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Tulsaaggieson

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The FBI tampered with evidence then took a picture of it and released it to the public. Question: How did the FBI know something was classified or not? Answer: They didn't, they made it up as they went.



The FBI turned off the security cameras for their security. Uh huh.... they could have had ready to use documentary evidence about how they collected the evidence but turned off the cameras. Tell me how that makes any kind of since. It only makes since if...... they wanted to hide how they were collecting evidence.



The what the f moment for the day. Don't forget who the head of the CIA was at the time Gina Haspel. Would like to know why she was put forward to President Trump as a good nomination for the head of the CIA. The entire time before and after she became head of the CIA she was pushing the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax behind the scenes.
 
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2012Bearcat said:
Yea how dare a journalist report on a Trump case based on court records instead of feelings and ideology. SMFH
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She's done some pretty solid work on this case. There have been a couple things I thought were over the top but for the most part she has been solid on the coverage, and always comes with receipts on this topic. Trying to find people covering this is difficult but if you want to follow the case in Florida, she's your gal.
 
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Tulsaaggieson said:
So your opinion on if this case makes it to trial?

How about an opinion on why they turned off the cameras?

Why was the CIA involved in a Presidential election actively covering up a lap top story, and do you find this ok?
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Of course he does just like all the other leftist. Leftist are as corrupt, dishonest and evil as those they elect. To them the ends justify any means which is scary when you consider the non brain dead part of this country looks to bee starting to wake up to the weaponization of government against political opposition. If the leftist are willing to weaponize government, what are they willing to do when that weaponization no longer works?
 
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2012Bearcat said:
Yea how dare a journalist report on a Trump case based on court records instead of feelings and ideology. SMFH
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Her ramblings are nothing but feelings and ideology lol

Remember her pinned tweet about use of force at Mar-A-Lago??? haha. Nothingburgers for dinner….yummmmmm lol





carry on
 
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2012Bearcat said:
Nothing routine about what the FBI did at Mar Largo. If you have the balls go to the 9 minute mark of the video.
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He’s a nutjob. After a hysteria-induced flailing attempt to credential himself as the truthsayer…

He finally gets to cover sheets. With no more evidence, just rambling on with cocaine-laced anger and ignorance haha





carry on
 
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ClintonDavidScott said:
He’s a nutjob. After a hysteria-induced flailing attempt to credential himself as the truthsayer…

He finally gets to cover sheets. With no more evidence, just rambling on with cocaine-laced anger and ignorance haha





carry on
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Provide a plausable reason for the FBI to demand the cameras be turned off? Do you have any idea why cameras are there in the first place?
 
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ClintonDavidScott said:
Her ramblings are nothing but feelings and ideology lol

Remember her pinned tweet about use of force at Mar-A-Lago??? haha. Nothingburgers for dinner….yummmmmm lol





carry on
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Is your depth of debate about the author or are you questioning the factuality of her statements? Did the FBI have its cameras on? This seems like a pretty simple yes or no.
 
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Tulsaaggieson said:
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The FBI tampered with evidence then took a picture of it and released it to the public. Question: How did the FBI know something was classified or not? Answer: They didn't, they made it up as they went.

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The FBI turned off the security cameras for their security. Uh huh.... they could have had ready to use documentary evidence about how they collected the evidence but turned off the cameras. Tell me how that makes any kind of since. It only makes since if...... they wanted to hide how they were collecting evidence.

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The what the f moment for the day. Don't forget who the head of the CIA was at the time Gina Haspel. Would like to know why she was put forward to President Trump as a good nomination for the head of the CIA. The entire time before and after she became head of the CIA she was pushing the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax behind the scenes.
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Sort of reminds me of when a body cam gets turned off.
 
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aix_xpert said:
Is your depth of debate about the author or are you questioning the factuality of her statements? Did the FBI have its cameras on? This seems like a pretty simple yes or no.
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I’m not your research assistant. Read his filing. Not just cherry picked sections lol



carry on
 
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2012Bearcat said:
Provide a plausable reason for the FBI to demand the cameras be turned off?
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You were given a plausible reason. Agent safety.

You just don't want to accept this reason and instead, want to embrace conspiracy theories in defense of Trump. No "backing the blue" right now huh?
 
soonerinlOUisiana said:
Sort of reminds me of when a body cam gets turned off.
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It's very concerning. Police officers have been fired for this. It also puts into risk why the cameras were there in the first place. Secret Service protection. With the camera's off anyone could enter and the protective service would not know about it. Even if Trump is not at the residence, access to the residence could jeopardize his security from any number of actors outside the FBI. There are a myriad of reasons for the FBI to turn off the cameras. None of them involve their own security as their security would also be ensured by the cameras.

What did you think of the active CIA interference in elections?
 
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2012Bearcat said:
If the leftist are willing to weaponize government
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Executing a legal search warrant is not weaponizing government. Legal search warrants are issued all the time in our country and then legally executed.

This search just happened to be related to Donald Trump, and therefore, you must take issue with it, attack it, and falsely claim "leftists" are weaponizing government.
 
my_2cents said:
You were given a plausible reason. Agent safety.

You just don't want to accept this reason and instead, want to embrace conspiracy theories in defense of Trump. No "backing the blue" right now huh?
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Agent safety? How were the agents in danger from cameras recording everything that was going on?
Does agent safety override the protections of a former President's homes security?
If the FBI was concerned about cameras putting their agents in danger could they not have placed an agent or two to watch the cameras? Cameras would have shown any efforts to resist forming and informed all the FBI agents before it took place.
Sorry but this reason you give is not in anyway plausable and is laughable to any fair minded person.
 
Tulsaaggieson said:
It's very concerning.
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It's actually not concerning at all when you look at it upon from a desire to defend Donald Trump and embrace conspiracy theories.

Tulsaaggieson said:
With the camera's off anyone could enter and the protective service would not know about it.
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The cameras were not completely turned off. They were still broadcasting live and people were watching them. The recording function was suspended for twenty five minutes.

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Even if Trump is not at the residence, access to the residence could jeopardize his security from any number of actors outside the FBI.
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Again, the cameras were not completely turned off and there were still people watching. Your concern here is not

Tulsaaggieson said:
There are a myriad of reasons for the FBI to turn off the cameras. None of them involve their own security as their security would also be ensured by the cameras.
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This is incorrect.

Again, try thinking as one who doesn't need to consistently defend Trump and attack the FBI.
 
my_2cents said:
Executing a legal search warrant is not weaponizing government. Legal search warrants are issued all the time in our country and then legally executed.

This search just happened to be related to Donald Trump, and therefore, you must take issue with it, attack it, and falsely claim "leftists" are weaponizing government.
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I don't expect you to agree, you've proven yourself to be a loyal supporter of Democrats and their actions but if you are even remotely intelligent, you should recognize when half the county believes Democrats are weaponizing government against political opponents there is a problem. If you don't then you are part of what is causing huge divisions in this country.
 
2012Bearcat said:
Agent safety? How were the agents in danger from cameras recording everything that was going on?
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Agent identification. Agent blackmail. Etc.

2012Bearcat said:
Does agent safety override the protections of a former President's homes security?
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The former President's home was secure and the cameras still were broadcasting live.

This isn't an either/or situation.

2012Bearcat said:
Sorry but this reason you give is not in anyway plausable and is laughable to any fair minded person.
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It is absolutely plausible and very reasonable to one who stops and thinks for a moment, outside the Trump cult box.

Is even possible for you to escape that box at this point?
 
2012Bearcat said:
should recognize when half the county believes Democrats are weaponizing government against political opponents there is a problem
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First of all, half the country doesn't believe this. Secondly, I agree there is a problem that a minority of Americans believe Trump's propaganda about Democrats weaponizing the government against him. There is a problem that some Americans will believe anything Trump says over facts, evidence, and the truth. There is a problem that some Americans, like yourself, have placed one man on a pedestal and are insistent on defending him at all costs.

Trump claims it, and you believe it. That is definitely a problem. And this is just one reason, among many, why Trump and his cult must be defeated once again this November.
 
my_2cents said:
Agent identification. Agent blackmail. Etc.


The former President's home was secure and the cameras still were broadcasting live.

This isn't an either/or situation.


It is absolutely plausible and very reasonable to one who stops and thinks for a moment, outside the Trump cult box.

Is even possible for you to escape that box at this point?
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Agent identification, blackmail? LMAO and it's thos on the right who are the conspiracy theorist, right 2 cents? SMFH
 
my_2cents said:
First of all, half the country doesn't believe this. Secondly, I agree there is a problem that a minority of Americans believe Trump's propaganda about Democrats weaponizing the government against him. There is a problem that some Americans will believe anything Trump says over facts, evidence, and the truth. There is a problem that some Americans, like yourself, have placed one man on a pedestal and are insistent on defending him at all costs.

Trump claims it, and you believe it. That is definitely a problem. And this is just one reason, among many, why Trump and his cult must be defeated once again this November.
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It's not Trump that has me believing anything, it's the actions of Democrats that has convinced me they are weaponizing government against political opponents.
 
2012Bearcat said:
Agent identification, blackmail? LMAO and it's thos on the right who are the conspiracy theorist, right 2 cents? SMFH
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How is it a conspiracy theory to assert that FBI agents have to be kept secure (at times) from identification and/or blackmail attempts, among other things? It isn't. This type of security happens all the time. Again, all you have to do is step outside the Trump cult box.

With that said, you have been given a plausible reason for why this happened. Your question has been answered.
 
2012Bearcat said:
It's not Trump that has me believing anything, it's the actions of Democrats that has convinced me they are weaponizing government against political opponents.
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What actions? What actions that don't involve Trump or any other Republican you like, has you believing this?

You believe this because Trump makes the claim and you repeat the claim in order to defend Trump. Or defend some Trump supporter of some Republican you like. And when your simplistic questions are answered, you dismiss the answers, and go on believing Trump's lies and propaganda.

You got it bad right now Bearcat. You have allowed yourself to be completely brainwashed, to the point that you can't even recognize simple common sense answers anymore.
 
my_2cents said:
What actions? What actions that don't involve Trump or any other Republican you like, has you believing this?

You believe this because Trump makes the claim and you repeat the claim in order to defend Trump. Or defend some Trump supporter of some Republican you like. And when your simplistic questions are answered, you dismiss the answers, and go on believing Trump's lies and propaganda.

You got it bad right now Bearcat. You have allowed yourself to be completely brainwashed, to the point that you can't even recognize simple common sense answers anymore.
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Numerous Trump investigations, Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton, FISA abuse, IRS targeting, FBI leadership openly political, 51 current and former intelligence activist, school board meetings, January 6th idiots, prolife protesters, BLM protesters, Palestinian protesters etc etc. If can look at those situations and say the law is being enforced equally then there is no use discussing anything with you, you are in denial. Saw an article the other day about some idiot defacing a LGBTQ painting in the street. Law enforcement said it was going to pull out all stops to find and hold accountable the idiot that did it. Compare that to the Palestinian protesters that deface everything in their wake. You see 2 Cents, it's not one incident, it's numerous incidents that show a pattern, one you either don't see or ignore due to your bias.
 
my_2cents said:
How is it a conspiracy theory to assert that FBI agents have to be kept secure (at times) from identification and/or blackmail attempts, among other things? It isn't. This type of security happens all the time. Again, all you have to do is step outside the Trump cult box.

With that said, you have been given a plausible reason for why this happened. Your question has been answered.
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When you first ignore and then try to vilify the concerns of others you are the problem but don't despair. If Trump is elected, cleans out the DOJ, FBI and other agencies of political activist, puts non biased or even anti Democrats in those position and they try even a small amount of what Democrats have done, you will change your tune. Then and only then will you be concerned with the weaponization of government against political opponents.
 
my_2cents said:
How is it a conspiracy theory to assert that FBI agents have to be kept secure (at times) from identification and/or blackmail attempts, among other things? It isn't. This type of security happens all the time. Again, all you have to do is step outside the Trump cult box.

With that said, you have been given a plausible reason for why this happened. Your question has been answered.
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Why Did the FBI Turn Off Cameras During Trump Raid? | Frontpage Mag

What was the FBI really afraid of?
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Can you point to where it shows FBI agents names and identities who participated in the raid are to be kept secret from the public?
 
2012Bearcat said:
Numerous Trump investigations, Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton, FISA abuse, IRS targeting, FBI leadership openly political, 51 current and former intelligence activist, school board meetings, January 6th idiots, prolife protesters, BLM protesters, Palestinian protesters etc etc.
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I asked you to name actions that don't involve Trump or any other Republican and what do you do? Led with Trump and mentioned other issues related to Trump.

Investigating potential criminal activity is not weaponizing government. You may believe Donald Trump is above the law, but he isn't. He can be investigated too, just as Hillary Clinton and Hunter Biden were. And mentioning Clinton and Hunter Biden doesn't help your case, unless you believe Democrats are weaponizing the government to go after other Democrats too lol!

January 6 arrests and convictions are also not weaponizing government since these individuals broke the law. Some of them literally attacked police officers, among many other actions. And they are being held accountable for their actions. Again, what happened to "backing the blue" from you?

There is nothing wrong with peaceful legal protesting. There is something wrong with illegal or violent protesting. None of this or the protests (and school board meetings) you mentioned is weaponizing government.

People being allowed to express their opinions, including political opinions, isn't weaponizing government.

So again, do you have any serious examples that don't involve Trump or any other Republican you like??

2012Bearcat said:
Saw an article the other day about some idiot defacing a LGBTQ painting in the street. Law enforcement said it was going to pull out all stops to find and hold accountable the idiot that did it. Compare that to the Palestinian protesters that deface everything in their wake.
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Give some examples of "Palestinian protesters" illegally defacing private property and the police then saying they aren't going to hold them accountable.

2012Bearcat said:
it's not one incident, it's numerous incidents that show a pattern
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No it's not numerous incidents. It is either random incidents that your right-wing propagandists feed you and try to connect (without connecting all the dots of course) or it is just flat out made up lies. Or conspiracy theories.
 
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2012Bearcat said:
www.frontpagemag.com

Why Did the FBI Turn Off Cameras During Trump Raid? | Frontpage Mag

What was the FBI really afraid of?
www.frontpagemag.com www.frontpagemag.com

Can you point to where it shows FBI agents names and identities who participated in the raid are to be kept secret from the public?
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When you are in law enforcement, you don't get to keep your identity secret, that silly little 6th amendment thing. When you are in espionage you do. So, were they acting as law enforcement or espionage agents?
 
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