I want to say my local pd unveiled their own tank about 6 years ago and I railed against it on fb and probably on this board. I’ll see if I can figure out when that was
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I want to say my local pd unveiled their own tank about 6 years ago and I railed against it on fb and probably on this board. I’ll see if I can figure out when that was
State Police have NO duty to arrest, or otherwise enforce, FEDERAL Immigration laws, unless required by the State Governors. State Governors are NOT required to enforce FEDERAL Immigration laws, under the "Anti-Commandeering Doctrine."
Found my fb post. it was 6 years ago. Tagged you on the pic. I’m 99% sure I had a NSB thread on it here too. Maybe Karen07 can go find it.
I don’t think I would describe as “unrest”. More appropriately, Ferguson RIOTS.
So about the same time I was here and on orangepower saying that the response to the Ferguson protests by law enforcement was way overmilitarized and exacerbated the situation. To which I got plenty of responses like this poo pooing the notion.....
After Ferguson, Obama greatly placed restrictions...basically halted the transfer of military high grade firearms and armored vehicles under these programs. Trump and Sessions rescinded those executive orders and reauthorized such transfers in 2017.
Mega....
I don’t necessarily go as far as ‘Wood.
I can see a federal judge finding, on a case by case fact intensive basis, finding some orders....even quarantine orders....unconstitutional overreach. It could happen.
Until that happens though, they aren’t CLEARLY unconstitutional. Additionally, there is a notion in the law that duly enacted laws are presumed constitutional until established otherwise. There is a CONSTITUTIONAL manner for challenging the legality of laws and that procedure provides federal judges the authority to temporarily restrain enforcement of such laws. And until that happens, I think it is unfair to characterize rank and file officers enforcing laws that are presumed to be constitutional that haven’t been challenged as jackbooted thugs dishonoring their oaths to the Constitution.
I neither addressed nor poo pooed overmilitarization in Ferguson.
But seriously... if you think describing what happened in Ferguson is “unrest” is applicable...then do you describe the Los Angeles in 1992 as “restlessness”?
I didn’t say you did.
I said I received responses that did here and elsewhere.
Characterizing them as riots does serve to excuse or justify the militarization of the response which I believe exacerbated the situation way more than it helped.
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fair enough, but I hope “following orders” won’t be a valid defense in the eventual lawsuits some of the rank and file thugs will face when less thuggish methods of law enforcement weren’t exhausted. .
Judge Eric Moye' is a very activist liberal person. He will do anything in Dallas the dem establishment wants.
Thanks for the background information.
Kind of thought it might be something along those lines, but these are crazy times.
Unless the order he followed clearly violated the person's "clearly established" statutory or constitutional rights, the officer is going to have qualified immunity. Qualified immunity allows suits only where officials violated a “clearly established” statutory or constitutional right. That standard is whether a hypothetical reasonable official would have known that the his conduct violated the person's rights. Courts conducting this analysis apply the law that was in force at the time of the alleged violation, not the law in effect when the court considers the case.
time for a general awakening
arguing legalities
on orders with zero scientific basis
your order is shit
because your science is shit
has the goalposts moved into dangerous territory
let’s remember how hitler used “science”
arguing legalities
on orders with zero scientific basis
your order is shit
because your science is shit
has the goalposts moved into dangerous territory
let’s remember how hitler used “science”
@CowboyJD and I were literally talking in this thread about a fb post I made about this 6 years ago Karen. Keep up.
Complaining about it in YOUR hometown, we get it YOUR liberty is very important to you.
before you close my salon
clean your GD subway
clean your GD subway
I don't necessarily disagree with that assertion, my statement is that they are valid on their face and will be treated as such, until they are challenged and overturned. (Which I believe is doubtful.)
