U.S. Navy sailors humiliated by Iran
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didn't watch the scortum's SOTU last night, did he say anything about this? Dam Jimmy Carter must be jumping for joy, meanwhile messengill must be dreaming up a new nozzle name for that worthless piece of beetle dung.
Pathetically weak figurehead......
Pathetically weak figurehead......
No, he did not. Unless you count bragging about what a great agreement he and Kerry negotiated.
I guess you didn't catch that the original story with the photos went out over Reuters? Did anyone state the belief that the sailors WOULDN'T be released? But, I guess you think it's "OK" for our military members to be treated in such a way by a nation that we're supposedly bringing into the fold of the world community of nations.
You don't think its humiliating when they did absolutely nothing wrong? The 1 female sailor was made to wear a burka in some pictures. The pictures are a violation of the Geneva Convention (at the very least some are); strange behavior from a nation that has allegedly been reined in by Kerry/Obama.
If you can't see that Iran is flipping the bird to our President and our nation because they know Obama is so DESPERATE to make any deal, they can basically do anything they want short of out right provocation of war, then you're even crazier than I thought.
Total chicken hawk meltdown. Of all the scenarios that could have transpired, all the things that could've happened.... the chicken hawks are livid because the chick wore a veil. Apparently they want us to be able to literally go wherever we want and nobody stop it. If this would've happened during the Bush administration they would've killed every one of those soldiers.
Obama doesn't owe one apology or iota of self doubt regarding his foreign policy. He's been an extraordinary foreign policy POTUS.
Obama doesn't owe one apology or iota of self doubt regarding his foreign policy. He's been an extraordinary foreign policy POTUS.
Uh huh. The cheerleaders are out in force today. Reality, who needs stinking reality? Barry has Iran right where he wants them, their collective hand up his ass controlling his every action.Total chicken hawk meltdown. Of all the scenarios that could have transpired, all the things that could've happened.... the chicken hawks are livid because the chick wore a veil. Apparently they want us to be able to literally go wherever we want and nobody stop it. If this would've happened during the Bush administration they would've killed every one of those soldiers.
Obama doesn't owe one apology or iota of self doubt regarding his foreign policy. He's been an extraordinary foreign policy POTUS.
NUKE DEAL!!!!
Oh how the Republicon right was praying for a 10-month long standoff leading up to November.
Instead, under this Commander in Chief, it lasted less than one day. Everybody was served a meal then walked out alive.
Great day for our troops' freedom but a devastating political blow to the Trump, the Canuck US Senator from Texas, Rubio and their fellow crack pots of the right.
Instead, under this Commander in Chief, it lasted less than one day. Everybody was served a meal then walked out alive.
Great day for our troops' freedom but a devastating political blow to the Trump, the Canuck US Senator from Texas, Rubio and their fellow crack pots of the right.
Something is really screwed up. Talked to a Navy guy he said with 2 boats and one operational he doesn't understand how they were taken. You scuttle or tow the other boat and protocol is that under no circumstances would a sailor give a statement in front of a camera unless they were ordered.
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The Pussy in Chief has reached a new level of embarrassingly spineless. No response to Iran's missile tests, no response to Iran firing rockets near our ships, and now this is what the administration apparently said to Iran regarding detaining our sailors:
"According to the official, Kerry told the foreign minister, “If we were able to do this, we will make this into a good story.”
What the furk?
"According to the official, Kerry told the foreign minister, “If we were able to do this, we will make this into a good story.”
What the furk?
Total chicken hawk meltdown. Of all the scenarios that could have transpired, all the things that could've happened.... the chicken hawks are livid because the chick wore a veil. Apparently they want us to be able to literally go wherever we want and nobody stop it. If this would've happened during the Bush administration they would've killed every one of those soldiers.
Obama doesn't owe one apology or iota of self doubt regarding his foreign policy. He's been an extraordinary foreign policy POTUS.
The chick? Sexist.
Predictable and pathetic that you two fools have no problem with handing Iran this kind of propaganda. Astonishing that you think this is praiseworthy.
Not to me. The Pussy in Chief wants the ignorant masses to believe that he has tamed the Iranian beast and that they are now faithful subservient allies of America. Given the quality of the typical liberal mind these days, I'm not surprised his sycophants are yipping like chihuahuas.
Pussy Obama can't even be honest about ISIS. As CCup has proudly stated before, it's all about the optics.
Optics be damned; every country in the world knows we have a spread-legged c*nt-in-chief. Game, set, match!
Let's see.... goose stepping Obama fan boy brown shirts or a SEAL... I think I'm going with the story below.
Matt Bracken's thoughts: "I rarely pull out my dusty old trident, but in this case, here goes. I was a Navy SEAL officer in the 1980s, and this kind of operation (transiting small boats in foreign waters) was our bread and butter. Today, these boats both not only had radar, but multiple GPS devices, including chart plotters that place your boat's icon right on the chart. The claim by Iran that the USN boats "strayed into Iranian waters" is complete bull$#it.
For an open-water transit between nations, the course is studied and planned in advance by the leaders of the Riverine Squadron, with specific attention given to staying wide and clear of any hostile nation's claimed territorial waters. The boats are given a complete mechanical check before departure, and they have sufficient fuel to accomplish their mission plus extra. If, for some unexplainable and rare circumstance one boat broke down, the other would tow it, that's why two boats go on these trips and not one! It's called "self-rescue" and it's SOP.
This entire situation is in my area of expertise. I can state with complete confidence that both Iran and our own State Department are lying. The boats did not enter Iranian waters. They were overtaken in international waters by Iranian patrol boats that were so superior in both speed and firepower that it became a "hands up!" situation, with automatic cannons in the 40mm to 76mm range pointed at them point-blank. Surrender, hands up, or be blown out of the water. I assume that the Iranians had an English speaker on a loudspeaker to make the demand. This takedown was no accident or coincidence, it was a planned slap across America's face.
Just watch. The released sailors will be ordered not to say a word about the incident, and the Iranians will have taken every GPS device, chart-plotter etc off the boats, so that we will not be able to prove where our boats were taken.
The "strayed into Iranian waters" story being put out by Iran and our groveling and appeasing State Dept. is utter and complete BS from one end to the other." - Matt Bracken (google him)
Matt Bracken's thoughts: "I rarely pull out my dusty old trident, but in this case, here goes. I was a Navy SEAL officer in the 1980s, and this kind of operation (transiting small boats in foreign waters) was our bread and butter. Today, these boats both not only had radar, but multiple GPS devices, including chart plotters that place your boat's icon right on the chart. The claim by Iran that the USN boats "strayed into Iranian waters" is complete bull$#it.
For an open-water transit between nations, the course is studied and planned in advance by the leaders of the Riverine Squadron, with specific attention given to staying wide and clear of any hostile nation's claimed territorial waters. The boats are given a complete mechanical check before departure, and they have sufficient fuel to accomplish their mission plus extra. If, for some unexplainable and rare circumstance one boat broke down, the other would tow it, that's why two boats go on these trips and not one! It's called "self-rescue" and it's SOP.
This entire situation is in my area of expertise. I can state with complete confidence that both Iran and our own State Department are lying. The boats did not enter Iranian waters. They were overtaken in international waters by Iranian patrol boats that were so superior in both speed and firepower that it became a "hands up!" situation, with automatic cannons in the 40mm to 76mm range pointed at them point-blank. Surrender, hands up, or be blown out of the water. I assume that the Iranians had an English speaker on a loudspeaker to make the demand. This takedown was no accident or coincidence, it was a planned slap across America's face.
Just watch. The released sailors will be ordered not to say a word about the incident, and the Iranians will have taken every GPS device, chart-plotter etc off the boats, so that we will not be able to prove where our boats were taken.
The "strayed into Iranian waters" story being put out by Iran and our groveling and appeasing State Dept. is utter and complete BS from one end to the other." - Matt Bracken (google him)
there is no way these 2 boats didn't know where they were...impossible. It's a lucky joke but these iranians were't going to do anything and chance not getting that big payday from the agreement. We're just being fed a bunch of lies over and over.
This bears repeating after Ketchup Corpse Kerry's line of bullshit. "We will make this into a good story." This whole thing sure is fishy on the Barry administration side. Benghazi 2.0?
The Iranians have done the EXACT same thing on multiple occasions in the past 10-15 years to similar British boats (maybe to some other nations too?), down to posing the pictures and making a woman sailor don the Muslim scarf. They've just never had the gumption to do it to an American vessel before.
I have a son in the Navy and Kerry can scream from the mountain tops how diplomatic Iran was to prop up the deal he and his fellow traitors made. You, OTH are still a POS anti American liberal bootlicker. Those pictures were a disgrace to those who serve and died so you can spew your stupid shit all over without consequences.Total chicken hawk meltdown. Of all the scenarios that could have transpired, all the things that could've happened.... the chicken hawks are livid because the chick wore a veil. Apparently they want us to be able to literally go wherever we want and nobody stop it. If this would've happened during the Bush administration they would've killed every one of those soldiers.
Obama doesn't owe one apology or iota of self doubt regarding his foreign policy. He's been an extraordinary foreign policy POTUS.
Exactly, just another dog and pony show by this "over their heads" administration to make people like sys and cup make themselves get the warm and fuzzies.
This is pathological lying, not a dog and pony show; Mega's post nailed it. The ridiculous horse-shit shoveled by the administration would be comical, but the world's on fire and President Vallerie fiddles.
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