Another vehicle attack in London, with a twist

[Medic007]

Looks like someone drove their van into a crowd outside a mosque in London. Multiple casualties. The crowd consisted of Mislim worshippers leaving the mosque after services. Driver reportedly was arrested and was described by witnesses as a white male.

Retaliatory attack?

 

[JimmyBob]

OMG! MSM having too many orgasms to measure on the Richter Scale; honky limey attacks innocent devouts.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

 

[ThorOdinson13]

This is an Imam that has been speaking out. He thinks Europe is near boiling point after tonight.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

 

[wyomingosualum]

Wow. Maybe it really was a Methodist this time.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

Wow. Maybe it really was a Methodist this time.

Maybe

 

[BIGOSUFAN]

Wow. Maybe it really was a Methodist this time.

Is RCPorky in England?

 

[ThorOdinson13]

I imagine the outcry and reaction over this event will be louder than any Islamic terror attack over the last six to eight months. Think we'll see any new law proposals? Does Britain have hate crime laws? Just thinking out loud.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

Already found an apologist being a hypocrite.



Terrorism is terrorism. It's not that hard. That said, reprisal was inevitable. It was only a matter of time.

 

[AC_Exotic]

Already found an apologist being a hypocrite.

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Terrorism is terrorism. It's not that hard. That said, reprisal was inevitable. It was only a matter of time.

I'm pretty sure that a white guy can't be labeled a terrorist for some of the same reasons a black guy can't be labeled a racist.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

I'm pretty sure that a white guy can't be labeled a terrorist for some of the same reasons a black guy can't be labeled a racist.

I actually saw a meme from family guy using that very same logic.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

I'm pretty sure that a white guy can't be labeled a terrorist for some of the same reasons a black guy can't be labeled a racist.

Here it is.

 

[windriverrange]

Didn't take long to declare it a "terrorist attack."

 

[Been Jammin]

Already found an apologist being a hypocrite.

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Terrorism is terrorism. It's not that hard. That said, reprisal was inevitable. It was only a matter of time.

How is that hypocritical? Help me out here.

 

[squeak]

How is that hypocritical? Help me out here.

You don't think Charles is exploiting this latest attack?

 

[windriverrange]

Be nice to see a timeline of attacks by mooslims and whitey. How soon after each attack was the attack declared a terrorist event/attack.

 

[Been Jammin]

You don't think Charles is exploiting this latest attack?

First. Am I supposed to know who Charles is?
Second. How is he exploiting the latest attack? He is calling a spade a spade.

 

[Been Jammin]

Be nice to see a timeline of attacks by mooslims and whitey. How soon after each attack was the attack declared a terrorist event/attack.

Declared by who? Some random dude on social media?

 

[NZ Poke]

I'm pretty sure that a white guy can't be labeled a terrorist for some of the same reasons a black guy can't be labeled a racist.

I raise your narrative by $100,000:


Undocumented DREAMer kidnaps and murders a young Muslim girl (RIP).












This scenario was never added to the media narrative chart (see below). How do you think it could be spun?



In terms of the left's victimization hierarchy, Muslims and illegals (Dreamers) would have to rank about equal -- but at the same time, a woman ranks above a man.


On the other hand, there are many millions more Latinos than Muslims --- so this would have to be the worst possible media scenario.


I predict some combination of labeling the perpetrator as a "white Hispanic" (similar to George Zimmerman) Christian male, and quickly making the story disappear.

 

[AC_Exotic]

I raise your narrative by $100,000:


Undocumented DREAMer kidnaps and murders a young Muslim girl (RIP).

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This scenario was never added to the media narrative chart (see below). How do you think it could be spun?



In terms of the left's victimization hierarchy, Muslims and illegals (Dreamers) would have to rank about equal -- but at the same time, a woman ranks above a man.


On the other hand, there are many millions more Latinos than Muslims --- so this would have to be the worst possible media scenario.


I predict some combination of labeling the perpetrator as a "white Hispanic" (similar to George Zimmerman) Christian male, and quickly making the story disappear.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

First. Am I supposed to know who Charles is?
Second. How is he exploiting the latest attack? He is calling a spade a spade.

That's exactly it. He's calling a spade a spade in one instance but criticizing "Trump supporters" for doing the same in another. The difference is who is committing the act of terrorism as to whether he wants to call a spade a spade or not.

 

[Been Jammin]

That's exactly it. He's calling a spade a spade in one instance but criticizing "Trump supporters" for doing the same in another. The difference is who is committing the act of terrorism as to whether he wants to call a spade a spade or not.

OK. Since part of the tweet is cut off, I didn't realize he was disparaging Trump supporters. I see it now. I thought he was just expressing his prayers and support for the people of Manchester.

I do think there is some ambiguity as to what exactly he is accusing Trump supporters of doing. Is he calling them out for saying that the Manchester bomber was a terrorist, or is he calling them out for claiming that what happened in Manchester will start happening here unless we implement a strict travel ban (or something along those lines).

 

[windriverrange]

News outlet Been...not some random liberal dipshit like happened after Gabby G's shooting.

 

[Been Jammin]

I raise your narrative by $100,000:


Undocumented DREAMer kidnaps and murders a young Muslim girl (RIP).

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This scenario was never added to the media narrative chart (see below). How do you think it could be spun?



In terms of the left's victimization hierarchy, Muslims and illegals (Dreamers) would have to rank about equal -- but at the same time, a woman ranks above a man.


On the other hand, there are many millions more Latinos than Muslims --- so this would have to be the worst possible media scenario.


I predict some combination of labeling the perpetrator as a "white Hispanic" (similar to George Zimmerman) Christian male, and quickly making the story disappear.

So, what's the narrative here? Is it that the police are refusing to call it a hate crime because the police are liberals? Or is it that the liberals/media are in control of this country and have the police under their thumb?

Because here is a quote from the L.E. in charge of investigating the case.

On Monday, police announced that the teen's death would not be investigated as a hate crime.

"At this point, there doesn't seem to be indication this was a bias incident. It looks like they got into a dispute over something," Wright said.

To me, it sounds like they have already considered the possibility of a hate crime and have determined that it was not. Since he says "at this point", it suggests that the situation might change if new evidence comes to light.

NZ's right wing propaganda suggests that the liberal media is preventing this from being called a hate crime, but it appears to be the police that are making that call.

 

[Been Jammin]

New outlet Been...not some random liberal dipshit like happened after Gabby G's shooting.

 

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[squeak]

OK. Since part of the tweet is cut off, I didn't realize he was disparaging Trump supporters. I see it now. I thought he was just expressing his prayers and support for the people of Manchester.

I do think there is some ambiguity as to what exactly he is accusing Trump supporters of doing. Is he calling them out for saying that the Manchester bomber was a terrorist, or is he calling them out for claiming that what happened in Manchester will start happening here unless we implement a strict travel ban (or something along those lines).

He's just accusing trump supporters of exploiting a tragedy to push a narrative and then he does the same thing.

It's probably a fake account.

 

[MegaPoke]

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[Medic007]

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He had a car full of weapons and explosives. He was probably just wanting to wish them a belated happy father's day.

 

[Medic007]

The Muslims in London are freaking out about the attack on innocent Muslims. While certainly completely out of the ordinary, have they just never expected someone to fight back? As the imam tweeted, it's well past time for Muslims who are really peace loving Muslims to clean up their religious centers and teachings. Once reprisal attacks by radical non-Muslim terrorists become common like attacks by radical Muslim terrorists, it's going to be ugly.

 

[NZ Poke]

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It's ironic that the country who used to be the butt of low-intelligence jokes ("how many Polish does it take to change a lightbulb") --- is on its way to becoming Europe's dream destination.


(Along with other ex-communist Eastern European countries --- it's almost like countries who were recently communist haven't forgot what it was like, and have zero desire for leftist self-destruction and pathological altruism)








Eastern Europe:

 

[hollywood]

How is it "fighting back" exactly?

When Adacia Chambers crashed her car into the homecoming day crowd at OSU, would it be viewed as "fighting back" if someone took their car and crashed it into her parents/family? (A crowd on the sidewalk of her hometown, perhaps her high school's homecoming parade, etc?)

Would it be considered "fighting back" if I parked a u-haul full of explosives outside of the Good Shepherd Church in Pendleton, New York and blew it up during services? (That's Tim McVeigh's church when he was growing up.)

I'm trying to grasp exactly how responding to an attack, by randomly targeting people who had nothing to do with that attack, can be construed as fighting back exactly.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

How is it "fighting back" exactly?

When Adacia Chambers crashed her car into the homecoming day crowd at OSU, would it be viewed as "fighting back" if someone took their car and crashed it into her parents/family? (A crowd on the sidewalk of her hometown, perhaps her high school's homecoming parade, etc?)

Would it be considered "fighting back" if I parked a u-haul full of explosives outside of the Good Shepherd Church in Pendleton, New York and blew it up during services? (That's Tim McVeigh's church when he was growing up.)

I'm trying to grasp exactly how responding to an attack, by randomly targeting people who had nothing to do with that attack, can be construed as fighting back exactly.

I agree with you. But I guarantee this guy convinced himself that's exactly what he was doing, just like the congressional shooter.

 

[GoPokes43]

How is it "fighting back" exactly?

When Adacia Chambers crashed her car into the homecoming day crowd at OSU, would it be viewed as "fighting back" if someone took their car and crashed it into her parents/family? (A crowd on the sidewalk of her hometown, perhaps her high school's homecoming parade, etc?)

Would it be considered "fighting back" if I parked a u-haul full of explosives outside of the Good Shepherd Church in Pendleton, New York and blew it up during services? (That's Tim McVeigh's church when he was growing up.)

I'm trying to grasp exactly how responding to an attack, by randomly targeting people who had nothing to do with that attack, can be construed as fighting back exactly.

Member of Group A kills innocent members of Group B.
Member of Group B kills innocent members of Group A.
Isn't that how war generally works?

 

[CBradSmith]

The Muslims in London are freaking out about the attack on innocent Muslims. While certainly completely out of the ordinary, have they just never expected someone to fight back? As the imam tweeted, it's well past time for Muslims who are really peace loving Muslims to clean up their religious centers and teachings. Once reprisal attacks by radical non-Muslim terrorists become common like attacks by radical Muslim terrorists, it's going to be ugly.

You're Gawd Damn right.

 

[CBradSmith]

I agree with you. But I guarantee this guy convinced himself that's exactly what he was doing, just like the congressional shooter.

Then you're not really agreeing that much.

Wood is lost in Lala Land while you make the pragmatic connection that this world is full of idiots who could persuade themselves that they are fighting a good fight.

 

[CBradSmith]

Member of Group A kills innocent members of Group B.
Member of Group B kills innocent members of Group A.
Isn't that how war generally works?

For being left leaning, the political wing that sees racism, sexism, and every other ism, even when it is absent, Woods remarks are dopey.

 

[Medic007]

I'm trying to grasp exactly how responding to an attack, by randomly targeting people who had nothing to do with that attack, can be construed as fighting back exactl

Well, you see, when Muslims continuously target non-Muslins in terror attacks because "infidel," it was only a matter of time before a non-Muslim targeted Muslims in a terror attack because Muslim.

Maybe you don't see it as fighting back, but you're fooling yourself if you think there aren't people on the planet that see it as just that. An eye for an eye might not make sense to us in this case, but after years of being on the receiving end, I'm surprised it took this long for someone to do what happened yesterday.

 

[hollywood]

CBradSmith,

Sorry, I just don't equate "wildly lashing out" as being the same as "fighting back."

There's basically no way to target innocent civilians without first lending support and buying into the same type of "reason" the terrorist themselves use. Since I obviously don't support the Islamic terrorist, why would you expect me to buy into their value system where this is defensible?

This guy may have convinced himself he is in the "right" but he's no more right than those who he hates.

Now what happened recently, where people went after the actual perps and "fought back" was certainly "right" and completely acceptable. Attacking random people isn't.