AOC is right about the electoral college.
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So that’s two more major leftist idiots in favor of abolishing the electoral college. Noted.
What's next US Senate representation? Why should Wyoming have the same representation as a large population state like California?
AOC, a 13 year old mind in a 28 year old body.
Lol. Anything that moron says has to be wrong, she is part of the Squad of 4 C's.
Probably because you are pretty fvcking stupid.
If the left thought that 80% of the illegal/legal immigrants would vote GOP there'd be a wall from California to Texas and 2,000 coast guard boats patrolling the Gulf.
Her quote about it being a tool to oppress minorities is comical as EC has been the law of the land for longer than minorities could even vote.
I dunno.... she makes a point about people wanting their votes to count more. Affirmative action anybody?
That idea has already been circulating among lesser members of the Authoritarian, err, Democrat Party.
If they ever successfully eliminate the Electoral College, they’ll start working on that next.
Cons like winning with a minority of the vote. Nothing more. Minority rule. As always. The intellectual heirs of slavery still want minority rule.
What's sad is that if we actually had real 'states' rights anymore, I could actually consider a move to eliminate the EC. But the founding fathers created the EC so smaller and rural states wouldn't be dominated in government by larger urban states (like Virginia and Pennsylvania at the time). And as we've continued to consolidate power at the federal level, I'm thankful every day for their foresight.
Wow. Epic fail, and that saying something considering that it originated from Syskatine’s Extreme Culture of Failure.
The Democrat party is the heir of slavery. The Democrat calls to secede from the union after the election of Donald Trump echoes the calls of Democrats in the south following the election of Abraham Lincoln. The only difference between now and then is that a growing segment of your party now aspires to enslave everyone in the communist/fascist/authoritarian dream that your leaders continuously harp about,
Not that your comment has any merit but I thought you leftist were the protectors of the minority.
The founders created our Country as a Republic and not a straight Democracy specifically to insure a majority of misinformed, power hungry people didn't control government.
You do realize that every state and almost 100% of all office holders from school boards, city, state and federal office holders in the Jim Crow south were Democrats for 100+ years after 1865?
You couldnt get elected dog catcher if you werent Democrat in the south.
Had we had a democracy instead of a republic the south would of banded together and voted in southern racists to the Presidency and this country would of been another South Africa.
Lol so? Of what relevance is that? How have you guys been doing with the minority vote? Love how you default to a 150+ year old talking point like a bornfollower because one of your incel thought leaders. Came up with it.
You chastise another poster for using a point from 150 years ago and then in your very next post turn around and use another talking point from 150 years ago. Maybe next time you will not be so obvious.
As per usual, you are full of crap.
"The founding fathers, said Lincoln, had opposed slavery. They adopted a Declaration of Independence that pronounced all men created equal. They enacted the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 banning slavery from the vast Northwest Territory. To be sure, many of the founders owned slaves. But they asserted their hostility to slavery in principle while tolerating it temporarily (as they hoped) in practice. That was why they did not mention the words "slave" or "slavery" in the Constitution, but referred only to "persons held to service." "Thus, the thing is hid away, in the constitution," said Lincoln, "just as an afflicted man hides away a wen or a cancer, which he dares not cut out at once, lest he bleed to death; with the promise, nevertheless, that the cutting may begin at the end of a given time." The first step was to prevent the spread of this cancer, which the fathers took with the Northwest Ordinance, the prohibition of the African slave trade in 1807, and the Missouri Compromise restriction of 1820. The second was to begin a process of gradual emancipation, which the generation of the fathers had accomplished in the states north of Maryland.
"Here's what Lincoln said of the Founding Fathers in his 1854 Peoria speech:
The argument of "Necessity" was the only argument they ever admitted in favor of slavery; and so far, and so far only as it carried them, did they ever go. They found the institution existing among us, which they could not help; and they cast blame upon the British King for having permitted its introduction. BEFORE the constitution, they prohibited its introduction into the north-western Territory---the only country we owned, then free from it. AT the framing and adoption of the constitution, they forbore to so much as mention the word "slave" or "slavery" in the whole instrument. In the provision for the recovery of fugitives, the slave is spoken of as a "PERSON HELD TO SERVICE OR LABOR." In that prohibiting the abolition of the African slave trade for twenty years, that trade is spoken of as "The migration or importation of such persons as any of the States NOW EXISTING, shall think proper to admit," &c. These are the only provisions alluding to slavery. Thus, the thing is hid away, in the constitution, just as an afflicted man hides away a wen or a cancer, which he dares not cut out at once, lest he bleed to death; with the promise, nevertheless, that the cutting may begin at the end of a given time. Less than this our fathers COULD not do; and NOW [MORE?] they WOULD not do. Necessity drove them so far, and farther, they would not go. But this is not all. The earliest Congress, under the constitution, took the same view of slavery. They hedged and hemmed it in to the narrowest limits of necessity.
"In 1794, they prohibited an out-going slave-trade---that is, the taking of slaves FROM the United States to sell.
"In 1798, they prohibited the bringing of slaves from Africa, INTO the Mississippi Territory---this territory then comprising what are now the States of Mississippi and Alabama. This was TEN YEARS before they had the authority to do the same thing as to the States existing at the adoption of the constitution.
"In 1800 they prohibited AMERICAN CITIZENS from trading in slaves between foreign countries---as, for instance, from Africa to Brazil.
"In 1803 they passed a law in aid of one or two State laws, in restraint of the internal slave trade.
"In 1807, in apparent hot haste, they passed the law, nearly a year in advance to take effect the first day of 1808---the very first day the constitution would permit---prohibiting the African slave trade by heavy pecuniary and corporal penalties.
"In 1820, finding these provisions ineffectual, they declared the trade piracy, and annexed to it, the extreme penalty of death. While all this was passing in the general government, five or six of the original slave States had adopted systems of gradual emancipation; and by which the institution was rapidly becoming extinct within these limits.
"Thus we see, the plain unmistakable spirit of that age, towards slavery, was hostility to the PRINCIPLE, and toleration, ONLY BY NECESSITY.
"In Lincoln's famous 1860 Cooper Union speech, he noted that of the 39 framers of the Constitution, 22 had voted on the question of banning slavery in the new territories. Twenty of the 22 voted to ban it, while another one of the Constitution's framers--George Washington--signed into law legislation enforcing the Northwest Ordinance that banned slavery in the Northwest Territories. At Cooper Union, Lincoln also quoted Thomas Jefferson, who had argued in favor of Virginia emancipation: "It is still in our power to direct the process of emancipation, and deportation, peaceably, and in such slow degrees, as that the evil will wear off insensibly...."
"To be sure, the Founding Fathers weren't abolitionists. But they were overwhelmingly antislavery."
https://www.npr.org/2011/07/06/137647715/weekly-standard-founding-fathers-opposed-slavery
Typical con, bornfollower talking point. We had slavery well before and after independence and the constitution plainly accomodated slavery. You really need some education outside of the weekly standard.
Can't break 20% of black vote and calling dems racist.
Hate history so just lie about it.
You still running this fake BS?Lol so? Of what relevance is that? How have you guys been doing with the minority vote? Love how you default to a 150+ year old talking point like a bornfollower because one of your incel thought leaders. Came up with it.
You have no integrity.
Maybe move to Wyoming and quit trying to shit on the Constitution?
If Sys doesn't like the history he just ignores it and continues on with his distorted views of history.
Typical response of a wannabe commie, whose ideology slaughtered over 100 million people in the last century alone. Sorry, but white men fought, died and spilled their blood in a war to free men from slavery in this country. Your ideology cannot enslave men fast enough.
You have to lie and make strawmen to respond. Pitiful example of inability to engage logically.
@wyomingosualum what Biff did is convince simpletons like this sooner dipshit that strawman arguments and personal attacks are valid discourse.
He’s not a commie. He’s a tone deaf troll. Zero chance he really believes 90% of what he posted in this thread. He just giggles and sips on his White Claw while his little dick beaters peck out annoying propaganda.
It should be embarrassing to syskatine that the Democrats want to do shit like allowing felons, 16 year olds, and illegals to vote to try to win elections instead of coming up with sensible and sound policies that will attract voters. That's the kind of crap communist regimes do to get power.
Oh brother. You’re still going to buy me a fake beer someday, right?
Lol so? Of what relevance is that? How have you guys been doing with the minority vote? Love how you default to a 150+ year old talking point like a bornfollower because one of your incel thought leaders. Came up with it.
Funny, you selectively leave out the paragraph before this quote, where he states that he's describing the Democratic party history.
And that mitigates this how? I'm not sure that the black vote really reflects this view that dems are the racists.
Very easy to see.
Over and over.
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