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Britney Griner pleads guilty...Makes Brandon look stupid for saying she was not properly detained or arrested

I wonder what Griner's position is on refusing to stand for the Nation Anthem at her games is now? She officially requested that the National Anthem not be played at all at her games. She will be sentenced to about 8 years by the Russian system. I hear the US diplomatic service in Moscow is not devoting much time to her case.

i’m not doing eight years for carrying a stupidly minimal amount of thc
 
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i’m not doing eight years for carrying a stupidly minimal amount of thc
You would if you were caught is many different countries on this planet. In case you are not aware, US laws do not travel with you. You are obliged to obey the laws of the host country. It is your responsibility to know and understand the laws prior to entry.
 
You would if you were caught is many different countries on this planet. In case you are not aware, US laws do not travel with you. You are obliged to obey the laws of the host country. It is your responsibility to know and understand the laws prior to entry.
And for God's sake, if you are in a country that has a reputation for tolerating personal cannabis use, DON'T anyway. There is recreational in almost half the states at home now, and if you can't wait until you get back you have a personal problem. Some places will want to make an example of a few every year.

You can get your bong rips or gummies in Peoria...why risk getting them or even worse, bringing them into a place where the Bill of Rights is a foreign concept and where they can throw you in a deep, dark hole for as long as they feel like. If you are not a Britney Griner or some bratty, celebrity college jock, the U.S. Embassy will tell you "best of luck, sucks to be you."
 
You would if you were caught is many different countries on this planet. In case you are not aware, US laws do not travel with you. You are obliged to obey the laws of the host country. It is your responsibility to know and understand the laws prior to entry.

hence my walk on egg shells comment
 
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The longer this drags out the less I care. She admitted to having it in her bag, we aren't even getting the typical " they are making her admit to it" BS that you typically get in these overseas cases. It sucks that it's for such a minor thing however it is the law in Russia. If it was a relative of mine, I'd of course be fighting for some type of leniency but the saying my wife likes to use all the time applies here "play stupid games, win stupid prizes." I hope we don't trade an arms dealer for a pothead.
 
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I could be wrong but I took it to mean that one should be overly cautious when visiting Russia (in this case).

there woukd be no way for me to relax in a place like russia

not a judgement or condemnation of the country or people
 
there woukd be no way for me to relax in a place like russia

not a judgement or condemnation of the country or people


Totally agree. I have met many russian people, and they (those I have met) are such good people. I would love to vist russia, but, like egypt, a lot needs to change before visiting.
 
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Totally agree. I have met many russian people, and they (those I have met) are such good people. I would love to vist russia, but, like egypt, a lot needs to change before visiting.

Hijack alert: Sedco was the operator of a well drilled in the Western Desert, and as O&G Div Controller, got to make a trip to Cairo in the early/midish 80's (on my way to the Ivory Coast!). We obviously had staff there so was well supervised. :D Trip was during Ramadan, and remember going into the bowels of the Khan Khalili Bazaar while the sun was still up and no people around. Dark when we left a business and couldn't believe how things had come alive. Wow, just wow. Also got to visit Sadat's tomb while there, and stand next to a pyramid. Overall, a fantastic trip, that you couldn't pay me to take now.
 
I was in a GUPCO (Chevron Gulf) project site, on the Sinai on Oct 6, 1981 when Sadat was killed. My 2nd year of international employment. I still have the Cairo english newspaper from the next day. The client forced us to shutdown for a week or so. I have been to Egypt many times of biz and a couple of times on vacation but it was in the early 80s.
 
I went to Cairo for a week in summer 2017. Our company has a large office there.

I’m never all that comfortable in any foreign country but I was counting down the minutes until I got out of there.

I was sick as a dog when I landed in Munich (stupidly ate a salad about 30 hours before 2am departing flight) but the relief of being on the ground in Germany was palpable.
 
It was pretty safe travel at that time.
Yes, it was pretty safe in those times. I have been to a few places that were a much bigger security concern than Egypt. I was in Cairo in the early 90s and it was not good but not scary yet.

I landed in Damascus, Syria on the bright sunny midday of July 3, 1988 for a meeting with Al-Furat Oil (Shell) and Saipem (Italian) to start prelim thoughts on a subsea pipeline from Latakia, Syria to Taranto, Italy. I was detained at the airport for 24 hours without explanation. They rifled through my bags, smashed my Sony Walkman and ruined a few cassette tapes. I was escorted to the Hilton Hotel and placed under house arrest and restricted to the hotel grounds only. The US had no diplomatic ties to Syria. No embassy or consulate. The US worked through the Swiss Embassy on my situation. The proposed sponsor of our project was Jihad Kaddam, the eldest son of the sitting VP of Syria. I had met him several times in Dubai and Holland. He and his entourage came to the hotel. I was told that the USS Vincennes had shot down an Iranian Air commercial flight from Bandar Abbas to Dubai killing all 290 people on board on the morning of July 3rd. Kaddam had made arrangement for the "Swiss" (US CIA officer) to get me out of Syria once my passport had been retrieved. After a Swiss diplomatic flight to Amman, quizzed at the US Embassy for a day and I then caught a flight back home to Dubai. In 1989 I was granted the right to carry two 10 ten year passports with completely different numbers. I have had two passports ever since.
 
I bet that makes renewal a bit more complicated.

I actually had no idea it was possible to be granted permission for that.
I renew my passports in person and separately. The last time, 2013 & 2016, I renewed in Tucson at the state passport office. The approvals for my having two passports is apparently well documented in my State Department file. At US ports of entry I am often asked if I am carrying both passports once they dial me up on their computers. Having 2 ten year passports is very rare. Having 1 ten year and 1 three or four year passports is more common but in all cases one must show a travel history that warrants two passports. My 2013 passport is about 1.5 inches thick from adding extra pages to it.
 
Yes, it was pretty safe in those times. I have been to a few places that were a much bigger security concern than Egypt. I was in Cairo in the early 90s and it was not good but not scary yet.

I landed in Damascus, Syria on the bright sunny midday of July 3, 1988 for a meeting with Al-Furat Oil (Shell) and Saipem (Italian) to start prelim thoughts on a subsea pipeline from Latakia, Syria to Taranto, Italy. I was detained at the airport for 24 hours without explanation. They rifled through my bags, smashed my Sony Walkman and ruined a few cassette tapes. I was escorted to the Hilton Hotel and placed under house arrest and restricted to the hotel grounds only. The US had no diplomatic ties to Syria. No embassy or consulate. The US worked through the Swiss Embassy on my situation. The proposed sponsor of our project was Jihad Kaddam, the eldest son of the sitting VP of Syria. I had met him several times in Dubai and Holland. He and his entourage came to the hotel. I was told that the USS Vincennes had shot down an Iranian Air commercial flight from Bandar Abbas to Dubai killing all 290 people on board on the morning of July 3rd. Kaddam had made arrangement for the "Swiss" (US CIA officer) to get me out of Syria once my passport had been retrieved. After a Swiss diplomatic flight to Amman, quizzed at the US Embassy for a day and I then caught a flight back home to Dubai. In 1989 I was granted the right to carry two 10 ten year passports with completely different numbers. I have had two passports ever since.

Wow, my travels were fluff compared to that ordeal! As an aside, my oncologist's first name is Jihad. I laughed when I first saw it and told Ms. J., what could possibly go wrong with that first name. Fabulous doctor, that I will go to my grave thanking for all he's done/doing.
 
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Wow, my travels were fluff compared to that ordeal! As an aside, my oncologist's first name is Jihad. I laughed when I first saw it and told Ms. J., what could possibly go wrong with that first name. Fabulous doctor, that I will go to my grave thanking for all he's done/doing.
Your story is pleasant. I like pleasant stories about people that we have been socially indoctrinated to view as terrorist. I have identical experiences with Russians.

Our dictionaries are most wrong in defining Jihad. It is normally narrowly defined here as religious struggle or waging of holy wars. In the broader more accepted Arabic definition it can mean spiritual celebration or spiritual journey.
 
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