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DeSantis vows to end birthright citizenship, echoing Trump

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To the best of y knowledge the current definition has never been to the SCOTUS and was determined by a government agency. Long overdue IMO. Only people born to parents that are already US citizens should be given automatic citizenship IMO.
 

To the best of y knowledge the current definition has never been to the SCOTUS and was determined by a government agency. Long overdue IMO. Only people born to parents that are already US citizens should be given automatic citizenship IMO.

Thankfully, our past leaders have righted ‘some’ of the wrongs of the past:


Birthright citizenship is guaranteed to most people born on U.S. territory by the first part of the Citizenship Clauseintroduced by the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution (adopted July 9, 1868), which states:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
The Amendment overrode the Supreme Court decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857) that denied US citizenship to African Americans, whether born in the United States or not, and whether a slave or a free person.[2] Pursuant to the Fourteenth Amendment and the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) a person born within and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States automatically acquires US citizenship, known as jus soli ("right of the soil").[3] This includes the territories of Puerto Rico, the Marianas (Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands), and the U.S. Virgin Islands.[4][5]The "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause excluded Native Americans living under tribal sovereignty, and U.S.-born children of foreign diplomats. Birthright citizenship was later extended to U.S.-born Native American subjects by the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. Federal law also grants birthright citizenship to children born elsewhere in the world to U.S. citizens (with certain exceptions), known as jus sanguinis ("right of blood").





You have gotta be the dumbest self-proclaimed CoNsTiUtiONALiSt in human history lol. I also can’t wait to see how either of Trump and DeSantis respond to the debate question one would hope the Fox News debate mods ask re: the historical necessity for birthright citizenship.




Please…by all means haha…




carry on
 
Thankfully, our past leaders have righted ‘some’ of the wrongs of the past:


Birthright citizenship is guaranteed to most people born on U.S. territory by the first part of the Citizenship Clauseintroduced by the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution (adopted July 9, 1868), which states:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
The Amendment overrode the Supreme Court decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857) that denied US citizenship to African Americans, whether born in the United States or not, and whether a slave or a free person.[2] Pursuant to the Fourteenth Amendment and the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) a person born within and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States automatically acquires US citizenship, known as jus soli ("right of the soil").[3] This includes the territories of Puerto Rico, the Marianas (Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands), and the U.S. Virgin Islands.[4][5]The "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause excluded Native Americans living under tribal sovereignty, and U.S.-born children of foreign diplomats. Birthright citizenship was later extended to U.S.-born Native American subjects by the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. Federal law also grants birthright citizenship to children born elsewhere in the world to U.S. citizens (with certain exceptions), known as jus sanguinis ("right of blood").





You have gotta be the dumbest self-proclaimed CoNsTiUtiONALiSt in human history lol. I also can’t wait to see how either of Trump and DeSantis respond to the debate question one would hope the Fox News debate mods ask re: the historical necessity for birthright citizenship.




Please…by all means haha…




carry on
Move down to south Texas you sanctimonious yank.
 
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Thankfully, our past leaders have righted ‘some’ of the wrongs of the past:


Birthright citizenship is guaranteed to most people born on U.S. territory by the first part of the Citizenship Clauseintroduced by the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution (adopted July 9, 1868), which states:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
The Amendment overrode the Supreme Court decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857) that denied US citizenship to African Americans, whether born in the United States or not, and whether a slave or a free person.[2] Pursuant to the Fourteenth Amendment and the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) a person born within and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States automatically acquires US citizenship, known as jus soli ("right of the soil").[3] This includes the territories of Puerto Rico, the Marianas (Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands), and the U.S. Virgin Islands.[4][5]The "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause excluded Native Americans living under tribal sovereignty, and U.S.-born children of foreign diplomats. Birthright citizenship was later extended to U.S.-born Native American subjects by the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. Federal law also grants birthright citizenship to children born elsewhere in the world to U.S. citizens (with certain exceptions), known as jus sanguinis ("right of blood").





You have gotta be the dumbest self-proclaimed CoNsTiUtiONALiSt in human history lol. I also can’t wait to see how either of Trump and DeSantis respond to the debate question one would hope the Fox News debate mods ask re: the historical necessity for birthright citizenship.




Please…by all means haha
Without meaning to you make the case for changing the definition of birthright citizenship. As originally intended the definition was meant to provide citizenship for people that had been slaves. Slavery was abolished well over 150 years ago. Now the law is being abused by foreigners to gain US citizenship. It was never intended to provide citizenship to people that entered the country illegally or people that came to the US to have a child so they could gain US citizenship.
 
unfortunately, CDS is correct. Doesn't matter what was intended, it's pretty clear in black and white what the amendment says. Now, can it be twisted to mean something else...probably. But, don't ever see that happening in our current world. It's gonna be abused to the max.
 
Would you a prefer a return to the Dred Scott era of yore?




carry on
Slavery has been dead for over 150 years but because Democrats know they can easily manipulate people like you they frame everything around it.

It's also interesting you have no issue redefining traditional Constitutional interpretations when it suites your needs.
 
Slavery has been dead for over 150 years (in America) but because Democrats know they can easily manipulate people like you they frame everything around it.
It's also interesting you have no issue redefining traditional Constitutional interpretations when it suites your needs.
Fify
 

To the best of y knowledge the current definition has never been to the SCOTUS and was determined by a government agency. Long overdue IMO. Only people born to parents that are already US citizens should be given automatic citizenship IMO.
What's your hot take on Puerto Rico?
 
It's an island in the Caribbean Sea full of really hot women with terrible tempers.
Dated a Puerto Rican gal for around 15 years. Their boisterous personalities can lend one to perceive they're hot tempered because they talk loud and fast. Not to say she couldn't beat my ass down. As loyal as they come though. I regret letting her go to this day.
 
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