It's unknown whether Jared participates, but they could also be discussing more back channels!
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...ReCY4N6uJ3OSnzv7rAax6Cu20&bt_ts=1496419216018
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...ReCY4N6uJ3OSnzv7rAax6Cu20&bt_ts=1496419216018