"Blacks for Trump" guy at the rally

[hollywood]

You probably saw him, tall black guy wearing a white t-shirt with the domain GODS2.com printed on it, standing behind Trump on the dais. Wholly crap, he's 300 lbs of crazy in a 200 lb sack. I am shocked that the Secret Service has allowed him to get so close, as he has shown up at least 6 times at various Trump rallies.

He only identifies himself as "Michael the Black Man" to the media, but has given interviews where he has given some background on himself. This guy was reportedly part of the Yahwey ben Yahwey cult that was started in Miami, FL by a man (born Hulon Mitchell, Jr.) who was born in Kingfisher, OK and who attended OU Law School, but did not graduate. (That's a story in and of itself.) Mitchell by all accounts had a genius level IQ, but was as crazed as a shit house rat, he died in 2007, after starting his black separatist/supremacist cult in 1979. He had been convicted of numerous crimes, including conspiracy to murder in that members of his cult were encouraged to kill a white person as part of their initiation and he was involved in urging his members to kill another member by decapitation.

Ol' "Michael" does not appear to be operating with a full deck (like his mentor) and if you go to the website, which defaults to honestfact.com you can read some of his rambling narratives and thoughts. His primary belief is that all racism flows from the "Cherokee Indians" who are actually Babylonians in disguise. Apparently, the Cherokees were organized by Joseph Smith and the Mormons (or is it the other way around, the website is a bit "hazy" on this subject) and all of the KKK and all of the former slave owners are Cherokees and/or Mormons. This also holds true for all the Republican politicians who do not fully support Trump, they are just Mormons/Cherokees who are descendants of Canaanites and cursed by God.

There's a few metric shit-tons of crazy on that website. It's kind of interesting to me as it's the same brand of crazy that ol' Yahwey ben Yahwey used to preach. Only, he's decided that it's now "Cherokees" and "Mormons" who are the devil's representatives on Earth, when Yahwey ben Yahwey just blamed generic white people.

view at your own risk: honestfact.com

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Have you ever seen a more lying ass demographic? It's constant. Lie, lie, lie to get what they want. Clumsy, obvious lies, but since they fall for it they expect everyone else will.

The black guy apparently follows Trump around, and he's prominently in camera view to advance the thesis that blacks love Trump. Every time, if you dig a little bit Trump and his toothless horde is pushing something dishonest. EVERY. TIME.

 

[Rdcldad]

You probably saw him, tall black guy wearing a white t-shirt with the domain GODS2.com printed on it, standing behind Trump on the dais. Wholly crap, he's 300 lbs of crazy in a 200 lb sack. I am shocked that the Secret Service has allowed him to get so close, as he has shown up at least 6 times at various Trump rallies.

He only identifies himself as "Michael the Black Man" to the media, but has given interviews where he has given some background on himself. This guy was reportedly part of the Yahwey ben Yahwey cult that was started in Miami, FL by a man (born Hulon Mitchell, Jr.) who was born in Kingfisher, OK and who attended OU Law School, but did not graduate. (That's a story in and of itself.) Mitchell by all accounts had a genius level IQ, but was as crazed as a shit house rat, he died in 2007, after starting his black separatist/supremacist cult in 1979. He had been convicted of numerous crimes, including conspiracy to murder in that members of his cult were encouraged to kill a white person as part of their initiation and he was involved in urging his members to kill another member by decapitation.

Ol' "Michael" does not appear to be operating with a full deck (like his mentor) and if you go to the website, which defaults to honestfact.com you can read some of his rambling narratives and thoughts. His primary belief is that all racism flows from the "Cherokee Indians" who are actually Babylonians in disguise. Apparently, the Cherokees were organized by Joseph Smith and the Mormons (or is it the other way around, the website is a bit "hazy" on this subject) and all of the KKK and all of the former slave owners are Cherokees and/or Mormons. This also holds true for all the Republican politicians who do not fully support Trump, they are just Mormons/Cherokees who are descendants of Canaanites and cursed by God.

There's a few metric shit-tons of crazy on that website. It's kind of interesting to me as it's the same brand of crazy that ol' Yahwey ben Yahwey used to preach. Only, he's decided that it's now "Cherokees" and "Mormons" who are the devil's representatives on Earth, when Yahwey ben Yahwey just blamed generic white people.

view at your own risk: honestfact.com

now that's the kind of hard hitting entertainment we can all appreciate

 

[windriverrange]

Wood so are you saying it was okay for him to get hit because he's a nutcase, all be it a nutcase that likes Trump, but one none the less?

He doesn't sound anymore unhinged then Hank "Guam will flip over" Johnson so is it okay to go slap him up side the head?

 

[ThorOdinson13]

Several called it right away. They had to move fast to discredit.

 

[hollywood]

Wood so are you saying it was okay for him to get hit because he's a nutcase, all be it a nutcase that likes Trump, but one none the less?

He doesn't sound anymore unhinged then Hank "Guam will flip over" Johnson so is it okay to go slap him up side the head?

Uhh, he was hit? I know nothing about that, if he was.

Doesn't change the fact that he was part of a racist cult that endorsed the notion of killing random white people as part of their initiation. Or that he is now promoting this notion that ALL racism in the USA can be squarely laid at the feet of the Cherokees and Mormons.

Seriously, did you even look at his website? If not, please do so and then come back here and tell me he's playing with a full deck.

I don't know where the hell you are getting what I posted was in somehow advocating or defending violence against the man. Like I said, if he was hit I had no knowledge of it whatsoever. I had read extensively about his mentor Yahwey ben Yahwey years ago and his brand of crazy and much of his "teachings?" are still on youtube.

In fact, my point largely was how the Secret Service was letting this freaking nut case get within a few feet of the president. I've been through the process a couple of times required to get close to a President and I'm shocked that this guy wasn't screened out and disqualified. Someone is asleep at the switch as this guy has been close to Trump numerous times and he's obviously mentally unstable based on viewing his website.

 

[hollywood]

Several called it right away. They had to move fast to discredit.

He's been known for quite a while as there have been a few articles on him over the last year or so. It's just this time, he got some really prominent placement.

Take a look at his website and then tell me if you think it's a good idea to let him within 10 ft or so of the President. It's like letting a former Manson Family member that close.

BTW, to show how long him being covered, here's an article from 2016 on this very topic.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/the-blacks-for-trump-guy-is-a-former-cult-member.html

And just so you have some idea of who his "charlie manson" was (Yahwey ben Yahwey) here's some info on him for people to review.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh_ben_Yahweh

http://articles.latimes.com/1992-05-28/news/mn-444_1_yahweh-murders-followers

http://www.yahwehbenyahweh.com/

So "Michael the Black Man" whose real name is apparently either Michael or Maurice Symonette is a one time member of a cult which advocated for the killing of white people to gain membership and whose leader he followed ended up in prison for the murders and attempted murders outlined above. And you think this is some kind of "frame up" to discredit him? He's basically the equivalent of Lynnette "Squeaky" Fromme and who knows when he may pull a squeaky and try and shoot the President.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

He's been known for quite a while as there have been a few articles on him over the last year or so. It's just this time, he got some really prominent placement.

Take a look at his website and then tell me if you think it's a good idea to let him within 10 ft or so of the President.

I didn't dispute anything. I just stated that it was called before the speech even ended.

 

[CBradSmith]

You can sure tell who's retired on this board and who isn't.

Novels and novels...

 

[windriverrange]

Wood, I did look at the website...and no doubt he is full blown nut job (as I said before). You are correct though. There was another Black guy with a MAGA hat on that was punched and the writer of the original article the original article was from NYT and the writer said that this guy and his white friend were arguing with protesters and that the black guy got in the bed of the truck while the white guy got in the truck and "turned the wheel like he was going to run over counter protesters." How the hell would the reporter know that?

Anyway, I stand corrected on the difference between the guy behind Trump and the guy whom got punched. This wouldn't be the first time (certainly not the last either) where some incredibly shady character was standing in the partial limelight behind a politician. So while he is full blown nuts, he has to be doing something right.

http://freebeacon.com/politics/anti-trump-protester-punches-african-american-man-phoenix-rally/

 

[TPOKE]

Nut job or not, he's Black, that's all that matters.

 

[CBradSmith]

Ever notice how libs get really possessive of "their" blacks when they show signs of thinking outside the narrative, and further JUMP at the chance to explain away when a black person isn't in lockstep with leftist agenda?

Anybody ever noticed that? I have. Plenty.
It's weird. Really...odd.

@ThorOdinson13
@HighStickHarry
@Medic007
@syskatine

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Ever notice how libs get really possessive of "their" blacks when they show signs of thinking outside the narrative, and further JUMP at the chance to explain away when a black person isn't in lockstep with leftist agenda?

Anybody ever noticed that? I have. Plenty.
It's weird. Really...odd.

@ThorOdinson13
@HighStickHarry
@Medic007
@syskatine

 

[CBradSmith]

Maybe we'll call that LibSplaining.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

Ever notice how libs get really possessive of "their" blacks when they show signs of thinking outside the narrative, and further JUMP at the chance to explain away when a black person isn't in lockstep with leftist agenda?

Anybody ever noticed that? I have. Plenty.
It's weird. Really...odd.

@ThorOdinson13
@HighStickHarry
@Medic007
@syskatine

It's a result of identity politics and viewing these groups as a monolithic collective instead of as individuals. It's the same reason all whites should have guilt for their privilege and past transgressions regardless of individual merit, belief, action, or the fact none of them today had anything to do with it. Infants are immediately guilty just for having been born with a certain skin color.

The ideology is truly sickening and should scare the socks off of everyone because who's turn is next in being named the great oppressor? The next monolithic collective who is at fault for the limited success of some group and unknowingly keeping them from success because said opressor simply breathes, works, and exists?

God help us all if these people ever gain full control and have the power of the state at their fingertips.

 

[Medic007]

Ever notice how libs get really possessive of "their" blacks when they show signs of thinking outside the narrative, and further JUMP at the chance to explain away when a black person isn't in lockstep with leftist agenda?

Anybody ever noticed that? I have. Plenty.
It's weird. Really...odd.

@ThorOdinson13
@HighStickHarry
@Medic007
@syskatine

I've always wondered why they ignore Native Americans, Indians (dot), and Asians as minorities. I'm guessing it's because they can't put them on the government tit and keep them there for the votes.

 

[CBradSmith]

It's a result of identity politics and viewing these groups as a monolithic collective instead of as individuals. It's the same reason all whites should have guilt for their privilege and past transgressions regardless of individual merit, belief, action, or the fact none of them today had anything to do with it. Infants are immediately guilty just for having been born with a certain skin color.

The ideology is truly sickening and should scare the socks off of everyone because who's turn is next in being named the great oppressor? The next monolithic collective who is at fault for the limited success of some group and unknowingly keeping them from success because said opressor simply breathes, works, and exists?

God help us all if these people ever gain full control and have the power of the state at their fingertips.

It's like Libs feel threatened when a black person doesn't toe the company line.

They (the leftists) gotta not only explain it to themselves, but they gotta explain the aberrant behaviour to others.

It's literally like they feel ownership. Like a rancher talks about a mischievous cow that keeps getting out.

Either they feel ownership or rejection. Those are the only 2 things I can think that would prompt leftists to trip over themselves explaining a black person taking an unsanctioned political stance.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

It's like Libs feel threatened when a black person doesn't for the company line.

They gotta not only explain it to themselves, but they gotta explain the aberrant behaviour to others.

It's literally like they feel ownership. Like a rancher talks about a mischievous cow that keeps getting out.

Either they feel ownership or rejection. Those are the only 2 things I can think that would prompt leftists to trip over themselves explaining a black person taking an unsanctioned political stance.

I don't think it's that at all. I think it's a result of cognitive dissonance. It challenges their ideology i.e., their belief system.

 

[CBradSmith]

I don't think it's that at all. I think it's a result of cognitive dissonance. It challenges their ideology i.e., their belief system.

Hence "threatened."

The leftist world construct is a fragile thing, making them, the leftists, fragile things.

You take out a support pillar of how they construct the world, it directly affects them personally.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

Hence "threatened."

The leftist world construct is a fragile thing, making them, the leftists, fragile things.

You take out a support pillar of how they construct the world, it directly affects them personally.

Yes, it threatens their belief system. I agree with the term.

Sorry, I was primarily responding to this peice.

It's literally like they feel ownership. Like a rancher talks about a mischievous cow that keeps getting out.

 

[imprimis]

Lots of money to be made and power to be had by keeping the plantation fully stocked. The only thing which seems to have changed is who the Master of the plantation is.

 

[Medic007]

This guy is a nightmare for "progressive" ideologues. If you've never watched his videos, they are very on point and damn funny at exposing the lefty race bullshit.

 

[Medic007]

Lots of money to be made and power to be had by keeping the plantation fully stocked. The only thing which seems to have changed is who the Master of the plantation is.

No, the master is still the exact same. It's the white Democrat elites, same as it's always been. The only difference is the appearance of the plantation.

 

[Medic007]

This video on the stupidity of white guilt might make a few folks around here have cerebrovascular accidents.

 

[hollywood]

Yes, clearly that's why I posted the original. Obviously, I feel that blacks "Belong" to the Democratic party and I couldn't possibly be at all trying to show my reaction to finding out that this guy is nucking futz.

In reality, it was finding out that he was connected to Yahwey ben Yahwey cult that threw me for a loop. I was well aware of the Yahwey black supremacist cult they operated in Miami, which for all intents and purposes was kind of a mix of a "black" KKK and the Manson family. Just seeing he was a long time member of the cult was something I had not expected. Then I read the nutcases website, which was truly a level of insanity I had not anticipated.

Obviously, the criticisms and reporting on the guy was ALL because of him showing up on TV supporting Trump. No one had ever said anything bad about him before, or questioned his mental state. (deep freaking blue)

Here's an article about him and his cult leader from 2011, detailing more about him. http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/yahweh-ben-yahweh-is-back-6381303

The guy is basically this era's version of "Rainbow Man"* someone who conspicuously tries to get himself on TV, then you find out that he's really a creep who should likely be in prison.

But hey, feel free to think that I posted because I am just trying to keep "the black man" down for him being a Trump supporter, and not because he's a dangerous, nut job.

*If you don't know, "Rainbow Man" was sentenced to three consecutive life sentences for a series of kidnappings. But I'm sure that all of you can find me guilty of bringing him up in this conversation because he used to go around getting on TV to show off his John 3:16 sign and I'm just engaged in another attack on Christianity. (Well, that is the same freaking "logic" you're applying to my post about Michael the Black Man, isn't it?)

 

[ThorOdinson13]

Yes, clearly that's why I posted the original. Obviously, I feel that blacks "Belong" to the Democratic party and I couldn't possibly be at all trying to show my reaction to finding out that this guy is nucking futz.

In reality, it was finding out that he was connected to Yahwey ben Yahwey cult that threw me for a loop. I was well aware of the Yahwey black supremacist cult they operated in Miami, which for all intents and purposes was kind of a mix of a "black" KKK and the Manson family. Just seeing he was a long time member of the cult was something I had not expected. Then I read the nutcases website, which was truly a level of insanity I had not anticipated.

Obviously, the criticisms and reporting on the guy was ALL because of him showing up on TV supporting Trump. No one had ever said anything bad about him before, or questioned his mental state. (deep freaking blue)

Here's an article about him and his cult leader from 2011, detailing more about him. http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/yahweh-ben-yahweh-is-back-6381303

The guy is basically this era's version of "Rainbow Man"* someone who conspicuously tries to get himself on TV, then you find out that he's really a creep who should likely be in prison.

But hey, feel free to think that I posted because I am just trying to keep "the black man" down for him being a Trump supporter, and not because he's a dangerous, nut job.

*If you don't know, "Rainbow Man" was sentenced to three consecutive life sentences for a series of kidnappings. But I'm sure that all of you can find me guilty of bringing him up in this conversation because he used to go around getting on TV to show off his John 3:16 sign and I'm just engaged in another attack on Christianity. (Well, that is the same freaking "logic" you're applying to my post about Michael the Black Man, isn't it?)

I'm fairly positive his comments were not aimed at you directly wood.

 

[Headhunter]

Put 20,000 people in an arena and you can find some really strange cats.

I give the guy credit for showing up early enough to get on stage every time.

 

[Medic007]

Yes, clearly that's why I posted the original. Obviously, I feel that blacks "Belong" to the Democratic party and I couldn't possibly be at all trying to show my reaction to finding out that this guy is nucking futz.

Yes, he appears to be peyote eating crazy. What do I need to do with this information?

The thread has obviously altered course. That's natural.

 

[MegaPoke]

Speaking of blacks for Trump. Antifa likes to punch them.

Disavow?

 

[GL97]

 

[GL97]

 

[Medic007]

Speaking of blacks for Trump. Antifa likes to punch them.

Disavow?

View embedded media

Apparently not. That damn black guy is ruining the Democratic hopefuls.

 

[Medic007]

Speaking of blacks for Trump. Antifa likes to punch them.

Disavow?

View embedded media

Our board undercover lefty "McNotToonTown" says he's not behind the recent attempts to minimize lefty violence. He's really not. Just ask him. He's a straight shooter.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

"McNotToonTown"

That's has to stick. Has to.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

LOL EVERY TIME. They find a token black to get behind Biff for the cameras and he's a wacko. It's so predictable. And while the entire black community -- like, everyone darker than chalk, is laughing, the Biffsniffs celebrate it. You take one layer off the onion and always expose these crazy morons.

I haven't looked at a poll (sorry - "Pole") but I'll confidently predict Biff has awful number with aa demo.

BUT THE CHICAGO MURDERS!!!!!
Why won't blacks vote republican?

 

[Medic007]

BUT THE CHICAGO MURDERS!!!!!

Yeah, those aren't real. Blacks killing blacks in insane numbers is some fake ass white cracker bullshit. But that one white girl dying in Charlottesville sure kicked up a lefty firestorm because she was protesting the right stuff.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Yeah, those aren't real. Blacks killing blacks in insane numbers is some fake ass white cracker bullshit. But that one white girl dying in Charlottesville sure kicked up a lefty firestorm because she was protesting the right stuff.

Right? I'm sure conservatives will stand in and really do something about it, too. It's used to demonize blacks and democrats without any constructive action for how many republican congresses and administrations? Big opportunity. Fix it. Show blacks conservatives give a shit. I'll hold my breath and watch you and your comrades continue to push a narrative that only alienates and divides, as usual.

 

[Medic007]

Right? I'm sure conservatives will stand in and really do something about it, too. It's used to demonize blacks and democrats without any constructive action for how many republican congresses and administrations? Big opportunity. Fix it. Show blacks conservatives give a shit. I'll hold my breath and watch you and your comrades continue to push a narrative that only alienates and divides, as usual.

Hard for a conservative to fix them when Democrats control those murderous shitholes. Any other brilliant points you want to share?

Speaking about the gang violence and its casualties only alienates and divides because you and your comrades want to paint the issue in shades of racism instead of reality. Chicago isn't going to get better because the Democrats who run it don't give a shit about anything other than the votes to stay in power. In fact, you dipshits have made it worse with the "cops are racist" narrative. People don't want to work as police officers in cities with shitty leadership.

This is fun.

 

[hollywood]

Why are you guys so hung up on the Chicago homicide rate?

The honest truth is Chicago for the last 8 yrs, has had a far lower (avg) of homicides than it did for most of the 70's and 90's. This notion that crime has just "exploded" in Chicago is simply not true when viewed through the historical lens.

In fact, the homicide rate for the last decade is almost ONE HALF of what it used to be. (with 2016 being a anomaly).

Homicide Rate (Chicago)

1970: 810
1971: 824
1972: 711
1973: 862
1974: 970
1975: 818
1976: 814
1977: 823
1978: 787
1979: 856

1990: 851
1991: 928
1992: 943
1993: 855
1994: 931
1995: 828
1996: 796
1997: 761
1998: 704
1999: 643

2006: 471
2007: 448
2008: 513
2009: 459
2010: 436
2011: 435
2012: 516
2013: 441
2014: 432
2015: 468
2016: 762

BTW, the 80's weren't much better, with the lowest homicide total being 668 in 1982 and the highest total being 877 in 1981.

Sorry, but your narrative just doesn't really fly in the face of objective evidence.

 

[Medic007]

Why are you guys so hung up on the Chicago homicide rate?

The honest truth is Chicago for the last 8 yrs, has had a far lower (avg) of homicides than it did for most of the 70's and 90's. This notion that crime has just "exploded" in Chicago is simply not true when viewed through the historical lens.

In fact, the homicide rate for the last decade is almost ONE HALF of what it used to be. (with 2016 being a anomaly).

Homicide Rate (Chicago)

1970: 810
1971: 824
1972: 711
1973: 862
1974: 970
1975: 818
1976: 814
1977: 823
1978: 787
1979: 856

1990: 851
1991: 928
1992: 943
1993: 855
1994: 931
1995: 828
1996: 796
1997: 761
1998: 704
1999: 643

2006: 471
2007: 448
2008: 513
2009: 459
2010: 436
2011: 435
2012: 516
2013: 441
2014: 432
2015: 468
2016: 762

BTW, the 80's weren't much better, with the lowest homicide total being 668 in 1982 and the highest total being 877 in 1981.

Sorry, but your narrative just doesn't really fly in the face of objective evidence.

So 762 in 2016 is palatable to you? Does the fact that the 2017 number to date is 464, already passing the yearly totals for some of the years you listed and it's still August? How many does it take to make you cringe?