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Crazy scene.

They accidentally revealed their true Bolshevik / Marxist revolutionary goals when they say “Abolish ICE.”


 
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these people chant shame shame

you can’t fix the level of stupid

well trumps trying
 
ICE is such an important American institution. I don't think the US could exist without it.
It probably could work if we would cease providing benefits to illegal immigrants. I certainly understand and agree it is more humane to provide benefits, but it is extremely costly.
And then who do liberals feel should be required to pay for these benefits ... the evil people that earn more than $200k
 
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It probably could work if we would cease providing benefits to illegal immigrants. I certainly understand and agree it is more humane to provide benefits, but it is extremely costly.
And then who do liberals feel should be required to pay for these benefits ... the evil people that earn more than $200k

If you think the welfare costs of an open border can be covered by only taxing those who make $200K or more, I've got a bridge to sell you. It will take Sweden level taxes (68% rates on anyone who makes more than about $70K). And frankly, even that may not be enough if we continue with Medicaid expansion programs (given the consistent rise in medical costs).
 
If you think the welfare costs of an open border can be covered by only taxing those who make $200K or more, I've got a bridge to sell you. It will take Sweden level taxes (68% rates on anyone who makes more than about $70K). And frankly, even that may not be enough if we continue with Medicaid expansion programs (given the consistent rise in medical costs).
Wrong.
 
It probably could work if we would cease providing benefits to illegal immigrants. I certainly understand and agree it is more humane to provide benefits, but it is extremely costly.
And then who do liberals feel should be required to pay for these benefits ... the evil people that earn more than $200k
I wonder how we managed before 2002?
 
"No borders, no walls, sanctuary for all." A friend of mine from Oklahoma who now lives in Minneapolis put an article on facebook months ago about "the case for open borders to end white privilege." These lunatics would import tens of millions of low-skilled, non-English speaking folks tomorrow if they could.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kirstjen-nielsen-protesters-mexican-restaurant

What are your thoughts on avocado farmers who can’t find labor? You think Americans are filling those jobs?
 
You have more insights than "wrong"? Do you think an open border policy doesn't cost us anything?
No, I don't think your generalized fiscal hand wringing and pulling numbers out of your ass warrants anything more than "wrong."
 
ICE creation has nothing to do with benefits. 2002 just consolidated agencies under Homeland Security.
I remember before 2002 the crisis due to all the illegal aliens and the benefits they were getting.
 
I remember before 2002 the crisis due to all the illegal aliens and the benefits they were getting.
It has not and is not a new issue. Just an issue that is growing. Shoot, just look at Oklahoma public schools and the percentage increase in illegal immigrant students the last 15 years.

ICE as a name is new. But border patrol and custom agencies are not. Just all under one name and brand. 2002 has nothing to do with anything.
 
Um that's the year ICE was created.
Lefties have a solution for ICE.

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Clinton Scott definitely approves.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/19/occupy-wall-street-advocates-killing-ice-agents/
 
It has not and is not a new issue. Just an issue that is growing. Shoot, just look at Oklahoma public schools and the percentage increase in illegal immigrant students the last 15 years.

ICE as a name is new. But border patrol and custom agencies are not. Just all under one name and brand. 2002 has nothing to do with anything.
USCIS and CBP still exist. Abolishing ICE does not eliminate the functions INS performed prior to 2002.
 
What do you think changed then? I think you are not realizing all the benefits paid by tax payers that illegal immigrants consume.

There was a mistake in my statement. I said 68% when in reality, its 56%. I'll own that. Otherwise, my statement stands. But maybe you believe that an open borders and public welfare state can fiscally co-exist. If so, that would explain why you voted one party and I voted the other.
 
There was a mistake in my statement. I said 68% when in reality, its 56%. I'll own that. Otherwise, my statement stands. But maybe you believe that an open borders and public welfare state can fiscally co-exist. If so, that would explain why you voted one party and I voted the other.
Lower.
 
Only Republicans are allowed to work for the federal government.
 
There was a mistake in my statement. I said 68% when in reality, its 56%. I'll own that. Otherwise, my statement stands. But maybe you believe that an open borders and public welfare state can fiscally co-exist. If so, that would explain why you voted one party and I voted the other.
Not sure why you quoted me. Believe you meant to quote 07Pilt.
 
How do Scandinavian tax rates relate to abolishing ICE?
I said nothing about abolishing ICE, nor did I respond to that tangent on the thread. I was referring to cable's reference that we would tax people making over 200K to pay for the open borders policy with a statement that it would take a significantly larger tax base, with which you replied with the high quality, one word statement: "wrong". But I noticed that you seemed to have changed your track in that regard since I provided my evidence of the 56% tax rate @ 75K income.
 
"No borders, no walls, sanctuary for all." A friend of mine from Oklahoma who now lives in Minneapolis put an article on facebook months ago about "the case for open borders to end white privilege." These lunatics would import tens of millions of low-skilled, non-English speaking folks tomorrow if they could.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kirstjen-nielsen-protesters-mexican-restaurant
Maybe they would if they could, but they can't. Not because of any border protection, but because there aren't tens of millions of jobs for them to have. You may not believe this, but the overwhelming majority of the low skilled immigrants that come here from south of our border are here for the work. Most of them don't even know about the "welfare" that is available for them until they get here. Many of them are very poorly educated, don't speak English. Some of them can't read. They come here because it is a land of opportunity for them to better their circumstances. I work beside them every day. They are the hardest working, least complaining, generally happy people you could know.
 
You have more insights than "wrong"? Do you think an open border policy doesn't cost us anything?
He's a socialist. Sweden is the mecca for socialists to point to. That's what he thinks is wrong. Sweden is what every country should be.
 
I said nothing about abolishing ICE, nor did I respond to that tangent on the thread. I was referring to cable's reference that we would tax people making over 200K to pay for the open borders policy with a statement that it would take a significantly larger tax base, with which you replied with the high quality, one word statement: "wrong". But I noticed that you seemed to have changed your track in that regard since I provided my evidence of the 56% tax rate @ 75K income.
Any evidence that we would need to match Scandinavian tax rates?
 
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