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Autopsy of a dead coup

You should feel that way as a member of the general public. Government employees making plans above their pay grade is a problem.
As a member of the public, a couple of guys thinking about mentioning the 25th amendment to select cabinet members doesn't bother me. "Hey if you think this guy has lost it, the constitution gives you options." is appropriate in my opinion.
 
I'm still hung up on all the indictments and guilty pleas and Manafort convictions. WTF is MAGA gloating about? All these people lying about their Russia connections getting convicted of everything and.... they're cleared? Huh?
 
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As a member of the public, a couple of guys thinking about mentioning the 25th amendment to select cabinet members doesn't bother me. "Hey if you think this guy has lost it, the constitution gives you options." is appropriate in my opinion.

Yeah, that's why none of them will own it in front of congressional hearings, can't remember who said what, or have denied it ever took place.
 
Yeah, that's why none of them will own it in front of congressional hearings, can't remember who said what, or have denied it ever took place.
Is this true? Sounds like McCabe is talking about it pretty openly.
 
I'm still hung up on all the indictments and guilty pleas and Manafort convictions. WTF is MAGA gloating about? All these people lying about their Russia connections getting convicted of everything and.... they're cleared? Huh?
Show me where one person who is not a Russian has been charged or convicted with a crime involving Russia and the 2016 campaign?
 
Show me where one person who is not a Russian has been charged or convicted with a crime involving Russia and the 2016 campaign?

you just don’t get it

muellers in the asking questions he already has the answers to phase

and after raiding potus atty office and sending him to jail on unrelated charges

don’t we all know what this investigation is truly about

and where this investigation stands
 
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I'm still hung up on all the indictments and guilty pleas and Manafort convictions. WTF is MAGA gloating about? All these people lying about their Russia connections getting convicted of everything and.... they're cleared? Huh?

Seriously. Try introspection. Examine the possibility that you are wrong and that A: every campaign would have process crimes if examined tonthis degeee. B: there are no indictments or convictions that have anything to do with Trump colluding. C: there will be none and Mueller will simply echo tr findings of the intel committee. D: the wrongdoing was against Trump.

Just try it. It would be so interesting to get you off the Orange man bad mythology and have an actual discussion.
 

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you just don’t get it

muellers in the asking questions he already has the answers to phase

and after raiding potus atty office and sending him to jail on unrelated charges

don’t we all know what this investigation is truly about

and where this investigation stands
Sure I get it the plan is to use Russia as an excuse to tear Trump, his family and associates apart until they find something, anything they can call a crime and remove him from office.
 
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How about laying out your evidence?

The Russia thing is a hoax and the people that believe it's true can't accept Trump beat Hillary. There must be something more than she was a super flawed candidate.
He apparently didn’t get the talking points update.
 
Sure I get it the plan is to use Russia as an excuse to tear Trump, his family and associates apart until they find something, anything they can call a crime and remove him from office.

so you’re saying it’s a witch-hunt?
 
As a member of the public, a couple of guys thinking about mentioning the 25th amendment to select cabinet members doesn't bother me. "Hey if you think this guy has lost it, the constitution gives you options." is appropriate in my opinion.

Define lost it.

Oops sorry forgot who I was talking to.
 
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Seriously. Try introspection. Examine the possibility that you are wrong and that A: every campaign would have process crimes if examined tonthis degeee. B: there are no indictments or convictions that have anything to do with Trump colluding. C: there will be none and Mueller will simply echo tr findings of the intel committee. D: the wrongdoing was against Trump.

Just try it. It would be so interesting to get you off the Orange man bad mythology and have an actual discussion.

A. Last week I dug into one random talking point, i.e. that illegal aliens killed at a higher rate than natives. I looked at the first data point I could find and it was bullshit. Not sourced if you look at the source, and inflated if you consider the alternative (Cato) study to be reliable.

This week, it's the talking point of "process crimes." Manafort was his campaign manager and wasn't convicted merely of "process crimes." Instead of your lying wingnut sources, here's a rare
glimpse into objective fact for you: 5 tax fraud, one failure to report foreign banking, and two for bank fraud. He was taking Russian money and wiring it in and not declaring it as income BEFORE the campaign. Lying to banks when the income dried up. Living lavishly. And it was 11-1 verdict on a host of others. I know -- the 1 was right and the 11 were wrong.

I guess perjury and "process crimes" are not that bad? I'll bet some were even pled on Tuesdays.

B. That's 1) arguable, and 2) so? Whitewater set a precedent, its ALL on the table. Unfair, but there it is.
 
I don’t understand it, I need it explained to me. Do you mind?
Read the 25th amendment. What must be declared in order for the Vice President to immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President?
 
Read the 25th amendment. What must be declared in order for the Vice President to immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President?

Dude I read it, but it’s a bunch of lawyer words. I did not see “lost it” so I asked the originator of the statement to tie the two things together. Do you mind?
 
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