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Any progress on cracking down on losing to Chinese in trade?

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An action-oriented POTUS like Trump with a republican congress behind him and all the support he claims probably has those Chinese really reforming their trade policies by now.
 
Apparently...from the fire Mueller thread...that's not why people voted for Trump.
 
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Numerous trade deals have already been reached with China on things like them buying American rice, beef and other products.

A good start and something Obama couldn't or wouldn't do.
 
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If it gets done on his watch, he gets the credit or blame.

All Obama ever took was the credit and pushed all the blame on Bush, Bush, Bush.
 
I am still searching for a positive thing that happened on BO's watch?

He kept us safe.

We killed the guy behind 911.

Stop. That alone is a stark contrast between the prior guy that literally gave up on getting OBL and said getting him was not a priority. Obama went after the guy behind 911. Dubya failed and said it wasn't a priority. But wait -- there's more!

We got out of the Dumbya recession.

We didn't have another recession.

The chinese trade imbalance measures that Head is so proud of were apparently negotiated during Obama's tenure.

Millions more people now are insured than before.

Gay marriage I guess. Doesn't really get my blood pumping but it's probably overdue.

That's what got done with constant republican obstruction.

I'm still searching for a positive thing that conservatives have accomplished in the last 20 years. They've had the presidency, house and senate multiple times, all together, so there should be some doozies.
 
All I want is repeal.

Replace will be a crap show no matter which party passes it.

Didn't you have the life altering, chronically ill family member dynamic for a while? (If I'm confusing you with someone else (and I may be) forgive me.) If so, how do you think chronically ill people should get medical care?
 
Didn't you have the life altering, chronically ill family member dynamic for a while? (If I'm confusing you with someone else (and I may be) forgive me.) If so, how do you think chronically ill people should get medical care?

Yes I do. She's covered.

Obamacare didn't make things cheaper. In fact, coverage and care is now worse. Deductible is higher and I'm still in debt.

Finding a way to get the price of medicine down to where it is in the rest of the world would be a great start. Then again, we all know that won't happen because Republicans and Democrats are all bought and paid for by the Big pharmaceutical companies.
 
Finding a way to get the price of medicine down to where it is in the rest of the world would be a great start.

Well they didn't do it with "conservative, free market solutions." How you can simultaneously call for lower health care costs while enabling the big business, squeeze-all-you-can ethos is beyond me. It makes no sense.
 
Well they didn't do it with "conservative, free market solutions." How you can simultaneously call for lower health care costs while enabling the big business, squeeze-all-you-can ethos is beyond me. It makes no sense.

Either way, we're screwed.

I have no confidence in either party in steering us through this mess and doing what's best for common American people.
 
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Either way, we're screwed.

I have no confidence in either party in steering us through this mess and doing what's best for common American people.

Do you know what the Clinton tried to do in 1992?? And who fought her tooth and toenail? And what Obama wanted to do? And who fought him tooth and toenail? How can you say that? Now compare that to what the republicans have done.

The GOP has never done shit. It's one of two things Biff got right. Conservatives demonize and obstruct every democrat that tries. And before you blame Obama, you remember who obstructed him the whole way and the compromises he had to make. I didn't like Obmamacare either at first because it was a sell-out to the health insurance industry. That's all he could get through, though. It is just insane for you to rip the only party that's tried to do something about it.
 
Do you know what the Clinton tried to do in 1992?? And who fought her tooth and toenail? And what Obama wanted to do? And who fought him tooth and toenail? How can you say that? Now compare that to what the republicans have done.

The GOP has never done shit. It's one of two things Biff got right. Conservatives demonize and obstruct every democrat that tries. And before you blame Obama, you remember who obstructed him the whole way and the compromises he had to make. I didn't like Obmamacare either at first because it was a sell-out to the health insurance industry. That's all he could get through, though. It is just insane for you to rip the only party that's tried to do something about it.

Obama's plan wasn't going to make things better. More money, more inefficiency, and more taxes to an already overtaxed citizenry. The IRS penalty for non-participation is complete BS!

More Great Society BS that never solves the problem and only creates a larger dependent class.
 
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Obama's plan wasn't going to make things better. More money, more inefficiency, and more taxes to an already overtaxed citizenry. The IRS penalty for non-participation is complete BS!

More Great Society BS that never solves the problem and only creates a larger dependent class.

Watch -- if there's single payer some day the conservatives will bitch and moan about the healthy having to pay something. They'll expect the old and infirmed to somehow constitute a self-sustaining class of insureds.

"More taxes" are bad, but "more premiums" are not, I guess. Funny how nobody wants to bring up the exploding premiums for years before Obamacare. You'd think that rising premiums are new if you listened to conservatives.
 
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Watch -- if there's single payer some day the conservatives will bitch and moan about the healthy having to pay something. They'll expect the old and infirmed to somehow constitute a self-sustaining class of insureds.

"More taxes" are bad, but "more premiums" are not, I guess. Funny how nobody wants to bring up the exploding premiums for years before Obamacare. You'd think that rising premiums are new if you listened to conservatives.

Everyone had been complaining about the higher premiums. (I don't know that the GOP was listening, however.)

I really think most pols in DC are more concerned with playing Words with Friends and keeping up with Facebook than they are doing any actual work.

Hey, I got a pic for you.

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Everyone had been complaining about the higher premiums. (I don't know that the GOP was listening, however.)

I really think most pols in DC are more concerned with playing Words with Friends and keeping up with Facebook than they are doing any actual work.

Hey, I got a pic for you.

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Take some pictures of rural Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, and across the south and get back with me regarding great, conservative, limited government. You don't have to go to Hiroshima or Detroit. Compare Hiroshima's before and after with 100 rural Oklahoma towns where there's no "big government policies."
 
Take some pictures of rural Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, and across the south and get back with me regarding great, conservative, limited government. You don't have to go to Hiroshima or Detroit. Compare Hiroshima's before and after with 100 rural Oklahoma towns where there's no "big government policies."

Do you attribute flight from OK rural towns to limited government as opposed to general migration trends to cities/opportunities?
 
Take some pictures of rural Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, and across the south and get back with me regarding great, conservative, limited government. You don't have to go to Hiroshima or Detroit. Compare Hiroshima's before and after with 100 rural Oklahoma towns where there's no "big government policies."
Compare large cities to rural small towns? Yeah, sounds like a legit comparison.
 
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Finding a way to get the price of medicine down to where it is in the rest of the world would be a great start. Then again, we all know that won't happen because Republicans and Democrats are all bought and paid for by the Big pharmaceutical companies.

It would be interesting to look at what countries "in the rest of the world" you are talking about and what they have in common with each other that is different than the US.

I'm not advocating for this, but the answer might end up being "universal health care" acts...I dunno.
 
If it gets done on his watch, he gets the credit or blame.

All Obama ever took was the credit and pushed all the blame on Bush, Bush, Bush.
You got a quote or something to back that up... that BHO blamed Bush for anything? Serious question.
 
Everyone had been complaining about the higher premiums. (I don't know that the GOP was listening, however.)

I really think most pols in DC are more concerned with playing Words with Friends and keeping up with Facebook than they are doing any actual work.

Hey, I got a pic for you.

20246368_1551514908220073_2237451807175859064_n.jpg
Any sense of who rebuilt or how they funded Hiroshima? You advocating a Marshall Plan for Americas inner cities?
 
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He kept us safe.

We killed the guy behind 911.

Stop. That alone is a stark contrast between the prior guy that literally gave up on getting OBL and said getting him was not a priority. Obama went after the guy behind 911. Dubya failed and said it wasn't a priority. But wait -- there's more!

We got out of the Dumbya recession.

We didn't have another recession.

The chinese trade imbalance measures that Head is so proud of were apparently negotiated during Obama's tenure.

Millions more people now are insured than before.

Gay marriage I guess. Doesn't really get my blood pumping but it's probably overdue.

That's what got done with constant republican obstruction.

I'm still searching for a positive thing that conservatives have accomplished in the last 20 years. They've had the presidency, house and senate multiple times, all together, so there should be some doozies.
I disagree with everything nice you said about Obama. But you nailed the last paragraph. Nailed it to the wall! What is a conservative in today's world?
 
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Supply/demand? Price the market will bear? What says @Ponca Dan on these calls for price control by the federal government?
I'm not sure what you're asking. Do I advocate supply/demand? Well, it's an economic basic law, so, yes, I advocate that we let the law do its thing. Calls for government mandated price controls? No, I'm opposed to that notion. I posted a link to a very long article a few days ago. I wish more people would have read it. Deep into the article the guy points to six fundamental needs humans must have to survive. (Sorry, I'm an old man, I don't remember what they are.). Anyway he points out that two of them have been assumed to be under the purview of government, two have been basically left to the private sector, and the remaining two have become a partnership between public and private entities. Not surprisingly (to me) the prices of the two government run entities have risen, while the quality has stagnated. The price of the entities controlled by private enterprise has dropped sharply, while quality has soared. While the price and quality of the remaining two has stayed about the same. For that reason I would obviously prefer the private sector to control all economic decisions, including health care. But I recognize I am in a decided minority. I'll (we'll) be stuck with the health care decisions of the political majority. There's nothing I can do about it. So I'll leave it to you statists to fight it out.
 
I'm not sure what you're asking. Do I advocate supply/demand? Well, it's an economic basic law, so, yes, I advocate that we let the law do its thing. Calls for government mandated price controls? No, I'm opposed to that notion. I posted a link to a very long article a few days ago. I wish more people would have read it. Deep into the article the guy points to six fundamental needs humans must have to survive. (Sorry, I'm an old man, I don't remember what they are.). Anyway he points out that two of them have been assumed to be under the purview of government, two have been basically left to the private sector, and the remaining two have become a partnership between public and private entities. Not surprisingly (to me) the prices of the two government run entities have risen, while the quality has stagnated. The price of the entities controlled by private enterprise has dropped sharply, while quality has soared. While the price and quality of the remaining two has stayed about the same. For that reason I would obviously prefer the private sector to control all economic decisions, including health care. But I recognize I am in a decided minority. I'll (we'll) be stuck with the health care decisions of the political majority. There's nothing I can do about it. So I'll leave it to you statists to fight it out.
You like the gubment picking winners and losers? Carrier wins with tax incentives without actually doing much different than they would have otherwise done. Bueno o no bueno?
 
You like the gubment picking winners and losers? Carrier wins with tax incentives without actually doing much different than they would have otherwise done. Bueno o no bueno?
Is that a trick question? Let me be clear: I don't like government "solutions" to economic matters. Laissez faire for me.
 
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