Can you point out how that led to people getting their doors kicked in and having all their weapons confiscated?
I never post about Issues…this has me pissed off
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I’m just saying, that’s the level of hyperbole you hear coming from the NRA and their ilk. It’s silly. Always has been.
Will your proposal be in line with the 2nd amendment?
Will your proposal be effective?
Will your proposal preserve due process?
So far only JD has provided an answer that would meet all 3 qualifications and I think everyone ITT would be on board with that.
Pretty much every other proposal fails in at least one of those tests.
I don’t pretend to have all the answers. I liked JD’s idea too. I’m also in favor of red flag laws, but I know those aren’t popular.
My mind reading skills are not as refined as yours apparently. Glad you know what he meant and not what he wrote.
Red flag laws, if properly constrained would fall under a similar umbrella as JD's proposal. Similar to VPOs. It's just that the devil is in the details. Most proposals are rife with potential abuse. Much like civil forfeiture laws.
Im not a fan of the NRA. I gave up my membership years ago.
I mentioned it in my earlier post. Let's say for the sake of argument you can snap your fingers and get rid of every rifle you consider a weapon of war. What's next if psychos continue to target schools and other soft targets using a semi auto pistol? Do you say OK we tried but semi autos are off the table, or do you continue to focus on the tools the killers are using?
That's the slippery slope gun owners are worried about.
He did not misuse the product. The AR15 was intended to kill as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time. That was the reason for its design. That being said, I do not believe Gun manufacturers should be held accountable unless their advertising suggests, implies or encourages violent use of its products.
I think the AR platform 12 gauges scare me more then anything honestly.
Why is this on the sports board and why hasn’t it been moved?
So your saying only Andre Roberson should own guns?
The border issue is caused by the republicans. They hire the illegals and then complain they come here. Stop hiring them and they will not come.
Oh Lord. You’re a beaut.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Armalite designed the weapon to gain the US military contract for a combat weapon. They won but could not afford to fulfill the contract and thus sold out to Colt. It IS a weapon for the killing of humans.
Doesn’t stop obtaining them just slows unfettered access, gun show loopholes, and helps identify people who can’t be trusted with them like the suicidal, mentally ill, enemies of the state, felons and others where laws already ban their legal ownership.
Sounds a lot like poll taxes or literacy tests. It doesn't stop you from voting Just slows unfettered access. It helps identify people who can't be trusted with voting .
Suppressors are still pretty expensive for the materials and machining they actually require. And there is literally zero reason for them to be complicated to own. The absence of affordable and easily obtainable sound suppressors for hearing protection is a crime.
Thanks, appreciate the explanation. .
Totally agree with your last paragraph. Let’s focus on the killing games and social media our kids have access too. Also address the God awful rap music about killing. Start there and begin to change our culture. Not sure it will work, but it address the key issue.
Don’t you need a stamp or something to get a fully automatic? I believe it also requires an additional background check.
Totally agree. My son is technically deaf, but loves to shoot. In the process of getting his suppressor now. My understanding is he will need two different ones, one for .223 and different one for .22 when he switches out the bolt. Need to talk to you more about what you have found.
Thanks, but I think you are wrong with your "everyone ITT would be on board with that".
In fact, I'm pretty sure that far from everyone ITT would be on board with such proposals.
Sooo, then it is Ok? I do not understand your point. What are you advocating, That it is not enough of a problem to be concerned about? Or that we need to put more emphasis on hand gun violence, or that unless 4 people are shot it is of no importance? I think we should be concerned with all gun violence. And I am a gun owner and avid hunter. Always will be. The BS about taking our guns away is just fear mongering for profit by the right.
I find it hilariously ironc that you mention fear mongering by "the right" when the "assault rifle" talk is leftist fear mongering bullshit in itself. The VAST majority of homicide in this country is black on black violence in inner cities, a demorgraphic you and your ilk pretend to care about. Wouldn't it make the most sense to reduce overall gun violence by I dunno, concentrating on the areas where the majority of it is happening? More police and violence intervention programs would be a start but no, we can't talk about black people slaughtering each other in inner cities. We gotta' focus on climate change, systemic racism, assault weapons, etc. Anything to keep our attention away from these democrat led war zones.
- Black Americans die from gun violence at 2.4 times the rate of White Americans
- Black Americans make up the majority of gun homicide victims in the US. In fact, 83% of all gun deaths among Black Americans are gun homicides.11 Despite the fact that Black boys and men account for just six percent of the total population, they comprise more than half of all gun homicide victims.12
- In the nation’s 20 largest counties, Black men ages 18 to 25 die from gun homicides at a rate nearly 19 times that of white residents.1 This disparity means that while five out of every 100,000 young white people in these counties die from gun homicides, more than one in every 10,000 young Black people are killed in such incidents.15
- Homicide has been the leading cause of death for Black men ages 15 to 44 for more than half a century.16 More than 86% of homicides in Black communities involve firearms.17 These disparities are even more striking for young Black men: gun homicides are the leading cause of death and more than outstrip the next 15 leading causes of death combined. In other words, in 2021, more Black men ages 15 to 24 died in gun homicides than from unintentional injuries, suicide, heart disease, COVID-19, cancer, nonfirearm homicides, diabetes, congenital abnormalities, and chronic respiratory diseases, police shootings, cerebrovascular diseases, anemias, sepsis, influenza and pneumonia, and HIV combined.19
- Seventy-three percent of gun deaths among Black children are gun homicides, and, in 2021, Black children were nearly 13 times more likely to be killed in a gun homicide than white children.21
Gun Violence in Black Communities
For decades, gun violence has taken a disproportionate and grueling toll on Black communities.
giffords.org
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Unfortunately you most likely believe what you posted. Scary.
Especially and conclusively now that the thread has been moved to the shit hole that is the politics board.
How bout them cowboys? Baseball looks to be clicking. I sure want Rob to prove me wrong. Oops wrong board I forgot this was a political platform.
But but Democrats care about the black community.I find it hilariously ironc that you mention fear mongering by "the right" when the "assault rifle" talk is leftist fear mongering bullshit in itself. The VAST majority of homicide in this country is black on black violence in inner cities, a demorgraphic you and your ilk pretend to care about. Wouldn't it make the most sense to reduce overall gun violence by I dunno, concentrating on the areas where the majority of it is happening? More police and violence intervention programs would be a start but no, we can't talk about black people slaughtering each other in inner cities. We gotta' focus on climate change, systemic racism, assault weapons, etc. Anything to keep our attention away from these democrat led war zones.
- Black Americans die from gun violence at 2.4 times the rate of White Americans
- Black Americans make up the majority of gun homicide victims in the US. In fact, 83% of all gun deaths among Black Americans are gun homicides.11 Despite the fact that Black boys and men account for just six percent of the total population, they comprise more than half of all gun homicide victims.12
- In the nation’s 20 largest counties, Black men ages 18 to 25 die from gun homicides at a rate nearly 19 times that of white residents.1 This disparity means that while five out of every 100,000 young white people in these counties die from gun homicides, more than one in every 10,000 young Black people are killed in such incidents.15
- Homicide has been the leading cause of death for Black men ages 15 to 44 for more than half a century.16 More than 86% of homicides in Black communities involve firearms.17 These disparities are even more striking for young Black men: gun homicides are the leading cause of death and more than outstrip the next 15 leading causes of death combined. In other words, in 2021, more Black men ages 15 to 24 died in gun homicides than from unintentional injuries, suicide, heart disease, COVID-19, cancer, nonfirearm homicides, diabetes, congenital abnormalities, and chronic respiratory diseases, police shootings, cerebrovascular diseases, anemias, sepsis, influenza and pneumonia, and HIV combined.19
- Seventy-three percent of gun deaths among Black children are gun homicides, and, in 2021, Black children were nearly 13 times more likely to be killed in a gun homicide than white children.21
Gun Violence in Black Communities
For decades, gun violence has taken a disproportionate and grueling toll on Black communities.
Since Charles Whitman, the number of Americans killed in mass shootings is around 1,500. In a nation of 330,000,000, that is a trivial amount. Definitely not worth any further infringement on my 2A rights.
Gaslighting much as if some people should not easily get guns because of mental illness, suicidal tendencies, threats to our country, or prior felony convictions?
Simply actions used by other nations to limit mass shootings and it has worked for them. We’re the outlier nation in terms of mass shootings because we refuse to do anything to try and reduce the carnage.
