**Afghanistan master thread**
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You don't have a clue what Biden is feeling or thinking. And using this tragedy of the death of 13 of our bravest to personally attack the President is frankly despicable.
Despicable is checking your watch in front of 13 caskets and having a pull out strategy so inept it leads to the deaths of 13 military personnel and people left behind, all for a self imposed deadline by Biden for a photo op.
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A deadline he pushed from an earlier self imposed deadline that Trump had agreed to. But don't let that factor into your rush to personally attack the President.
Trump had a plan being implemented on a schedule. Biden had only a date and did not implement a plan.
Dims on this board are pretty dim:
abcnews.go.com
Breaking from the typical polarization that characterizes public attitudes, support for U.S. troops staying is strikingly consistent across party lines. Among Republicans, Democrats and independents, overwhelming majorities -- 87%, 86% and 86%, respectively -- believe U.S. troops should not leave until all Americans are out of Afghanistan. The partisan gap is also negligible for keeping troops in Afghanistan until all Afghans who aided the United States are evacuated, with 77% of Republicans, 72% of Democrats and 70% of independents saying troops should stay until that happens.
Overwhelming bipartisan support for keeping troops in Afghanistan until all Americans, Afghans who aided US out: POLL
There is broad bipartisan support for keeping troops in Afghanistan until all Americans and Afghans who aided the U.S. have been evacuated, an ABC News/Ipsos poll finds.
Breaking from the typical polarization that characterizes public attitudes, support for U.S. troops staying is strikingly consistent across party lines. Among Republicans, Democrats and independents, overwhelming majorities -- 87%, 86% and 86%, respectively -- believe U.S. troops should not leave until all Americans are out of Afghanistan. The partisan gap is also negligible for keeping troops in Afghanistan until all Afghans who aided the United States are evacuated, with 77% of Republicans, 72% of Democrats and 70% of independents saying troops should stay until that happens.
The level of incompetency knows no bounds...Of course the first decision to not keep the airbase in Afghanistan for extraction then lead to another incompetent brain dead Joe "decision":
www.foxnews.com
Taliban offered Kabul to US, but Americans said no: report
Taliban fighters took the Afghan capital city of Kabul faster than anyone anticipated earlier this month – including the Taliban – but according to a Washington Post report, the U.S. had an opportunity to hold the city only to willingly turn it over.
Dims on this board are pretty dim:
Overwhelming bipartisan support for keeping troops in Afghanistan until all Americans, Afghans who aided US out: POLL
There is broad bipartisan support for keeping troops in Afghanistan until all Americans and Afghans who aided the U.S. have been evacuated, an ABC News/Ipsos poll finds.
Breaking from the typical polarization that characterizes public attitudes, support for U.S. troops staying is strikingly consistent across party lines. Among Republicans, Democrats and independents, overwhelming majorities -- 87%, 86% and 86%, respectively -- believe U.S. troops should not leave until all Americans are out of Afghanistan. The partisan gap is also negligible for keeping troops in Afghanistan until all Afghans who aided the United States are evacuated, with 77% of Republicans, 72% of Democrats and 70% of independents saying troops should stay until that happens.
Any bets that on 9/11 you will see American hostages paraded? That will really work wonders for the poll numbers. Then top it off some collaborators executed in the soccer stadium?
Oh and anyone arguing this was Trump's plan and he surrendered to the Taliban is a flaming ignorant scum sucking POS imbecile and uniformed to boot. You're too lazy to research this subject and know this was/is not the case.
Most likely they will behead people and post it on twitter, facebook, and youtube and they will be called peaceful protesters. And neither platforms will remove the videos or their narrative because the Taliban is not terrorists.
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The Big Lie that Joe and Jan will tell us tomorrow is that ALL Americans that wanted to get out of Afghanistan were able to get out. Despite they fact the left so ineptly they had no idea how many Americans were in Afghanistan and wanted out to begin with. Despite telling Americans to come to the Airport, and then tell them not to, how may times?
They will close the door to the last Airplane and say we got everyone out that wanted out, should have been here on time for your flight. We had approval for you from the Taliban to get you thru, they had your names and were ready to assist you. But we don't trust the Taliban, but you should.
They will close the door to the last Airplane and say we got everyone out that wanted out, should have been here on time for your flight. We had approval for you from the Taliban to get you thru, they had your names and were ready to assist you. But we don't trust the Taliban, but you should.
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Biden's idea of getting air lifted out of Kabul. Plus, that was 12 hours ago. No one dying right now, knock on wood.
ive seen a lot of polls and you can get 25% of people to say anything. The fact the @my_2cents is in the 14% is just truly amazing and a reflection of his command of current events. How many standard deviations away from the mean is mentally disabled?
At least 89% of the data will be within three standard deviations of the mean. Data beyond two standard deviations away from the mean is considered "unusual" data.
Would it have been possible for President Biden to push the date back again once things started going to hell?
You didn't have any problems with a sitting President and his entire family being personally attack with knowingly false accusations and flat out lies for four years but you have a problem with people attacking Biden for the cluster fvck he personally created in Afghanistan that cost no telling how many lives? Says it all about you.
Game that out... the US military assumes responsibility for securing all of Kabul. What happens next? Do we send in 30k troops to actually do something or do we just take the fail as various factions take their own small chunks of the city?The level of incompetency knows no bounds...Of course the first decision to not keep the airbase in Afghanistan for extraction then lead to another incompetent brain dead Joe "decision":
Taliban offered Kabul to US, but Americans said no: report
Taliban fighters took the Afghan capital city of Kabul faster than anyone anticipated earlier this month – including the Taliban – but according to a Washington Post report, the U.S. had an opportunity to hold the city only to willingly turn it over.
We sent 20,000 plus troops to protect a bunch of millionaire professional criminals in dc after a fake insurrection. Liberals priority list is always mentally ill.
He don’t have to give a shit about poll #s when the elections are rigged.
So you're saying what? Send those 20k + troops to Kabul overnight to secure the city? Or is this just gratuitous deflection (as the kids say "this is the way"?)
Possible? Certainly. Smart? Probably not.
What is the calculus here? How many more suicide attacks are worth risking to get out the 183 or so remaining American citizens? How does that risk compare to working diplomatically and covertly to exfiltrate those folks?
Saving the dogs is now part of the expectations? You probably have set the bar too high my man.
I’m saying democrats can mobilize troops to protect their rich elite so aoc doesn’t get fake raped again, but can’t seem to get the resources together to safely pull out of a 20 year war that even the pussies in Europe are appalled by.
I do tend to agree that keeping Bagram would have been a better strategic move. Hindsight tends to be 20/20 - especially when there is no way to actually know what would have happened differently.The level of incompetency knows no bounds...Of course the first decision to not keep the airbase in Afghanistan for extraction then lead to another incompetent brain dead Joe "decision":
Taliban offered Kabul to US, but Americans said no: report
Taliban fighters took the Afghan capital city of Kabul faster than anyone anticipated earlier this month – including the Taliban – but according to a Washington Post report, the U.S. had an opportunity to hold the city only to willingly turn it over.
That is sufficiently vague and off-topic to feel safe, isn't it?
Take a stance, it's a hypothetical question after all.
Should the US have taken responsibility for securing Kabul when the Afghan government folded and the ANA headed for the hills?
The biggest problem with the mission it never factored in worst case scenarios that they created AND they never intended to protect all Americans and our Allies. Our Failure In Chief who swore an oath to protect American Citizens actually admitted he priced in to his planned chaos innocents dying and people dying falling off of aircraft. He failed his oath of office, he left Americans to die.
They gave up Kabul for the Taliban to protect Kabul, they did that when they hunkered down in the Airport and Taliban created their own check points.
They messed up on Kabul months ago, they kept 100,000 Taliban terrorists at check with 2,500 soldiers. Every time they took an inch, we use to strike them with F-18's. They moved back. That is what Trump negotiated. The constant checking of the electrical fence finally told them sleepy Joe was doing nothing and they rushed the provinces unabated. Totally predictable. Had they kept the Airbase they could have kept the Taliban in check (Joe had no guts to do that) while getting everyone out and the Military leaving last from a secured Military Airbase with a much smaller yet much more secure perimeter to defend.
Evacuating thru Kabul with the Taliban in charge made it harder to identify friend from foe, and required people to risk going thru thousands of hostiles to make it to the airport.
You are an idiot, and that is putting it kindly. But you reside in the 14% of this country that disagrees with the other 86%.
Our country has not agreed on anything here of late at a 86% clip, your ego can't stand the fact you voted for the worst Prez in history. Rebuked by the UK and now distrusted by our Allies.
At least 4 families of the 13 who died refused to talk to this narcistic POS that prefers to talk about his own son dying than wanting to know about those that died, he wants them to know that no one has suffered more than him, typical lib victimhood mentality. Go check your watch again Prez. And oh yeah, you even failed military practice of the CIC saluting the deceased as they come off the plane, again all about you Prez, put your hand over your heart.
Cut your losses, but like your Prez you are too invested now in a failed evacuation and you are taking a victory lap. Like our Prez, your ego and lack of humility knows no bounds.
I’ll take you one further. The military leadership and intelligence leadership should have known they were going to fold, used trumps agreement that was working as no Americans were being targeted and secured Kabul BEFORE the ANA headed for the hills.
I would hope you see how contradictory these two assertions are:
They never factored in the worst-case scenarios
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They admit they priced in innocents dying
The military is chocked full of folks game planning every possible scenario. It is much more likely IMO that the "strategists" weren't able to come to a clear consensus and left it to the politicians. I hope the backstory on this whole thing gets exposed.
Im sure your company as well as your ilk are working around the clock to make sure l o fvcking l.
