Alabama FUBAR.

[Headhunter]

Multiple Republicans fighting over the nomination, the swamp backing a political lackey over a conservative like Mo Brooks is what gave the nomination to a religious fanatic screwball like Roy Moore.

The swamp has no one to blame but themselves. We now have another person in the Senate who believes in open boarders and abortion on demand.

The only good news on this is that if Alabama can screw their head on Jones will be a short term place holder, I don't see him holding that seat.

 

[Cordellhall83]

CNN is pretty giddy with excitement this morning.

 

[osu_orangestreak]

Nice spin there Mr Hannity.

 

[Rdcldad]

Nice spin there Mr Hannity.

you think this election was anything more than a phat no to roy moore?

 

[aix_xpert]

When is that seat actually up for election?

 

[OKSTATE1]

The vote last night was a win for both sides. Republicans did not need Moore in DC, it would have been in the news every single day. Getting guys like McCain replaced with a non-RINO will gain another seat (vote) in essence. The mid-terms in 2018 have like 25 democratic seats up for election and the republicans like 10 or 11. So, the republicans have a bigger opportunity to go on offense and gain seats. We have a republican congress right now that is not getting anything done anyway, so one seat means nothing. Back when Trump took office I think pretty much everyone agreed if Trump got the economy going it would bode well for the Republicans in future elections. Stock market and economy is doing well, but Dems are trying to make this about Russian collusion and sexual harassment which pulls at emotions but does nothing to improve the life of the average man. In the end, jobs and economy IMO will win.

 

[Rdcldad]

The vote last night was a win for both sides. Republicans did not need Moore in DC, it would have been in the news every single day. Getting guys like McCain replaced with a non-RINO will gain another seat (vote) in essence. The mid-terms in 2018 have like 25 democratic seats up for election and the republicans like 10 or 11. So, the republicans have a bigger opportunity to go on offense and gain seats. We have a republican congress right now that is not getting anything done anyway, so one seat means nothing. Back when Trump took office I think pretty much everyone agreed if Trump got the economy going it would bode well for the Republicans in future elections. Stock market and economy is doing well, but Dems are trying to make this about Russian collusion and sexual harassment which pulls at emotions but does nothing to improve the life of the average man. In the end, jobs and economy IMO will win.

which makes me wonder why the hell trump got involved with this roy moore clown in the first place

seems like saving your powder would be the prudent thing

then again prudent is not in trumps toolbox

 

[Been Jammin]

Even dirty libs will admit that Jones is a short term placeholder. He won a tight election in much the same way that Trump became POTUS. He didn't win because he is Doug Jones, he won because he is not Roy Moore.

A big part of his victory was due to increased turnout by minority voters and because younger voters overwhelmingly voted for Jones. It will be interesting to see if that turns out to be an aberration (pushback against Moore), or if it is the first sign of a trend that will continue in midterm elections.

 

[aix_xpert]

The thing about Alabama that I've finding interesting is that now that Jones has won, the story is about how this election is a repudiation of Trump and his policies and clearly shows that the Dems will have the upper hand in 2018. The media narrative is already diminishing the role that the candidate's prior sexual assualt allegations played in the election.

That said, 2018 is going to be a unique year. I'm hopeful that the full list of 'slush fund' payouts via Congress gets released as it may open up all kinds of seats in both Republican and Democrat districts. If it does, it will flip all the current projections and polls on their head.

 

[Rdcldad]

He won a tight election in much the same way that Trump became POTUS.

just stop already

 

[Headhunter]

I predict that if the economy keeps going and people actually see a couple of hundred more bucks in their monthly income from reduced tax rates the tax and spend crowd will have a hard time taking control.

 

[Headhunter]

When is that seat actually up for election?

2018

 

[AC_Exotic]

If Trump had an ounce of dignity and class he would have won the election by a wide margin. The way the economy has been going, he would now be considered unstoppable heading into 2020.

He just can't get out of his own way.

Regarding Moore, it's hard to get behind a candidate with all those skeletons in his closet.

 

[osu_orangestreak]

The truth:

"Let’s plainly state the reason why Roy Moore lost tonight. Alabama conservatives took a stand. By the tens of thousands they either stayed home, voted for other candidates, or — in some instances — voted for Doug Jones. To say that conservatives beat Roy Moore is not to take one thing away from Doug Jones. He ran a smart race, he mobilized Democrats, and his voters came to the polls in large numbers — large enough to win. But this is Alabama. He could have run the perfect race, and he still would have lost — if conservatives supported their party’s nominee.

Tonight, Alabama conservatives told Steve Bannon and, yes, Donald Trump that integrity matters. They told their party that some victories aren’t worth the cost. They declared that partisanship isn’t worth grotesque moral compromise. The deep South said no to Roy Moore’s bigotry. It said no to his ignorance and malice.

Where do we go from here? The answers are obvious. Nominate conservatives with integrity. Retake the seat. Reject the vicious, malicious politics of men like Steve Bannon. Center the political fight around ideas and values that men and women are proud to vote for. In the meantime, Alabama conservatives have sent their message. May the GOP hear it loud and clear."

 

[Rdcldad]

If Trump had an ounce of dignity and class he would have won the election by a wide margin. The way the economy has been going, he would now be considered unstoppable heading into 2020.

He just can't get out of his own way.

if trump had an ounce of dignity and class

lying ted
little marco
crooked hillary

all would have run his ass over

if the toilets backed up and you got turds all over the floor nobody cares what the plumber looks like

 

[AC_Exotic]

if trump had an ounce of dignity and class

lying ted
little marco
crooked hillary

all would have run his ass over

if the toilets backed up and you got turds all over the floor nobody cares what the plumber looks like

I guess we all should have seen this coming years ago when the Jerry Springer show became a commercial success.

 

[aix_xpert]

The truth:

"Let’s plainly state the reason why Roy Moore lost tonight. Alabama conservatives took a stand. By the tens of thousands they either stayed home, voted for other candidates, or — in some instances — voted for Doug Jones. To say that conservatives beat Roy Moore is not to take one thing away from Doug Jones. He ran a smart race, he mobilized Democrats, and his voters came to the polls in large numbers — large enough to win. But this is Alabama. He could have run the perfect race, and he still would have lost — if conservatives supported their party’s nominee.

Tonight, Alabama conservatives told Steve Bannon and, yes, Donald Trump that integrity matters. They told their party that some victories aren’t worth the cost. They declared that partisanship isn’t worth grotesque moral compromise. The deep South said no to Roy Moore’s bigotry. It said no to his ignorance and malice.

Where do we go from here? The answers are obvious. Nominate conservatives with integrity. Retake the seat. Reject the vicious, malicious politics of men like Steve Bannon. Center the political fight around ideas and values that men and women are proud to vote for. In the meantime, Alabama conservatives have sent their message. May the GOP hear it loud and clear."

I completely disagree with this post. Roy Moore was accused of sexual assault against teenagers. This wasn't about any bigotry. This wasn't about ignorance and malice. This was simply a completely flawed candidate that still took Mr. Jones to the wire. Jones didn't run a good campaign. He had a number of his own gaffes. He is also the kind of candidate that if the Dems run in any other red state house race will lose by double digits. He's not a centrist like Manchin. You could even argue, this was a lot like the Trump election, except Moore didn't win. The Dem's entire campaign playbook was to run as "I'm not him." No campaign positions. No "here's how I'll make Alabama better". Just "the other guy is bad, so vote for me instead". Just like Clinton did against Trump. The only difference is that sexual assault against teenagers crosses that moral red line further than Trump's crude behavior.

 

[Inky29]

Should have been in Political 101, but running as a pedophile is a losing proposition. Kudos to Roy Moore for trying to shake up the establishment and prove that pedophiles are people too.

 

[CowboyJD]

you think this election was anything more than a phat no to roy moore?

A phat no to el donaldrino too, maybe.

 

[CowboyJD]

When is that seat actually up for election?

2018

Doug Jones’s seat?

2020.

 

[Inky29]

I go back and forth if its really is a big no on Donald, I don't think he was ever elected based on likability more so on the unlikability of his competition. I think the fact that a creep like ol Roy could get the race down to such a close margin given his unfavorables is more of a good thing for Trump. If folks were willing to put a vote in for Moore with the baggage he had, imagine what would happen if the candidate wasn't Wooderson.

I will tip my hat to the dems who played this race like a fiddle, they had this dirt on Moore and held onto it until it was too late to make a switch. My guess is we never hear about this if Moore had lost the run off.

 

[Been Jammin]

I go back and forth if its really is a big no on Donald, I don't think he was ever elected based on likability more so on the unlikability of his competition. I think the fact that a creep like ol Roy could get the race down to such a close margin given his unfavorables is more of a good thing for Trump. If folks were willing to put a vote in for Moore with the baggage he had, imagine what would happen if the candidate wasn't Wooderson.

I will tip my hat to the dems who played this race like a fiddle, they had this dirt on Moore and held onto it until it was too late to make a switch. My guess is we never hear about this if Moore had lost the run off.

Agree with all of your points. Trump helped Moore to have a chance.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

I'm not sure the MAGA agenda is resonating with black women.

 

[CBradSmith]

I'm not sure the MAGA agenda is resonating with black women.

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All politics starts at home, you retard.

Stick to pounding Oklahoma legislators on education. That's your relative strength.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

All politics starts at home, you retard.

Stick to pounding Oklahoma legislators on education. That's your relative strength.

Aw, Brad, you shouldn't oughta say dat stuff... everybody gettin' along good and you gotta say dat stuff. So hurtful.

Huge black turnout and 97 - 3 margin makes it hard on the Gang Of Pedophiles. Just didn't see that demographic producing like that. Maybe it was local anti-Moore stuff... or maybe the black vote is hyper-mobilized? I don't know... what do you think? Interesting thing is that if those were house races, the Gang Of Pedophiles would've still won all but one seat. Know why? Gerrymandering. Huge advantage.

 

[Rdcldad]

A phat no to el donaldrino too, maybe.

maybe not heh

 

[CowboyJD]

maybe not heh

Sure, maybe not....but maybe. Heh.

 

[Ostatedchi]

This is only a repudiation of nothing but a crappy candidate. And he almost won.

 

[CowboyJD]

This is only a repudiation of nothing but a crappy candidate. And he almost won.

A crappy candidate that was wholeheartedly endorsed by our Chief Executive. So maybe that means something.

 

[aix_xpert]

A crappy candidate that was wholeheartedly endorsed by our Chief Executive. So maybe that means something.

The presidents always provide support for their party candidate. Show me one instance where Obama as president did not endorse a Democratic candidate. I tried to google an instance but had no luck finding such data. In Trump's case though, he can say that Moore wasn't his candidate as he did support the other Republican (publicly) in the primary. This is something that is uncommon as presidents don't usually pick sides in primaries.

 

[osu_orangestreak]

Davis Duke never got support from Bush or Reagan, instead they condemned him. Showed moral fortitude and did what's right for the country and party.

That's what Trump should have done. But morals and doing the right escape him.

 

[NZ Poke]

I'm not sure the MAGA agenda is resonating with black women.

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For what it's worth, 45 years after LBJ created of the "War on Poverty," black women's genital herpes rate reached 48%. (One in two)

This isn't a racist statistic, it was from the CDC.


Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/ps-herpes-usa/u-s-herpes-rates-remain-high-cdc-idUSN0923528620100309

The Democratic Party has been awful for black women's vajayjays.

 

[Been Jammin]

The presidents always provide support for their party candidate. Show me one instance where Obama as president did not endorse a Democratic candidate. I tried to google an instance but had no luck finding such data. In Trump's case though, he can say that Moore wasn't his candidate as he did support the other Republican (publicly) in the primary. This is something that is uncommon as presidents don't usually pick sides in primaries.

Do you think Obama would have supported Moore if Moore was a Dem and Obama was still POTUS? I don't.

Trump can say that Moore wasn't his candidate because he supported Strong. And, of course, that is what Trump is now saying, because he always has to convince his followers that he is the smartest guy in the room. But, everyone knows that he went all in on Moore over Jones and his efforts were not enough.

 

[ctdub]

A crappy candidate that was wholeheartedly endorsed by our Chief Executive. So maybe that means something.

Half heartedly endorsed. He didn't endorse him in the primaries and I didn't follow the race very closely, but I don't think he endorsed him until just recently and very reluctantly. I definitely wouldn't call it a wholehearted endorsement.

 

[osu_orangestreak]

Is this the end of the Bannon freak show?

Or does he drag out chemtrail Kelli to lose one of the two upcoming Arizona seats?

 

[wyomingosualum]

Is this the end of the Bannon freak show?

Or does he drag out chemtrail Sally to lose one of the two upcoming Arizona seats?

Who?

 

[Ostatedchi]

The left and Anti-Trumpers are going to be sorely disappointed if they think this is an indicator of anything larger than such a horrible candidate that virtually unelectable - and was almost elected.

I'd actually think that this is a show of Support for Trump in that the race was even this close. If Trump didn't say anything, this would have been a Democratic route of a certifiable moron.

 

[JimmyBob]

The left and Anti-Trumpers are going to be sorely disappointed if they think this is an indicator of anything larger than such a horrible candidate that virtually unelectable - and was almost elected.

I'd actually think that this is a show of Support for Trump in that the race was even this close. If Trump didn't say anything, this would have been a Democratic route of a certifiable moron.

Roy Moore was the R's equivalent of Quasimodo, afflicted with stage four, multi-hump growing cancer. It was electorally cured yesterday.

 

[Rdcldad]

Davis Duke never got support from Bush or Reagan, instead they condemned him. Showed moral fortitude and did what's right for the country and party.

That's what Trump should have done. But morals and doing the right escape him.

that's rich

seth rich

 

[windriverrange]

Wasn't paying attention either, but how many rallies in Alabama did Trump go to for Moore?

Moore was, is and always be a douche bag of titanic proportions and he deserved to loose. The establishment of both parties are there to be re-elected, whore themselves out to special interest and not able to solve problems that would make citizens like all of us more prosperous and safe.

Had lunch with some of my liberal friend on Monday. They were besting Trump up for "supporting" Moore. I told them that Moore was going to lose, and they keep hammering Trump for other things. Trump does a lot of dopey things and should get beat up for them. The problem is they would beat him up no matter what. Pretty sure that's never going to change. Plus all those pussys in the media simply can't take any criticism so they cry, whine and try to create a controversy over anything Trump says. Over 90% of his coverage is negative, yet the economy is doing very well and will really do well with tax reform.

The ex-rodent in chief would have supported a flawed candidate in a heartbeat to get his agenda passed. Extremely naive to assume otherwise. Hell the guy hired HRC, was, raised by a racist POS, allowed the IRS to be weaponized, supported Robert Byrds election runs, supported Robert Menedez, allowed sanctuary cities to flourish, sat through the America hating and racist Rev Wrights sermons, the list is endless and friends with Bill Ayrrs and Bernadine Dohrn, the only difference the media was perpetually giving him reach arounds. And hiding his flaws as best they could. Here's a link to some of his POS friends https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bad-company-of-barack-obama/

He was smart enough to cover his tracks though, by using subordinates so not only is the ex-rodent in chief guilty of some of the shit Trump is getting Katia led for (see Robert Byrd) he is also a effiminate coward.

The moron is a polition, he would have supported "Mr Ed" if it furthered his agenda, ego and promoted more adulation for himself.