http://thehill.com/policy/internati...ple-on-election-notes-differences-with-chavez
Not exactly a celebration, but he didn't have to say anything.
Not exactly a celebration, but he didn't have to say anything.
Congratulations Mr. Putin.
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I'm gonna put this perfect microcosm of the MAGA crowd's political speech in my sig when I have the time:
H.R. McMaster is 23 years old? What an unlucky advancing aging for the man.
And what happened to the “I hope Trump listens to those around him smarter than he is” stance?
at the end of the thread
this tripe plays better around the duck duck go water cooler, but i appreciate the contribution and opportunity for dialogue
this is what america is up against
I'm gonna put this perfect microcosm of the MAGA crowd's political speech in my sig when I have the time:
Maybe one of these would be better? =)
Is it your belief that this was the first instance of Russia purportedly poisoning someone in London or other foreign locales under Putin?
http://thehill.com/policy/internati...ple-on-election-notes-differences-with-chavez
http://www.latimes.com/la-fg-obama-americas20-2009apr20-story.html
Your memory must be short if you don't recall the numerous times Obama and his administration fawned over Hugo Chavez and his socialist regime.
I gave you two and tried avoiding those articles from sources you would disagree with on principle. If you need more, feel free to use Google yourself. There's hundreds if not thousands of associated links.
You gave me one where Obama congratulated the people on having an election though he had concerns about who they elected. Then you gave me one about Obama smiling with Chavez in a photograph and having the nerve to shake his hand.
When will you produce the fawning?
Ah yes because the circumstance is identical. You usually don't fail this hard.
The facts as I under stand them-
Despite the evidence of a(nother) Russian assassination attempt on foreign soil and the advice of his national security team - Trump legitimizes Putin's sham election congratulating him on his "victory".
What facts are you disputing?
I disagree with these facts. The president called and congratulated Putin on his victory, even if it was a sham election, just like many presidents have done before him. I've provided examples of Obama congratulating both Hugo Chavez and Putin in prior elections, and it wasn't nightly news fodder. But thanks to TDS, suddenly it matters.
Which of these assertions do you dispute?
- Trump congratulated Putin
- Putin's election was a sham
- Russia recently attempted an assassination in Britain
- Trump was advised by his national security team not to congratulate Putin
the fact that libtards slurp up MSM news like kidergartners at the icee machine
the fact that’s it’s talking point newsworthy
The day I hear Spetznaz take out Assad is the day I believe they’re helping in Syria lol.
TDS = Trump Diety Syndrome
TDS = Trump Diety Syndrome
Someone who bowed to foreign leaders promised the Russians “more flexibility.”
Listen to the recording:
Listen to the recording:
How would he know what a president does or doesn’t do?
Ouch...probably still stings.
Because Trump is a Putin puppet and a fool who won’t listen to the advice of those around him. It’s just yet another look at how stupid he is. Not the biggest blunder yet, won’t be the biggest - he’ll certainly do something even more stupid.
Trump is a lot of undesirable things - narcissist, asshole, womanizer, pathetic role model, poor leader, childish, and the list goes on.
One thing he definitely isn't is someone else's puppet.
Obama congratulated Putin on an election victory.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/barack-obama-vladimir-putin-congratulatory-call-2012/
I'm far more concerned about Trump's potential ties to the Russian mafia than his potential ties to Putin. Largely because the former is much more likely than the latter.
I think the line between Putin and Russian organized crime may not be as clear cut as your question contemplates.
Perhaps. But I despise hysteria and I have a thing about accuracy.
If Putin has control over the Russian mafia (which I doubt) then he's a much bigger concern.
If the Russian mafia has control over Putin (which I think is a bit more likely but still not most likely), then the Russian mafia is a bigger problem than I might guess right now.
If they co-exist in some sort of gentleman's agreement (as I currently suspect is more likely), then I care less about Trump's tweets about Putin.
Trump likes to insult people and make fun of them because for most adversaries it lays them bare - if they can back up their threats and bluster it's time to do so when publicly belittled. Almost none really can, so Trump persists in his effective but self-harming Twitter campaigns.
I think Putin is one of the few, if any, of our adversaries who definitely can and would back up threats and I think Trump also believes this, thus his play nice rhetoric.
I could be wrong - I'm looking at what seems most probable based on several factors.
Trump is incredibly flawed. I don't like him and never have. I don't despise him, however, and I voted for him knowing full well what I was getting and I haven't been surprised in the least - though I am frequently disappointed in what our two party system has wrought.
My calculus in November 2016 concluded that getting kicked in the nuts was preferable to getting castrated.
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