Seems if he wants to truly expose the past misdeeds he would make the source material available to journalists outside the small group currently sifting through it. CIA allegations for instance warrant a deeper dive.
Right. Unless he does things the way David thinks he should do them then nothing being reported should be taken seriously. Musk just looks silly. Past misdeeds aren’t past misdeeds until @davidallen confirms them.Seems if he wants to truly expose the past misdeeds he would make the source material available to journalists outside the small group currently sifting through it. CIA allegations for instance warrant a deeper dive.
How dare David meet elon's boasts of transparency with a call of transparency. What's your objection to transparency?Right. Unless he does things the way David thinks he should do them then nothing being reported should be taken seriously. Musk just looks silly. Past misdeeds aren’t past misdeeds until @davidallen confirms them.
Seems if he wants to truly expose the past misdeeds he would make the source material available to journalists outside the small group currently sifting through it. CIA allegations for instance warrant a deeper dive.
It seems to me the reporting by objective journalists, Matt Taibbi on the left and Bari Weiss from the center-right as well as others, have been pretty darn transparent in their reporting. People like you and @davidallen would be better served if you just ate your humble pie without comment.How dare David meet elon's boasts of transparency with a call of transparency. What's your objection to transparency?
Here’s a ten minute video of Russell Brand talking with Bari Weiss about this topic, Sys, and it should (but probably won’t) embarrass you and @davidallen for your juvenile and hopelessly warped reaction to seeing your team get caught with your hands in the cookie jar. Think of this as a learning/growing experience. It’s leading you to water, now drink deeply and grow up!How dare David meet elon's boasts of transparency with a call of transparency. What's your objection to transparency?
It seems to me the reporting by objective journalists, Matt Taibbi on the left and Bari Weiss from the center-right as well as others, have been pretty darn transparent n their reporting. People like you and @davidallen would be better served if you just ate your humble pie without comment.
I can't get my head around Elon's self-destruction. Twitter is unraveling in real time, Tesla's stock is losing a ton of value, he's censoring people left and right on twitter.... I wish someone would explain to me how he's being smart.
Is David's request for transparency unreasonable?
David’s request is buffoonery. The reporting on the Twitter Files is as transparent as it gets. You and David are just in a mad scramble to roil up the scandal as much as possible to throw doubt in people’s minds, make them question what they’re seeing with their own eyes. On one level it is understandable that you want to protect your team from shame, but it is beyond disturbing that you’re willing to accept authoritarianism and tyranny toward that end. For me it is shocking to see two people as obviously intelligent as you and David are be that beholden to your team’s winning at such a detrimental cost to our society. As Tulsi Gabbard put it to George Santos: “Have you no shame?”I can't get my head around Elon's self-destruction. Twitter is unraveling in real time, Tesla's stock is losing a ton of value, he's censoring people left and right on twitter.... I wish someone would explain to me how he's being smart.
Is David's request for transparency unreasonable?
Care about Twitter again huh?Right. Unless he does things the way David thinks he should do them then nothing being reported should be taken seriously. Musk just looks silly. Past misdeeds aren’t past misdeeds until @davidallen confirms them.
Seems if he wants to truly expose the past misdeeds he would make the source material available to journalists outside the small group currently sifting through it. CIA allegations for instance warrant a deeper dive.
How in the world can you claim a request that more people have access to these so-called files is buffoonery?David’s request is buffoonery.
Yet, you are now in a mad scramble to oppose more transparency regarding these so-called files. If these so-called files are what you think they are, you shouldn't have any problem with more journalists viewing them. You should be welcoming this opportunity.You and David are just in a mad scramble to roil up the scandal as much as possible to throw doubt in people’s minds, make them question what they’re seeing with their own eyes.
And perhaps this is also about your team winning too. Because, currently, you are the one opposing more transparency regarding these so-called files. You want one man in control of what is given out and controlling who is able to view what he wants to give out. Sounds a lot like authoritarian leadership.On one level it is understandable that you want to protect your team from shame, but it is beyond disturbing that you’re willing to accept authoritarianism and tyranny toward that end. For me it is shocking to see two people as obviously intelligent as you and David are be that beholden to your team’s winning at such a detrimental cost to our society.
How in the world can you claim a request that more people have access to these so-called files is buffoonery?
What are you afraid of here? One would think if you believe the so-called Twitter files are as serious as you think they are, you would welcome more journalists viewing them, more people having access to them, etc. Also, you would want all the files released. Why all of a sudden so you oppose full transparency?
Yet, you are now in a mad scramble to oppose more transparency regarding these so-called files. If these so-called files are what you think they are, you shouldn't have any problem with more journalists viewing them. You should be welcoming this opportunity.
Again, what are you afraid of here?
And perhaps this is also about your team winning too. Because, currently, you are the one opposing more transparency regarding these so-called files. You want one man in control of what is given out and controlling who is able to view what he wants to give out. Sounds a lot like authoritarian leadership.
As usual, you are just fine with such leadership style when it benefits your political agenda. While expressing faux outrage when you think you see such leadership from those you disagree with politically.
WTF. Have you not seen the releases showing the Trump administration was doing the same? While I haven't seen anything along the lines of what looks like nefarious reasons on the part of Democrats, the fact of the matter is both Republicans and Democrats were working with Big Tech to censor free speech. That should concern any freedom loving American no matter your politics.Care about Twitter again huh?
Simple exercise for you. Pretend for a moment that Musk is a partisan Democrat whose target with these releases is Tulsi Gabbard. Then ask yourself, would you be calling for more transparency? Would you be agreeing with David's suggestion that all of the so-called files should be released to more than just a few journalists?
We both know you would be doing exactly that, of course. Your inability to simply agree with David's reasonable request now says a lot about your current motivations.
I think perhaps you are unaware of the definition of the word “faux.” You use that word often and almost every time inappropriately. My outrage against the minions of statism is not “faux.”How in the world can you claim a request that more people have access to these so-called files is buffoonery?
What are you afraid of here? One would think if you believe the so-called Twitter files are as serious as you think they are, you would welcome more journalists viewing them, more people having access to them, etc. Also, you would want all the files released. Why all of a sudden so you oppose full transparency?
Yet, you are now in a mad scramble to oppose more transparency regarding these so-called files. If these so-called files are what you think they are, you shouldn't have any problem with more journalists viewing them. You should be welcoming this opportunity.
Again, what are you afraid of here?
And perhaps this is also about your team winning too. Because, currently, you are the one opposing more transparency regarding these so-called files. You want one man in control of what is given out and controlling who is able to view what he wants to give out. Sounds a lot like authoritarian leadership.
As usual, you are just fine with such leadership style when it benefits your political agenda. While expressing faux outrage when you think you see such leadership from those you disagree with politically.
Have a hard time dealing with the truth huh?thanks for a post validating why you are on ignore
Versus the Authoritarian method used for the last few years of silencing conservative voices and hiding the fact government was involved in silencing those voices?How in the world can you claim a request that more people have access to these so-called files is buffoonery?
What are you afraid of here? One would think if you believe the so-called Twitter files are as serious as you think they are, you would welcome more journalists viewing them, more people having access to them, etc. Also, you would want all the files released. Why all of a sudden so you oppose full transparency?
Yet, you are now in a mad scramble to oppose more transparency regarding these so-called files. If these so-called files are what you think they are, you shouldn't have any problem with more journalists viewing them. You should be welcoming this opportunity.
Again, what are you afraid of here?
And perhaps this is also about your team winning too. Because, currently, you are the one opposing more transparency regarding these so-called files. You want one man in control of what is given out and controlling who is able to view what he wants to give out. Sounds a lot like authoritarian leadership.
As usual, you are just fine with such leadership style when it benefits your political agenda. While expressing faux outrage when you think you see such leadership from those you disagree with politically.
Why are you so afraid of someone other than a conservative reading these files and potentially (gasp) disproving their narratives?Versus the Authoritarian method used for the last few years of silencing conservative voices and hiding the fact government was involved in silencing those voices?
And if this is what you believe, then again, even more reason for you to agree with David's original request. More people viewing the so-called files. More transparency.the fact of the matter is both Republicans and Democrats were working with Big Tech to censor free speech. That should concern any freedom loving American no matter your politics.
So Musk now gets to decide which journalists are now trustworthy? While playing banning games with other ones?As to releasing these files to more than a few journalist who do you suggest? There are not many out there that can be trusted to report just the facts.
You might want to do a little more research into the journalist Musk has given access to, they are not conservative or Republicans.Why are you so afraid of someone other than a conservative reading these files and potentially (gasp) disproving their narratives?
Do you understand how snowflaky that is?
Sure it is. As faux as it comes.My outrage against the minions of statism is not “faux.”
I ask which journalist you would like to have access. Lets see who you think would be best to report this to the American People.And if this is what you believe, then again, even more reason for you to agree with David's original request. More people viewing the so-called files. More transparency.
Why fight against such a simple and reasonable request?
So Musk now gets to decide which journalists are now trustworthy? While playing banning games with other ones?
And yet, you want us to believe you truly care about free speech and transparency.🤣🤣
Again, even more reason for you to support full transparency regarding these so-called files.Versus the Authoritarian method used for the last few years of silencing conservative voices and hiding the fact government was involved in silencing those voices?
Remember it was Democrats, Big Tech, the MSM and Democrat voters that told us all conservatives were not being censored and there was no way government was involved.
Bingo.disproving their narratives?
Why are you dodging the question? List a couple of your preferred journalist you trust to provide the facts to your satisfaction.Again, even more reason for you to support full transparency regarding these so-called files.
Yet, here you are, playing stupid games and arguing against full transparency. This is why hardly anyone is taking any of this serious currently, outside your right-wing group think.
Bingo.
More transparency means Musk loses control of the narrative. More transparency means right-wingers like @2012Bearcat and @Ponca Dan may have to be confronted with narratives they don't want to consider.
All of them. Make the so-called files available to all journalists. All of the files too, not just the ones Musk chooses to release.List a couple of your preferred journalist you trust to provide the facts to your satisfaction.
Support the calls for full transparency first.What narrative do we not want to be confronted with?
All of them. Make the so-called files available to all journalists. All of the files too, not just the ones Musk chooses to release.
Lay it all out there Musk. Have a news conference and turn over everything.
And if this is as serious as you want to believe it is, why would you oppose such actions?
i’m sure the venerable lesli stall is first on this morons listWhy are you dodging the question? List a couple of your preferred journalist you trust to provide the facts to your satisfaction.
We are getting far more transparancy than we've had for years. Remember your side of the aisle said it was all a conspiracy theory conservative were having their speech censored. What you really want is to control the information like they have for years. Now you no longer control that information you are crying there is no transparency? LMAO. Welcome to the world we lived in for the last few years.Support the calls for full transparency first.
Can you do that?
Even more reason for full transparency.Besides the MSM is doing everything they can to avoid reporting anything that has been released, they would just bury the information they didn't want out there.
Oh the information is getting out there to the people despite the best efforts of the leftist media. I do find it hilarious you lefties are only now crying about transparency when you do not control the information.Even more reason for full transparency.
You are struggling right now Bearcat.
Not at all. I'm not the one supporting one man controlling what information is released and who he releases it to. That is what you are doing.What you really want is to control the information like they have for years.
Do you understand the first - and primary - journalist Musk approached, Matt Taibbi, is a leftist?Why are you so afraid of someone other than a conservative reading these files and potentially (gasp) disproving their narratives?
Do you understand how snowflaky that is?
Not at all. I'm not the one supporting one man controlling what information is released and who he releases it to. That is what you are doing.
It is hilarious though watching you now argue against full transparency. I'll keep this in mind next time you start ranting about full transparency on other issues that align with your political agenda.
He doesn’t.Do you understand the first - and primary - journalist Musk approached, Matt Taibbi, is a leftist?