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I'm a Christian who doesn't attend church. I'm tired of the holier than thou, hypocritical fashion show fascinated with everyone else's sins instead of their own.
I give my time and money to a secular service organization that doesn't judge the people it helps. I feel that the secular charity lives more by the Christian tenants than most ever church I've ever entered.
Have you ever attended Mass? Just curious.
No, First of all their is no war on Christians, no mass plot to destroy the church, gay marriage and the ACA are no threat to the true church. Don't mistake Freedom from Religion which clearly is on the rise in America with a decline of Freedom of Religion.
Secondly, it is true church attendance has declined in the last fifty years. There are no longer social pressure to attend church to be accepted into society. This is not necessarily a bad thing for the church. People now attend church because of their personal faith not because it is expected of them.
More then 50% of the population still attends church on a regular basis. Name anything else with that kind of participation in our society. According to Mitt Romney that's a higher percentage of people then actually have jobs.
I'd be interested in a study that explored attendance drops in other aspects of society since 2007... I have a feeling the smart phone and social media revolution(s) has as much to do with this recent Pew survey as anything.
Be curious to hear how and why gay marriage has effected church attendance negatively in other countries. Honestly curious about it.
Yeah but none of those links really explain how legalization of gay marriage has produced a decline in church attendance. I'm not saying it is not happening. Just would like to hear why. No matter where you stand on the issue I'm not sure why it would hurt church attendance.
The problem I see coming of this ruling is if you are a Christian who believes gay marriage or being gay is a sin then you are a bigot.
Lost me at "science denier" call it rhetoric, hyperbole, whatever.
Pokewithnoname,
And once again you dance around the issue raised above. Yes, we know that Paul/Saul appears to have written about homosexuality being a sin.
But you know who directly said that those who divorce and remarry (with the sole exception of when your spouse is committing adultery) are living in a constant state of "sin" (adultery)? Jesus, that's who - Matthew 19:3-12. Does your church have members who are divorced and remarried? Does your church/pastor hold wedding ceremonies for those who are divorced and want to remarry?
Then you, your church and your ministers are DIRECTLY disobeying your marching orders, received from God/Jesus himself.
Can you please grasp why so many of the rest of us think that many churches/Christians our nothing but a bunch if hypocrites who pick and choose the "sin" that you feel you must fight? All the while turning a blind eye (hell, their not even turning a blind eye, they're flat out ENDORSING and participating, legitimizing and "blessing" sinful activity) because somehow it doesn't seem to offend them as much.
Now, can you please directly address this issue and explain to me why churches (and I'm assuming your church is one of them) seem to be completely cool with divorcees who remarry and are living in a perpetual state of sin, but seem to get so damned worked up about gay marriage even though your churches do not have to participate or accept same?
Romans 1 has strong statements regarding homosexuality that should be hard for any Bible believing Christian to look past.
Of course, if the Bible is inconsequential to you, it doesn't matter.
Sin is Sin and only God will be able to judge justly IMO. I agree that all these people freaking out about this forget about all the other evil in the world. My only fear is because the good book says it is a sin then LBGT will use it to say I have hate when in fact that isn't true at all. I think weather or not someone has accepted Jesus Crist as their savor is way more important then someone's sexual orientation.
you labeled an entire group. Twist it however you want.
While no expert, I believe pedos may be born with the predisposition for what it is they like sexually. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm sure research exists. However, the simple & easy explanation as to why pedophilia (or kleptomania, beastiality, etc) is different than homosexuality...is consent with homosexuality versus the harm (often terrible) the other does to a non-consenting person (or animal, if you're going to bring in beastiality.)Aggiesboy, most pedophiles will tell you they were born that way. Does this validate their behavior? Many liars and kleptomaniacs say the same thing.