2025 NCAA Tournament

[okokzach]

The brackets will be released tomorrow. The final coaches rankings and RPI released today.

Coaches rankings: https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/files/2025-03/25_D1M_RankingFINAL_Top33.pdf

RPI rankings: https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/files/2025-03/25_D1M_RankingFINAL_RPI.pdf

 

[okokzach]

I went through them and consolidated our guys' info

Weight	Name	RPI Rank	Coach Rank	Coach Points
125	Troy Spratley	4	8	378
133	Reece Witcraft	19	26	110.5
141	Tagen Jamison	6	6	394
149	Teague Travis	-	-	-
157	Caleb Fish	13	12	295
165	Cameron Amine	6	7	368
174	Dean Hamiti	1	3	435
184	Dustin Plott	1	4	426
197	Luke Surber	2	7	359
285	Wyatt Hendrickson	1	3	436

 

[osufanatic4life]

The coaches don’t think too highly of us.

 

[chasepollard]

The coaches don’t think too highly of us.

Mainly Troy with the slight.

Still, coaches picked us to have 7 AAs and I think that’s a solid tourney.

 

[Okie_Pat]

They think very highly of the big10. Wonder what coaches are involved in this

 

[tom_v31]

Great attitude
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[chasepollard]

Seeds need to hurry!

 

[Pennstate1985]

Seeds need to hurry!

Only 12 more hours

 

[topc22blue]

The coaches don’t think too highly of us.

Schwab voting twice?

 

[chasepollard]

Schwab voting twice?

You mean Brian smith?

 

[oklahomaglory]

Hope we get Wyatt vs Trephan and Gable vs Kerk round two in HWT. This might be easier path for Wyatt to make the finals.

 

[Pennstate1985]

Hope we get Wyatt vs Trephan and Gable vs Kerk round two in HWT. This might be easier path for Wyatt to make the finals.

None of those guys will meet until round 4.

 

[oklahomaglory]

None of those guys will meet until round 4.

I am talking about round 4. It is fairly obvious whoever is facing Gable is going to lose, I want Wyatt to be the one who faces Gable last.

 

[Skinpig]

None of those guys will meet until round 4.

I am hoping that was meant to be in a blue font!😵‍💫

 

[Pennstate1985]

I am talking about round 4. It is fairly obvious whoever is facing Gable is going to lose, I want Wyatt to be the one who faces Gable last.

Sadly, I am resigned to Gable winning. We are all just hoping our guy can score 2nd place points lol. 4 points is 4 points. You guys could certainly use those points in the team race, so it'll be interesting if Kerk gets the 4 seed. I believe Kerk gets the 3 seed with Wyatt getting the 2 seed. That would be a great semifinal.

 

[chasepollard]

Sadly, I am resigned to Gable winning. We are all just hoping our guy can score 2nd place points lol. 4 points is 4 points. You guys could certainly use those points in the team race, so it'll be interesting if Kerk gets the 4 seed. I believe Kerk gets the 3 seed with Wyatt getting the 2 seed. That would be a great semifinal.

If we are being honest Trephan deserves the 3 over Kerk based on w/l, RPI and conference finish.

However, I believe that Kerk gets it.

 

[Pennstate1985]

If we are being honest Trephan deserves the 3 over Kerk based on w/l, RPI and conference finish.

However, I believe that Kerk gets it.

I was being honest

Why wasn't Trephan wrestling the day PSU and Lehigh wrestled?

 

[grumpy_okie]

I was being honest

Why wasn't Trephan wrestling the day PSU and Lehigh wrestled?

That answer very much depends on whether your allegiances lie with the evil empire Penn State or else where. So I’m sure he was legitimately injured or elsewise engaged, and he was absolutely not trying to game seeding.

 

[oklahomaglory]

Sadly, I am resigned to Gable winning. We are all just hoping our guy can score 2nd place points lol. 4 points is 4 points. You guys could certainly use those points in the team race, so it'll be interesting if Kerk gets the 4 seed. I believe Kerk gets the 3 seed with Wyatt getting the 2 seed. That would be a great semifinal.

Do I want a great semi final or 4 points? I will take 4 points for now, lol. With all Iowa, Nebraska and OSU fighting for 2nd spot, any point will be good. Need that 2nd place boost for DT to launch another good portal/offseason.

 

[Pennstate1985]

That answer very much depends on whether your allegiances lie with the evil empire Penn State or else where. So I’m sure he was legitimately injured or elsewise engaged, and he was absolutely not trying to game seeding.

Don't you hate it when your phone autocorrects to something nasty, but you're able to catch it? Good on you!

 

[Pennstate1985]

Do I want a great semi final or 4 points? I will take 4 points for now, lol. With all Iowa, Nebraska and OSU fighting for 2nd spot, any point will be good. Need that 2nd place boost for DT to launch another good portal/offseason.

I don't see Nebraska hanging out to the end.

 

[oklahomaglory]

I don't see Nebraska hanging out to the end.

You maybe right, but Nebraska surprised me at Big 10s this year and took the second handily.

 

[chasepollard]

I was being honest

Why wasn't Trephan wrestling the day PSU and Lehigh wrestled?

He didn’t answer my call when I asked that. But I’m guessing it was for this very scenario?

If Reece gets left out of the dance because of RPI, it’s possible that Kerk gets an inkind treatment for the same metric.

I don’t think it happens, but, the facts have been presented. As a seeding official, it would be difficult to pencil 3 next to Kerk. But who says these officials can pick a winning Wrestler?

Trephan has a better record, a better RPI and an equal/similar bonus rate.

 

[Pennstate1985]

He didn’t answer my call when I asked that. But I’m guessing it was for this very scenario?

If Reece gets left out of the dance because of RPI, it’s possible that Kerk gets an inkind treatment for the same metric.

I don’t think it happens, but, the facts have been presented. As a seeding official, it would be difficult to pencil 3 next to Kerk. But who says these officials can pick a winning Wrestler?

Trephan has a better record, a better RPI and an equal/similar bonus rate.

I noticed that you left out some of the other metrics lol

 

[chasepollard]

I noticed that you left out some of the other metrics lol

I couldn’t find SOS or the list of the others I know have to be there.

So we are clear, I’d seed Kerk 2/3 and never look at metrics.

 

[grumpy_okie]

Don't you hate it when your phone autocorrects to something nasty, but you're able to catch it? Good on you!

Typically my ducking phone's autocorrects go the other way, but hey, maybe I'm turning over a new leaf!

 

[Pennstate1985]

Typically my ducking phone's autocorrects go the other way, but hey, maybe I'm turning over a new leaf!

I have 95 employees, and about 90 are female. Some of the words my phone changes would probably get me sued. I'm glad I carefully read everything before hitting send. Not that they probably didn't deserve the bad words. I guess my phone reads minds.

 

[Pennstate1985]

I couldn’t find SOS or the list of the others I know have to be there.

So we are clear, I’d seed Kerk 2/3 and never look at metrics.

I'm just having fun. Regardless of seed, you have to beat the competition anyway.

I am tired of the ducking and MFF for seeding purposes. Like Gallagher of Ohio State forfeiting to MM in the quarters after having won his round of 16 match and wrestling every match on the backside. Even taking PSU out of that scenario, I would still be pissed off. There should be a seeding penalty for forfeiting a not so random match during conference tourneys. Ryan did that with his son 8-10 years ago too.

 

[bwel9339]

I'm just having fun. Regardless of seed, you have to beat the competition anyway.

I am tired of the ducking and MFF for seeding purposes. Like Gallagher of Ohio State forfeiting to MM in the quarters after having won his round of 16 match and wrestling every match on the backside. Even taking PSU out of that scenario, I would still be pissed off. There should be a seeding penalty for forfeiting a not so random match during conference tourneys. Ryan did that with his son 8-10 years ago too.

If you medically can’t wrestle a match in a tournament, you should be disqualified from the rest of the tournament. It may sound harsh but I believe this is the only way to eliminate what happened in Big 10’s. If they want to allow what Ryan did then there needs to be a deduction of a team point(s) or more if that wrestler re-enters. What Ryan did was BS.

 

[cowboyfan05]

If you medically can’t wrestle a match in a tournament, you should be disqualified from the rest of the tournament. It may sound harsh but I believe this is the only way to eliminate what happened in Big 10’s. If they want to allow what Ryan did then there needs to be a deduction of a team point(s) or more if that wrestler re-enters. What Ryan did was BS

I wonder if Ryan would then just have his guy go and lay on his back after the first whistle. Would be hilarious

 

[Pennstate1985]

If you medically can’t wrestle a match in a tournament, you should be disqualified from the rest of the tournament. It may sound harsh but I believe this is the only way to eliminate what happened in Big 10’s. If they want to allow what Ryan did then there needs to be a deduction of a team point(s) or more if that wrestler re-enters. What Ryan did was BS.

Beyond the wrestling itself, it's a moral character issue to me. My wrestling coach in HS tried to teach us to do things the right way. Don't cut corners. Beat the guy in front of you by working your a$$ off the week before. I couldn't conceive of a moment where he would have come to me and said the guy you're facing is too good for you so I'm going to forfeit that match for you. How in the heck do you ever start the conversation with your wrestler, and how as the wrestler do you not punch him for letting you down?

 

[osu1988]

 

[topc22blue]

You mean Brian smith?

Both doofuses

 

[bwel9339]

Beyond the wrestling itself, it's a moral character issue to me. My wrestling coach in HS tried to teach us to do things the right way. Don't cut corners. Beat the guy in front of you by working your a$$ off the week before. I couldn't conceive of a moment where he would have come to me and said the guy you're facing is too good for you so I'm going to forfeit that match for you. How in the heck do you ever start the conversation with your wrestler, and how as the wrestler do you not punch him for letting you down?

You know, I used to respect Tom Ryan. I feel bad he got in that wreck but that is a chickenshit move and if I was an Ohio State wrestling donor/fan, I’d be trying to retire him.

 

[bwel9339]

We really got bit at 133. I know I’m not privy to all the information on what was going on but it looks like in hindsight we should have rolled with Cael Hughes. I know weight management was an issue and possible injury. Reece was a feel good story for a while but he was banged up too. Several people thought he would do well at the tournament. Reece had a tough draw too with all the upsets. I’m not sure the coaches had a good option either way but this will hurt us in the team race. UNI got all their wrestlers in. Hopefully the staff learned a lesson with 133 this season.

 

[skylinepoke]

We really got bit at 133. I know I’m not privy to all the information on what was going on but it looks like in hindsight we should have rolled with Cael Hughes. I know weight management was an issue and possible injury. Reece was a feel good story for a while but he was banged up too. Several people thought he would do well at the tournament. Reece had a tough draw too with all the upsets. I’m not sure the coaches had a good option either way but this will hurt us in the team race. UNI got all their wrestlers in. Hopefully the staff learned a lesson with 133 this season.

Reece could beat any wrestler who is not as strong as him but the wrestlers who are as strong or stronger are going to win against Reece.
It would be nice if Reece could have scored a couple of points for the team but I'm guessing that we are getting the same points whether Reece wrestled or not at 133.

 

[okokzach]

Trackwrestling brackets: https://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/predefinedtournaments/VerifyPassword.jsp?tournamentId=855048132

PDF brackets:

 

[tom_v31]

Sadly, I am resigned to Gable winning. We are all just hoping our guy can score 2nd place points lol. 4 points is 4 points. You guys could certainly use those points in the team race, so it'll be interesting if Kerk gets the 4 seed. I believe Kerk gets the 3 seed with Wyatt getting the 2 seed. That would be a great semifinal.

Nice call

 

[Otmat]

I count three guys that Reece defeated this season that made the tournament.

 

[Cali_Nittany]

I have 95 employees, and about 90 are female. Some of the words my phone changes would probably get me sued. I'm glad I carefully read everything before hitting send. Not that they probably didn't deserve the bad words. I guess my phone reads minds.

@Pennstate1985 heading to work: