Voter fraud v. Russia

[Alpha Poke]

The president tells America that he will not uphold the laws of the United States and prosecute if you vote as an illegal.

Audio and video evidence of voter fraud by citizen journalists.

Zero play, shot down by every MSM outlet and lib as nonsense.

Russia - zero evidence, kept on the front burner by the same dicks.

 

[Rdcldad]

go through countries with tangible fact based influence in the 16 election

saudi donations to the clinton foundation
mexican consulates openly campaigning and organizing for hildebeast

consider tangible evidence of
united states influence in foreign elections
of obamas campaigning for the frog PM

contrast that with the russian boogeyman

it's mind numbing how effing stupid this whole allocation of resources and intellect has been

 

[Rdcldad]

trump should call this crap out for what it is say you all have a good time

i've got work to do to maga

 

[Rdcldad]

as if on cue

this wsj lady on face the nation just points out

trump is at liberty u with the maga hats and cheering crowds

the conversation we are having about comey and russia is not the conversation america is having

yea no shit swamp lady

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

Drain the Swamp. If Trump is smart, he will get uber busy on that concept. Firing Comey was a good first start.

 

[CowboyJD]

You guys seem REALLY threatened by the spectre of the investigation. Multiple posts practically screaming shut it down, shut it down, please God....shut it down.

If there is nothing there to be found, nothing will be found.

Relax.

 

[Alpha Poke]

How does pointing out hipocracy translate to fear?

Why does an obvious breach of the law not bother you here where there's evidence?

 

[Alpha Poke]

This probably a better question.

What had more impact on the election, Russia or the illegal vote?

Look at the numbers.

 

[windriverrange]

JD I think whoever believes this will continue to believe it no matter what an investigation finds, just like JFK was killed by the US gov't, Global Warming is real, Alien bodies are being kept by the US Military in NM and the moon landing was staged.

This IMHO is an attempt by the media, John McCain and liberals to keep this in the news for the next election cycle and that's it. They still are gobsmacked that the Hildabeast lost the election and the only way that could of happened is for someone to have cheated her out of her rightful spot in history.

I don't believe any of it and am in no way scared of the outcome. Unlike our liberal board members though, if it turns out something did happen those who participated need to be punished. If it weaves its way all the way to Trump he needs to be removed from office.

 

[CowboyJD]

How does pointing out hipocracy translate to fear?

Why does an obvious breach of the law not bother you here where there's evidence?

Huge strawman.

Quote me ANYWHERE sayinging an obvious breach of the law not bother me.

You won't, because you can't.

Nz Poke had a very good meme about it.

It's call "Whataboutism".

If there is very obvious voter fraud, prosecute it. Doesn't have anything to do with continuing the Russia investigation or not though.

 

[CowboyJD]

This probably a better question.

What had more impact on the election, Russia or the illegal vote?

Look at the numbers.

Whataboutism.

I don't know the answer to this question.

And despite you repeating Trump talking points lock, stock, and barrel over and over.....neither do you.

Why not fully investigate them both and find out?

 

[Alpha Poke]

I must've missed the numerous daily posts where you were keeping this on people's minds just in case.

 

[Alpha Poke]

Here's what we know without any inkling of doubt.

Illegal immigrants voted in this election.

There is no evidence tying Trump to the Russians. Verified by people that hate Trumps guts.

How can you not know the answer?

You might not like the answer but you know it.

 

[MegaPoke]

You guys seem REALLY threatened by the spectre of the investigation. Multiple posts practically screaming shut it down, shut it down, please God....shut it down.

If there is nothing there to be found, nothing will be found.

Relax.

I don't think anyone feels personally threatened by it. Frankly not sure how it's that different from pizzagate at this point. Seems to be about as much concrete evidence tying Trump to Russian collusion, and I think people are sick of the transparent purpose it actually serves still being taken seriously.

To me the Russia thing comes across as one of those movie set western towns where the buildings are all just fronts propped up by sandbags and 2x4's. All for show.

 

[Alpha Poke]

What's weird is how Kushners Russian ties are treated by the MSM.

No big deal, just looking for back channels.

They've pitched a f'n fit about every Russian contact unless you gender identify as a (D)*. Makes me wonder about that dude.

*just kinda grey with a hint of the gay

 

[CowboyJD]

I don't think anyone feels personally threatened by it. Frankly not sure how it's that different from pizzagate at this point. Seems to be about as much concrete evidence tying Trump to Russian collusion, and I think people are sick of the transparent purpose it actually serves still being taken seriously.

To me the Russia thing comes across as one of those movie set western towns where the buildings are all just fronts propped up by sandbags and 2x4's. All for show.

We are see many more threads started about nothing to Russia than we ever did threads started specifically referencing pizzagate.

If you're not sure it's different than pizzagate, I'll tell you one way it is....I didn't see you starting threads dismissing pizzagate.

 

[CowboyJD]

I must've missed the numerous daily posts where you were keeping this on people's minds just in case.

I don't engage in Whataboutism like you are.

My comments on Russia are SOLELY and exclusively in response to people like you repeatedly posting about Russia.

It's the anti-Russia people that are starting all the Russia threads, honestly.

 

[Alpha Poke]

You keep them all going with speculation.

 

[CowboyJD]

Here's what we know without any inkling of doubt.

Illegal immigrants voted in this election.

There is no evidence tying Trump to the Russians. Verified by people that hate Trumps guts.

How can you not know the answer?

You might not like the answer but you know it.

More circular arguing again. No evidence yet = no evidence ever therefore stop the investigation which will insure there wil,never ever be any evidence.

Besides your question was who had a greater effect on the election Russia "not Trump/Russian collusion"....those are two different things. Some of the same people you are quoting as verifying no collusion evidence: 1. Have said to date, and 2. Definitively said Russia hacked Hill's e-mails....which was then dismissed by people like you.

 

[CowboyJD]

You keep them all going with speculation.

Oh Jesus Christ.....I'm responsible for YOU starting this thread because I respond when you do?

Herp to the fracking derp there.

 

[MegaPoke]

We are see many more threads started about nothing to Russia than we ever did threads started specifically referencing pizzagate.

If you're not sure it's different than pizzagate, I'll tell you one way it is....I didn't see you starting threads dismissing pizzagate.

Pizzagate petered out on its own lack of merit - as such things should. I dismissed it a long time ago. Starting a thread to dismiss it would've been redundant.

If people were still making pizzagate a thing to the same degree this Russia stuff is, dontcha think there would be a shit ton of threads with peopling wondering why? There absolutely would be.

The big difference is this is being artificially propped up. It was on Life support until Trump fired Comey.

 

[CowboyJD]

Pizzagate petered out on its own lack of merit - as such things should. I dismissed it a long time ago. Starting a thread to dismiss it would've been redundant.

If people were still making pizzagate a thing to the same degree this Russia stuff is, dontcha think there would be a shit ton of threads with peopling wondering why? There absolutely would be.

The big difference is this is being artificially propped up. It was on Life support until Trump fired Comey.

NZ still posts pizzagate related claims about a sex ring and sex ring arrests.

On life support until Trump fired Comey? Kinda like petering out on its own....and yet we still see repeated threads dismissing it from different folks.

You're applying different standards, IMO.

 

[CowboyJD]

You keep them all going with speculation.

Oh Jesus Christ.....I'm responsible for YOU starting this thread because I respond when you do?

Herp to the fracking derp there.

Pizzagate petered out on its own lack of merit - as such things should. I dismissed it a long time ago. Starting a thread to dismiss it would've been redundant.

If people were still making pizzagate a thing to the same degree this Russia stuff is, dontcha think there would be a shit ton of threads with peopling wondering why? There absolutely would be.

The big difference is this is being artificially propped up. It was on Life support until Trump fired Comey.

Front page count....5 explicit Trump/Russia collusions topics....two by you, one by Alpha, three by Guns. None by Sys, DA, Been Jammin.

Mega says it was on life support until Trump fired Comey (I would add and tweets often about Russia, and basically referenced Russia when asked why he fired Comey)....hell, even I tended to agree with my "start your I told you soon post.

Maybe...just maybe....Trump/Russia collusion hasn't petered out.....because Trump and you guys keep talking about it and shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[Alpha Poke]

Oh Jesus Christ.....I'm responsible for YOU starting this thread because I respond when you do?

Herp to the fracking derp there.

No dude, you're basically the only opposition in any Russia thread.

And you ride it into the ground every time.

I only posted about this shit in the last couple of days. You've been posting the same stuff despite a evidence to the contrary since the beginning ignoring actual shit that impacted the election and presidency.

 

[CowboyJD]

No dude, you're basically the only opposition in in Russia thread.

And you ride it into the ground every time.

I only posted about this shit in the last couple of days. You've been posting the same stuff despite a evidence to the contrary since the beginning ignoring actual shit that impacted the election and presidency.

Basically, you're whining about responding with something other than saying you are absolutely right. You want your echo chamber and you want it now. Duly noted.

You are seriously out of touch with reality if you think I am the only opposition.

5 Trump/Russia collusion threads on front page. Your's. Two by Mega. Three by Guns. Maybe if you guys stopped posted about Trump/Russia, you wouldn't get any responses you didn't like.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

No dude, you're basically the only opposition in any Russia thread.

And you ride it into the ground every time.

I only posted about this shit in the last couple of days. You've been posting the same stuff despite a evidence to the contrary since the beginning ignoring actual shit that impacted the election and presidency.

No, there's plenty of opposition, but nobody can stand the "whatabout emails" responses and fantasy. Reasonable people have to leave, brain shower and return. I for one can take just so much pro-nazi, "biff is brilliant", conspiracy bullshit before I have to go detox.

Flynn is probably about to get indicted, maybe manaforte too. Think they'll stand up tall and refuse to throw anyone under the bus? That'll just be more msm conspiracy, huh?

 

[Alpha Poke]

I am absolutly right, just looking for that intellectual honesty to be applied to the obvious shit.

 

[CowboyJD]

I am absolutly right, just looking for that intellectual honesty to be applied to the obvious shit.

You really are just wanting an echo chamber.

 

[Alpha Poke]

More circular arguing again. No evidence yet = no evidence ever therefore stop the investigation which will insure there wil,never ever be any evidence.

Besides your question was who had a greater effect on the election Russia "not Trump/Russian collusion"....those are two different things. Some of the same people you are quoting as verifying no collusion evidence: 1. Have said to date, and 2. Definitively said Russia hacked Hill's e-mails....which was then dismissed by people like you.

What server was hacked, hers or one protected by the US govt? Was the 'hack' a phishing scam on a moron that had access to her personal illegal server?

Clintons actions seem more damaging to us than Russia using sophomoric tricks on careless fools.

Clinton and Podestas flaunting of the law and and their own stupidity enabled the "hack."

We should probably investigate this. Without being given the answers beforehand this time.

 

[Alpha Poke]

You really are just wanting an echo chamber.

Thats hilarious. Do you need a mirror?

 

[CowboyJD]

Thats hilarious. Do you need a mirror?

Where have I whined like a little biotch (like you are doing now) about people disagreeing with me?

I like people to disagree with me.

 

[MegaPoke]

Front page count....5 explicit Trump/Russia collusions topics....two by you, one by Alpha, three by Guns. None by Sys, DA, Been Jammin.

Mega says it was on life support until Trump fired Comey (I would add and tweets often about Russia, and basically referenced Russia when asked why he fired Comey)....hell, even I tended to agree with my "start your I told you soon post.

Maybe...just maybe....Trump/Russia collusion hasn't petered out.....because Trump and you guys keep talking about it and shooting yourself in the foot.

Seems pretty clear it is the Washington political/media establishment transparently keeping it alive, and I hate the establishment - therefore I comment regularly on their pet propaganda project.

I also find it highly insulting to the FBI agents who ARE investigating legit Russia stuff to suggest dismissing Comey covers up Trump's collusion which now requires a special investigator - as many in the establishment media have implied, suggested or flat out claimed.

The establishment uniparty and their media propaganda arm can eat a bag of dicks and need to be held to account.

 

[Alpha Poke]

It's spelled winning.

 

[CowboyJD]

What server was hacked, hers or one protected by the US govt? Was the 'hack' a phishing scam on a moron that had access to her personal illegal server?

Clintons actions seem more damaging to us than Russia using sophomoric tricks on careless fools.

Clinton and Podestas flaunting of the law and and their own stupidity enabled the "hack."

We should probably investigate this. Without being given the answers beforehand this time.

You really are all over the place. I thought we were talking Russia v illegal immigrant voter fraud. Seems you've moved on.

Russian Hacking Investigation report:

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

Hillary Clinton e-mail investigation timeline.

https://sharylattkisson.com/hillary-clintons-email-the-definitive-timeline/

You want the Russian collusion investigation stopped, but think we need new investigations into the other two.

I get you love Trump and hate Hill with a white hot passion. I don't like either one of them. That's a big difference between the two of us.

 

[CowboyJD]

Seems pretty clear it is the Washington political/media establishment transparently keeping it alive, and I hate the establishment - therefore I comment regularly on their pet propaganda project.

I also find it highly insulting to the FBI agents who ARE investigating legit Russia stuff to suggest dismissing Comey covers up Trump's collusion which now requires a special investigator - as many in the establishment media have implied, suggested or flat out claimed.

The establishment uniparty and their media propaganda arm can eat a bag of dicks and need to be held to account.

Didn't you say it was on life support before Trump fired Comey? The only people transparently keeping it alive here, on this board, re you, Alpha, and Guns.

It was my understanding that it was your position that there is NO "legit Russia stuff" to investigate. That is certainly the position of Guns and Alpha. Suggesting that is as equally or more insulting to those same FBI Agents IMO.

I've been up close and personal political pressure and influence be placed on an agency and its agents in an attempt to influence or end an investigation. It's not fun. It's not pretty. IMO, stating that an independent investigator might be in order isn't a questioning of the agents doing the investigations honor and integrity, it's suggesting means to protect and insulate their honorable actions from further dishonorable action against them in the future.

 

[Alpha Poke]

I don't want any investigation stopped. I want whatever is best for me and America. Me mainly.

I don't love Trump and I've said It a million times he represents the bad business that needs to go away.

You moved the conversation don't know why that would confuse you.

 

[CowboyJD]

It's spelled winning.

It's so cute when your analysis and logic breaks down to it's fundamental core....Trump won so stop questioning him.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

Seems pretty clear it is the Washington political/media establishment transparently keeping it alive, and I hate the establishment - therefore I comment regularly on their pet propaganda project.

I also find it highly insulting to the FBI agents who ARE investigating legit Russia stuff to suggest dismissing Comey covers up Trump's collusion which now requires a special investigator - as many in the establishment media have implied, suggested or flat out claimed.

The establishment uniparty and their media propaganda arm can eat a bag of dicks and need to be held to account.

Yep. Spot on. I believe people are on to it, though.

 

[CowboyJD]

I don't want any investigation stopped. I want whatever is best for me and America. Me mainly.

I don't love Trump and I've said It a million times he represents the bad business that needs to go away.

You moved the conversation don't know why that would confuse you.

Oh lord....

You have posted endlessly about the stopping or ending the collusion investigation.

I didn't move the conversation. I didn't bring up Hillary until responding to you doing so.

You don't love Trump....good one.

 

[Alpha Poke]

I never said stop,the investigation. Ever.

I want the news people/politicians to stop pushing a narrative that doesn't exist to this point and report the real shit that's going on. The real crimes against the republic. The stuff that this bullshit detracts/distracts from.