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I'm glad you figured out the control group. That would also imply that you understand the vaxinated group is experimental. Personally mandating anything we are still experimenting with is not very scientific.

Your definition of failing miserably is different than mine. Death rates are falling dramatically. Hospitals are no longer overcrowded. If the vaccine is working, then between the vaccinated and those who have had it herd immunity has or is being obtained. Therapeutics are developing well.

Both sides of this seem to be screaming at brick walls.

formerly experimental, now approved by FDA.
 
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mRNA shots were Tested 3 times:

2005 cats- some died upon shots...rest died when reintroduced to the virus. 100 percent kill rate

2012 Ferrets- same results

Control groups human test a year or two ago- Pfizer and moderna LOST ALL OF THEIR RESULTS- couldn't tell which ones that died were control groups or experimental group- yeah right


Rest of the testing going on now with humans - so far in LT a year (USA only) over 17k have died with million plus injuries -
Most all being censored and suppressed by a corrupt media.

Why not take the shots🤔
Good post. It was a pretty shitty thing for him to say, but I just blame it on the sauce.
Shitty but not untrue. There's just no "nice" way to put it.
 
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Woah there, billy bob.

I think you’ve been relatively objective or at least making attempts. This is just an attempt at cruelty

There’s been little consistency amongst the experts for months and months.

Prime example:
“Because of the lower risk, the World Health Organization argues that vaccinating children is not a high priority, given that global supplies are insufficient to immunize all adults.”

Does data change? Sure.

Has it been clearly articulated in a manner to bring people on board? No. I’d know. I’m really farking good at building a narrative that makes brands lots of money.

What I HAVE seen is a lot of snark and cruelty toward people that rightfully have questions, especially minorities. I believe they care just as much about their kids as I expect you do.

Honestly, I think I’m just over the whole thing and getting ranty because dialogue on COVID is damned near impossible. Hell. I won’t be surprised when it’s illegal.
The questions that those people have will never be answered to their satisfaction. Those people have had the truth for over six months and. Still refuse to believe it. I can't force people to accept the truth as truth. And I can't force them to reject bullsh!t. All I can do is put it in realistic terms and if they think it's "cruel" or "snarky" that's their opinion.

I have seen wave after wave of unvaccinated patients come to the hospital to die alone on a ventilator. Sound awful? It is.

And I have seen other surgeons go on ECMO or die from this fùcking virus, before vaccines were available. And I have seen dozens of patients get referred for organ donation - devestating brain injury from hypoxia due to COVID. And I've held lungs from COVID positive organ donors in my hands. They have the color, the shape, the size, and the consistency of a cantaloupe. A big, heavy, solid mass that is in no way capable of sustaining respiration - exchanging O2 for CO2.

We have an effective, reasonable tool for fighting it and yet 35% of the population refuse to see it as reasonable because "Fauci", "China", "Biden", "Freedom", "Grown in a lab", "No FDA approval", "Not 100% effective", "Myocarditis". It's just excuse after hackneyed excuse.

And the goalposts keep moving ... and the Gab links and the dumb excuses keep metastasizing... Not to mention the ridiculous and illogical misinformation campaign being touted here on these stupid boards by assorted conspiracy-theory-spreading miscreants daily.

But they've never seen anyone die from this virus. I have. They've never lost a patient from this virus. I've lost seven. And I would have lost Both of my parents if not for the vaccine.

As I said earlier, there are 3 outcomes for defeating this virus and two are extremely risky. The tools have been out there to defeat it for a very long time.

It's also worrisome to me as a physician that people refuse to take the advice of their physicians. They take their personal physician's advice when their blood pressure is high, their acne gets too bad, their kid gets in a car wreck, or when their d!ck doesn't work; but they refuse to take their physicians' advice on this deadly virus for which there are clear guidelines to safely prevent.

Worse, they choose to pick their advice from these discredited, narcissistic, and probably incredibly greedy FrontLine "physicians" who haven't seen a microscope or a patient since the Bush administration; and have never read a public health article. As a physician, trying to correct this type of misinformation is just fatiguing. Imagine if 35 % of the population thought YOU were lying.

So again, act however you want and believe whatever you want. But actions have consequences. My actions have led to immunity and safety for my family. What have your actions done?
 
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On a similar track, I want to read RFK Jr’s new book about the little Fraudchi before I get too many more jabs.
It’s trying to be censored if the hype is true
 
formerly experimental, now approved by FDA.
No sir you are wrong AGAIN. Never seen anyone as wrong as you. Listen carefully for the 10 th time you will learn something. Also you will learn just how corrupt they are:

FDA approved a Pfizer shot called Comirnaty....ok good deal (even tho Pfizer owns The FDA)..ok.ok.ok.....Comirnaty is NOT the one being given now- they did the "approval" to smoke screen everyone- look this up its a fact.

They won't approve this shot they're giving now bc if it is not emergency anymore- they will have to admit what's in the shot.

So look it up- FDA approved Comirnaty NOT the shot they are giving now. And no one (media) tells you fools this
 
No sir you are wrong AGAIN. Never seen anyone as wrong as you. Listen carefully for the 10 th time you will learn something. Also you will learn just how corrupt they are:

FDA approved a Pfizer shot called Comirnaty....ok good deal (even tho Pfizer owns The FDA)..ok.ok.ok.....Comirnaty is NOT the one being given now- they did the "approval" to smoke screen everyone- look this up its a fact.

They won't approve this shit they're fixing bc if it is not emergency anymore- they will have to admit what's in the shot.

So look it up- FDA approved Comirnaty NOT the shot they are fixing now. And no one (media) tells you fools this
Your posting history and reliability speaks for itself, friend. You should probably stop now.
 
The questions that those people have will never be answered to their satisfaction. Those people have had the truth for over six months and. Still refuse to believe it. I can't force people to accept the truth as truth. And I can't force them to reject bullsh!t. All I can do is put it in realistic terms and if they think it's "cruel" or "snarky" that's their opinion.

I have seen wave after wave of unvaccinated patients come to the hospital to die alone on a ventilator. Sound awful? It is.

And I have seen other surgeons go on ECMO or die from this fùcking virus, before vaccines were available. And I have seen dozens of patients get referred for organ donation - devestating brain injury from hypoxia due to COVID. And I've held lungs from COVID positive organ donors in my hands. They have the color, the shape, the size, and the consistency of a cantaloupe. A big, heavy, solid mass that is in no way capable of sustaining respiration - exchanging O2 for CO2.

We have an effective, reasonable tool for fighting it and yet 35% of the population refuse to see it as reasonable because "Fauci", "China", "Biden", "Freedom", "Grown in a lab", "No FDA approval", "Not 100% effective", "Myocarditis". Etc etc etc. ... and the goalposts keep moving and the Gab links and the dumb excuses keep metastasizing. Not to mention the ridiculous and illogical misinformation campaign being touted here on these stupid boards by assorted conspiracy-theory-spreading miscreants daily.

But they've never seen anyone die from this virus. I have. They've never lost a patient from this virus. I've lost seven. And I would have lost Both of my parents if not for the vaccine.

As I said earlier, there are 3 outcomes for defeating this virus and two are extremely risky. The tools have been out there to defeat it for a very long time.

It's also worrisome to me as a physician that people refuse to take the advice of their physicians. They take their personal physician's advice when their blood pressure is high, their acne gets too bad, their kid gets in a car wreck, or when their d!ck doesn't work, but they refuse to take their physicians' advice on this deadly virus for which there are clear guidelines to safely prevent.

So again, act however you want and believe whatever you want. But actions have consequences. My actions have led to immunity and safety for my family. What have your actions done?
Doctors prescribing Remdesivir with instructions from a Corrupt unelected CDC causes the vents/ remak failure - no one dies at home- only in the hospitals. 99.9 percent survival - take ivermectin/Zn/ vitamin D prophylaxis the survival is 99.99999999999999999993 survival 🤔

Don't go to the hospital for COVID and let the. Out you on Remdesivir- do your HW on that one.

And 65 percent aren't dumb enough to take these experiential shots- they are lying about this also.

And you're no doctor- you're 15-20 year old keyboard warrior HS in college doctor wannabe somebody..... Keep faking it. No doctor could be as disconnected as you are.
 
On a similar track, I want to read RFK Jr’s new book about the little Fraudchi before I get too many more jabs.
It’s trying to be censored if the hype is true
You best have a strong stomach- what he's done to kids, Dogs and Primates is sickening.
 
formerly experimental, now approved by FDA.
We will look at that differently. I see it as the FDA approved the experiment not the vaccine.

The vaccine would never be approved this quick in a normal setting, but we aren't in normal are we? I agree to let patients get the vaccine, not to mandate it as I see it as still in the experimental stages. Course, I have trust issues when it comes to the governemnt. So far the government hasn’t shown me it knows the best way to change a light bulb. I'm not going to suddenly say oh yea, this time I'll trust you because its different. I'll leave that tactic to the left.
 
Now they are spinning it but the shot they have been giving is still Emergency use only. Not saying Comirnaty won't kill you also but it's not being given in the US at this time. And again - FDA approval means jack dolly when ofizer OWNS the FDA. Can't trust the 3 letter Washington DC entities
 
We will look at that differently. I see it as the FDA approved the experiment not the vaccine.

The vaccine would never be approved this quick in a normal setting, but we aren't in normal are we? I agree to let patients get the vaccine, not to mandate it as I see it as still in the experimental stages. Course, I have trust issues when it comes to the governemnt. So far the government hasn’t shown me it knows the best way to change a light bulb. I'm not going to suddenly say oh yea, this time I'll trust you because its different. I'll leave that tactic to the left.

Goalposts and whatnot.
 
The questions that those people have will never be answered to their satisfaction. Those people have had the truth for over six months and. Still refuse to believe it. I can't force people to accept the truth as truth. And I can't force them to reject bullsh!t. All I can do is put it in realistic terms and if they think it's "cruel" or "snarky" that's their opinion.

I have seen wave after wave of unvaccinated patients come to the hospital to die alone on a ventilator. Sound awful? It is.

And I have seen other surgeons go on ECMO or die from this fùcking virus, before vaccines were available. And I have seen dozens of patients get referred for organ donation - devestating brain injury from hypoxia due to COVID. And I've held lungs from COVID positive organ donors in my hands. They have the color, the shape, the size, and the consistency of a cantaloupe. A big, heavy, solid mass that is in no way capable of sustaining respiration - exchanging O2 for CO2.

We have an effective, reasonable tool for fighting it and yet 35% of the population refuse to see it as reasonable because "Fauci", "China", "Biden", "Freedom", "Grown in a lab", "No FDA approval", "Not 100% effective", "Myocarditis". It's just excuse after hackneyed excuse.

And the goalposts keep moving ... and the Gab links and the dumb excuses keep metastasizing... Not to mention the ridiculous and illogical misinformation campaign being touted here on these stupid boards by assorted conspiracy-theory-spreading miscreants daily.

But they've never seen anyone die from this virus. I have. They've never lost a patient from this virus. I've lost seven. And I would have lost Both of my parents if not for the vaccine.

As I said earlier, there are 3 outcomes for defeating this virus and two are extremely risky. The tools have been out there to defeat it for a very long time.

It's also worrisome to me as a physician that people refuse to take the advice of their physicians. They take their personal physician's advice when their blood pressure is high, their acne gets too bad, their kid gets in a car wreck, or when their d!ck doesn't work; but they refuse to take their physicians' advice on this deadly virus for which there are clear guidelines to safely prevent.

Worse, they choose to pick their advice from these discredited, narcissistic, and probably incredibly greedy FrontLine "physicians" who haven't seen a microscope or a patient since the Bush administration; and have never read a public health article. As a physician, trying to correct this type of misinformation is just fatiguing. Imagine if 35 % of the population thought YOU were lying.

So again, act however you want and believe whatever you want. But actions have consequences. My actions have led to immunity and safety for my family. What have your actions done?
Does a child having the “vaccine” stop them from spreading the virus?
 
Poktologist…….think in my case you’d bring making a mistake to not think I read and think about what you say.

My question is with natural immunity from having caught and survived the kingflu why are vaccines necessary? I’ve read nothing that says I’m a potential vector and have read articles that say natural immunity is lasting longer then originally thought it would.
Assuming that’s true, then the vaccines being “new” there is no definitive study as to side effects over the long run (think chantix) versus my natural immunity which continues to hold very strong 13 months after infection. Seems conventiona

As others I don’t trust much government does, especially as currently constituted. Most everyone screaming for mandates now publicly stated they didn’t trust the vaccine 18 months or so ago. This should never been in the hands of that rat bastard Fauci but more do in a panel of people who would have done the right thing regardless of media and who’re politician backlash.

Because I’ll have to start traveling internationally again next year am sure will have to get the vaccines, so be it. But with natural immunity and getting tested fairly regularly what is mine and others risks going forward?
 
Good thought, but the duration of infectivity will be shorter because the child will clear the virus sooner. You've just made your own argument. Thanks for helping to end this awful disease.

did fauci cite a study on this in a zoom call?
 
Good thought, but the duration of infectivity will be shorter because the child will clear the virus sooner. You've just made your own argument. Thanks for helping to end this awful disease.
As the thread goes on:

Doctor

Docter

Donter

Dancer


It’s well documented that the vaccinated (of any age) can still pass it on or have breakthroughs. Why die on this hill?
 
As the thread goes on:

Doctor

Docter

Donter

Dancer


It’s well documented that the vaccinated (of any age) can still pass it on or have breakthroughs. Why die on this hill?

Because vaccinations have saved more lives in the history of mankind than any other public health initiative. And don't trust my word for it. Here's a pre-COVID article that says exactly that


But yeah, keep on moving those goalposts.
 
Because vaccinations have saved more lives in the history of mankind than any other public health initiative. And don't trust my word for it. Here's a pre-COVID article that says exactly that


But yeah, keep on moving those goalposts.
I didn’t move any target.

You (a professional in the field) were asked a direct question, and you didn’t answer directly.

And, this response is only another failed attempt to deflect from the original question. If anyone moved the target in this instance, it was you.

I get that you are frustrated by the Corns of the world, but we are all reading from the same book on this subject.

The medical community isn’t convinced vaccinated people, including children, can’t continue to spread the disease.

You can’t simply leverage the medical community when it’s convenient.
 
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I didn’t move any target.

You (a professional in the field) were asked a direct question, and you didn’t answer directly.

And, this response is only another failed attempt to deflect from the original question.

I get that you are frustrated by the Corns of the world, but we are all reading from the same book on this subject.

The medical community isn’t convinced vaccinated people, including children, can’t continue to spread the disease.

You can’t simply leverage the medical community when it’s convenient.
Sorry I couldn't answer to your satisfaction. But not surprising. It's a common theme amongst antivaxxers.

And now I'll go back to my prior statement - I'll only answer non-trap questions that I think can add constructively to our fund of knowledge. No sense in fighting. I'll do my thing and believe what I want , you do the same. Have a happy thanksgiving.
 
I didn’t move any target.

You (a professional in the field) were asked a direct question, and you didn’t answer directly.

And, this response is only another failed attempt to deflect from the original question. If anyone moved the target in this instance, it was you.

I get that you are frustrated by the Corns of the world, but we are all reading from the same book on this subject.

The medical community isn’t convinced vaccinated people, including children, can’t continue to spread the disease.

You can’t simply leverage the medical community when it’s convenient.
If he’s really in the medical field then God help us.
 
Sorry I couldn't answer to your satisfaction. But not surprising. It's a common theme amongst antivaxxers.

And now I'll go back to my prior statement - I'll only answer non-trap questions that I think can add constructively to our fund of knowledge. No sense in fighting. I'll do my thing and believe what I want , you do the same. Have a happy thanksgiving.
There was only one trap set: when you made a cruel claim you can’t defend.

That is all. Get stuffed. 🦃
 
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Sorry I couldn't answer to your satisfaction. But not surprising. It's a common theme amongst antivaxxers.

And now I'll go back to my prior statement - I'll only answer non-trap questions that I think can add constructively to our fund of knowledge. No sense in fighting. I'll do my thing and believe what I want , you do the same. Have a happy thanksgiving.
You’re largely speaking to people who are not anti vaccine and you’re completely showing your ass as well proving that actual medical professionals are willing to follow a false narrative.
 
I didn’t move any target.

You (a professional in the field) were asked a direct question, and you didn’t answer directly.

And, this response is only another failed attempt to deflect from the original question. If anyone moved the target in this instance, it was you.

I get that you are frustrated by the Corns of the world, but we are all reading from the same book on this subject.

The medical community isn’t convinced vaccinated people, including children, can’t continue to spread the disease.

You can’t simply leverage the medical community when it’s convenient.
The dude is not a doctor- he's a basement mamas boy failure to
Launch liar of the internet- you guys please quit calling him a professional- unless you attach propagandist or "basement keyboard warrior"
 
I believe he’s a doctor.

I believe you are projecting and would benefit from getting off gab and out of your basement.
He's totally not a doctor. What's worse twitter or Gab? I have not seen you tell anyone to get off of Twitter- but really haven't been paying attention. Are those sites The same or which one is worse since you are holier Than thou?
Can you really not come back with anything other than slam Gab? That's really all you have?

Also what makes you think he's a doctor- bc he said? Bc he pulls stuff off the internet to post? Anyone like him that could
Be in charge of someones health is beyond comprehension

Save us the projecting psycho babble BS Tho plz
 
He's totally not a doctor. What's worse twitter or Gab? I have not seen you tell anyone to get off of Twitter- but really haven't been paying attention. Are those sites The same or which one is worse since you are holier Than thou?
Can you really not come back with anything other than slam Gab? That's really all you have?

Also what makes you think he's a doctor- bc he said? Bc he pulls stuff off the internet to post? Anyone like him that could
Be in charge of someones health is beyond comprehension

Save us the projecting psycho babble BS Tho plz
I don’t find either to be the most reliable source for news.

And, you’re right. Picking on gab when you provide so much more material every. single. day. was lazy.
 
I don’t find either to be the most reliable source for news.

And, you’re right. Picking on gab when you provide so much more material every. single. day. was lazy.
Info on GAb is bad? Where does yours come from- Fox and CNN? Lotsa doctors and journalists whose reports are shared on GAb- but you won't see on TV, the main atream
Media or most social media (wonder why)
Gab as a source along with others is way better than the TV- but you're shallow minded so you only believe what your tv tells you? Facebook? Radio? Clinical studies done by you?
Enlighten us
 
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