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Vet question re: geriatric canine cruciate tear

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When a geriatric dog blows a hind cruciate ligament, are there any strong opinions on whether it's better to have one of the surgeries or rehab it? If a surgery, which one? My vet walked me through the options and there's so much drilling, sawing, etc. I was intimidated by it, particularly with an arthritic, geriatric dog. If we do a surgery, I have no idea which one is best. Some internet articles say that the best option is to rehab it without surgery.

Many thanks.
 
13ish?

Heeler (mostly)

45 - 50 lbs now - heavier b/f but been on a pretty strict for weight control.

Thank you -- are you a vet?

Yes. Small animal practice in Plano, TX.

If I were your vet, I would recommend the extracapsular repair procedure. I generally recommend it in small dogs, because it tends to hold up just fine and is significantly less expensive than the TPLO procedure. I, generally, recommend TPLO in larger dogs, because I find that heavier dogs do better with it than they do with extracapsular repair. Your dog is in the grey area (weight-wise), where I can see going either way.

But, my thinking is that it probably doesn't make sense to invest the extra money into an older patient, who is not likely to be around 5+ years.

As far as rehab goes, I have seen cases where owners opted to not have surgery and the dog eventually developed scar tissue and stopped limping, but it usually takes 9+ months to get to that point, and I think it would be a very difficult 9+ months for a dog that is geriatric and arthritic. If he can't use 1 rear limb, he is putting extra weight on his other 3 and is probably going to endure a lot of pain. Good chance it results in him rupturing his other cranial cruciate ligament, and you would end up having to euthanize him.
 
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Yes. Small animal practice in Plano, TX.

If I were your vet, I would recommend the extracapsular repair procedure. I generally recommend it in small dogs, because it tends to hold up just fine and is significantly less expensive than the TPLO procedure. I, generally, recommend TPLO in larger dogs, because I find that heavier dogs do better with it than they do with extracapsular repair. Your dog is in the grey area (weight-wise), where I can see going either way.

But, my thinking is that it probably doesn't make sense to invest the extra money into an older patient, who is not likely to be around 5+ years.

As far as rehab goes, I have seen cases where owners opted to not have surgery and the dog eventually developed scar tissue and stopped limping, but it usually takes 9+ months to get to that point, and I think it would be a very difficult 9+ months for a dog that is geriatric and arthritic. If he can't use 1 rear limb, he is putting extra weight on his other 3 and is probably going to endure a lot of pain. Good chance it results in him rupturing his other cranial cruciate ligament, and you would end up having to euthanize him.

Thank you, I appreciate that.
 
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13ish?

Heeler (mostly)

45 - 50 lbs now - heavier b/f but been on a pretty strict for weight control.

Thank you -- are you a vet?
Crazy-ish coincidence. We have a 12 year old (in July) Heeler (and Dalmatian) mix. Thankfully she hasn't shown any arthritic symptoms. She's the best and smartest dog I've ever owned. And she weighs about 47 lbs.
 
Crazy-ish coincidence. We have a 12 year old (in July) Heeler (and Dalmatian) mix. Thankfully she hasn't shown any arthritic symptoms. She's the best and smartest dog I've ever owned. And she weighs about 47 lbs.


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Both of our muts are showing signs of arthritis. They are 10.

A vet friend told me that weight control and omega 3s could be effective arthritis relief. I tried the omega supplements and both geriatric, arthritic dogs eventually got tired of them and refused them. (I don't have the patience to spend 20 minutes tricking a dog) I started using canned tuna in place of wet food and got serious about weight control and it made a big difference.
 
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Crazy-ish coincidence. We have a 12 year old (in July) Heeler (and Dalmatian) mix. Thankfully she hasn't shown any arthritic symptoms. She's the best and smartest dog I've ever owned. And she weighs about 47 lbs.

I love heelers. Yeah -- they're real smart. They can be pretty violent if not socialized early.
 
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