Comey hearing
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One thing everyone learned today and all Americans should agree: Trump is definitely vindicated for firing Comey. The head of the FBI should be fired if they leaked information to the press. I realize that is not why Trump fired him, but amazing that the head of the FBI would do this.
Doesn't matter if the leaking was illegal or not ... Americans deserve to have a better FBI leader.
Doesn't matter if the leaking was illegal or not ... Americans deserve to have a better FBI leader.
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Trump didn't fire trump much to Been Jammins chagrin.
Good God.
No. It's a somewhat successful attempt to chum the waters and delegitimize the election, keeping temporary confusion stirred up until midterm elections. The end.
Comey just admitted to breaching of classified documents. If he took notes of his conversations with the president they would automatically be classified and would need to go through a redaction procedure before release. In other words he just broke the law the same way Clinton did. That explains a lot.
1). Trump didn't fire Trump.
2). Comey didn't leak information to Trump unless I missed something (didn't watch all of his testimony)
3). If you are referring to Comey asking his friend to share his side of the story with the press, that happened after Comey had already been fired and after Trump claimed that something completely different had happened (and threw Comey under the bus). I don't see why this is an issue. You or I would have probably taken similar action if we were in Comey's shoes.
4). If that is what you are referring to, he was not the head of the FBI when he arranged for his story to be shared with the press.
Hey Been how did Russia influence me to vote for Trump? I like most people I know that voted for Trump did so because Hillary couldn't keep her lies straight. If Russia exposed this then I guess I don't understand the out cry. Now if they leaked some lie to the media and it was found out later not to be true then I guess I get your point. The one BIG reason Hillary lost was Comey reopening the FBI investigation. Unless I am confused when did Russia take over the FBI? I need to know because if Putin is in control of the FBI I am fooked.
How about some actual...you know....citation to relevant law and/or court decision there Chief? I don't believe there is a law that says any of what you claimed.
http://dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/520001_vol3.pdf
I will give you the DOD reg on this as I don't want to sift through FBI regs. See section 13 Working Papers as defined in its beginning as notes. I would expect the FBI to be similar.
Now if the president states anything that is classified in his his conversation with Comey and Comey took notes (working papers) they would need to be marked as the highest classification that he took notes on. Then he would need to store that classified in the same manner in which it was classified.
Now I have a hard time believing that the President of the US and the director of the FBI would have a conversation in which at least in part some of which was classified and if Comey took such copious notes as to record his conversations with the president those notes would be classified.
He then gives them to a professor to look at.
I know I didn't give you FBI or DOJ instructions. They will be internal to those departments and they will have them. I'm more familiar with finding DOD resources so I admit I took the easy way for me. However the FBI should have a similar policy add Comey should be familiar with DOD classification policy as well.
By the way I did enjoy listening to Comey tell us all about how he went into meetings with preconceived notions that Trump was going to lie. Oh and I'm not a chief don't insult Chiefs by lumping me in with them.
http://conservativetribune.com/come...tm_content=2017-06-08&utm_campaign=manualpost
Found this after but thought I would share. I'm not standing alone in my interpretation of events.
Found this after but thought I would share. I'm not standing alone in my interpretation of events.
Trump's words to Lester Holt regarding Comey firing:
"When I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, 'You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story,'" Mr. Trump said. "'It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won.'"
Yes, the spin is so unfair.
So where are the tapes?
On a scale of 1-10 (Frank is 10 and 1 is me) where is your level of support for Biff now?
Why are you so focused on questions like this lately?
I recently posted a summary of what I am happy with and unhappy with. Did you not come across that why you were researching my 40,000+ post posting history ?
I think he's doing a Great job of not being Hillary which gets him a five out of 10 without doing anything else.
Beyond that he's appointed a constitutionalist to the Supreme Court which gets him another point.
But to get over six on the scale for me I expect more.
One problem is that the Republican Congress is completely worthless. But that is an excuse because he is supposed to be a dealmaker. I expect to see some deals get mad I expect to see the swamp drained and I expect progress on healthcare tax reform and immigration reform. I'm not seeing that stuff yet.
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I love seeing how much he frustrates the establishment. That's really fun and enjoyable to soak up every single day. But I can't award points for that by itself.
Idiotic hyperbole and a ridiculous attempts to delegitimize the administration make it very easy to root for the guy. Ironically if he got a remotely fair shake from the national mainstream media I would personally judge him much more harshly than I probably do.
Idiotic hyperbole and a ridiculous attempts to delegitimize the administration make it very easy to root for the guy. Ironically if he got a remotely fair shake from the national mainstream media I would personally judge him much more harshly than I probably do.
i would add this russia thing fits the process
trump destroys both parties in 2016
repub leadership kisses ass on election
then runs and hides when it comes time to sack up and get er done
dems gaslight and stall hoping the joker pops in the interim
trump gets cleared and only loretta lynch gets stung
obamacare premiums go thru roof this fall
dems on heels
repub establishment gets foot in ass
here comes 2018
Not Hillary and judges are what he's doing great at. Not just Gorsuch either. He has nominated a lot of solid federal level judges.
1. I have this stupid habit of actually asking people's opinions instead of telling them what their opinions are like you and your conservative treehouse gang on here.
2. Sorry -- I didn't search your posts. I wanted to ambush you with such a hard question before Stinkfinger6 gave you the answer.
You are exactly right. The good thing is it will be a waste of time on their part. Seems like they can't learn that the American people are on to them and they just keep doubling down on stupid which got them into their current uber minority status to begin with.
Comey is crook to both sides. I am happy someone fired him. After his interview sleazy just reeked off him.
The only damning thing to come out of his hearing is the Lynch Clinton collusion. I bet the Dems didn't see that coming.
It's a hell of a gamble. And the downside is yuge. The political establishment and the MSM went all in on this after DNC email dump. Just think how bad it's going to get when it's proven that Seth Rich was the source. #TheResistance will become a scarlet letter.
I bet Lynch said something more to Comey than change "investigation" to "matter". She probably let him see the "other FBI file" they had on him.
But Lynch only secretly met with Bill on the tarmac to discuss grandchildren. Totally believable. No way Comey whitewashed that investigation.
So that's a no.
Even going by the 122 page document you linked and didn't cite any relevant provision you haven't established the accuracy your original claim that....
1. If he took notes of his conversations with the president they would automatically be classified and would need to go through a redaction procedure before release. In other words he just broke the law the same way Clinton did. That explains a lot.
In fact, your argument in response to request citation to law has changed significantly to....
Now if the president states anything that is classified in his his conversation......
So I still see lots of assumptions, shoulds, and legal conclusions without legal support.
Carry on.
So Trump's attorney, one of his Chief WH staff members, and Breitbart kinda sorta agree with you....but likewise doesn't cite any actual controlling legal authority.
That is VERY surprising.
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Unless the memos themselves disclose national security sensitive investigative information, there is no way that memorialization of a conversation where Trump asks, hopes, or directs the stoppage of an investigation or asks for loyalty would be a violation.
Everybody on both sides grasping at straws.
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"Everybody on both sides ....". Does that include you?So Trump's attorney, one of his Chief WH staff members, and Breitbart kinda sorta agree with you....but likewise doesn't cite any actual controlling legal authority.
That is VERY surprising.
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Unless the memos themselves disclose national security sensitive investigative information, there is no way that memorialization of a conversation where Trump asks, hopes, or directs the stoppage of an investigation or asks for loyalty would be a violation.
Everybody on both sides grasping at straws.
No.
I am not on either one of the binary (as indicated by the use of the term "both") sides to which I was referring.
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We are just all kinds of chippy tonight aren't we. It must be tough trying to breath under water.
You are fumbling and grasping at straws at every corner. You know you don't have be your own expert witness all the time and you do seem out of sorts as of late. You been feeling ok lately? Your not firing on all cylinders the way you used to. It's possible Trump is getting to you and effecting your judgement and arguement ability.
Yes an attorney agrees with me. That must get under your skin. And I'll take one of Trumps's WH chief of staff members over your arguments all day.
By the way you are not in the middle. You have clearly taken sides and you have an agenda just like everyone else. Your claims don't match your arguments and your I am center arguments have become old and stale.
Let me know when your investigation into nothing defines nothing as whatever you want it to be. Until then it's time to build a wall and get a hold of immigration.
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