinter group among many organizations that would be considered Left Wing. It strikes me that it is unfair for the chart to compare one left wing hate group with the entirety of the right wing. It would be fairer, wouldn’t you agree, to compare one left wing group with one right wing group?
So let’s do that. Let’s compare the actions of Antifa to the John Birch Society. Surely you’ll agree they are as Right Wing as they come, many consider them to be far out kooky (although in my limited contact with them they have been very intelligent, docile, interested in persuasion, not violence.) I don’t know if they still have them, but back in the day they had reading rooms open to the public where they had volumes you could read by people like Mises and Hayek and Milton Friedman among others.
My point is they have been around for 50-60 years and I don’t think they’re responsible for a single murder and have not damaged any property or visited violence on anyone with whom they disagree. Antifa, on the other hand, has been around since maybe Occupy Wall Street, the catalyst of violence and destruction across the country. They employ the tactics of the infamous Brown Shirts of Germany, brutalizing innocent bystanders and burning and looting storefronts that are in their path.
So let’s make a chart that compares one Left Wing group, Antifa, with one Right Wing group, the Birch Society. Would you not consider that a fairer representation of Left vs Right?
I sensed that in the first five minutes of arriving here. He's definitely special needs.
Whew, that's a lot to unpack!
No, I don't think destroying property is the moral equivalent of killing people.
I don't know the exact body count of anyone or any "side" but I'm confident that the american right has a disproportionately higher body count than the American left.
Unless you count killing nazis. God we leftists could kill some nazis back in the day. We're good at it, Dan. As a country, kicking the shit out of nazis is in our blood. I'm glad to see that hasn't changed!
I am not asking for you to find a moral equivalence of murder to mayhem. I’m asking you to state publicly that you condemn the violence perpetrated by the Left with the same vigor with which you condemn violence perpetrated by the Right.
As a libertarian I have no problem opposing both sides for their tyrannical authoritarian tendencies. Both sides with equal vigor! Do you?
OP is weak, inconsequential.
I trudge through though for the comedic relief.
I trudge through though for the comedic relief.
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