Turkey, on the Edge
- Thread starter Marshal Jim Duncan
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A military coup is underway, it seems:
http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/07/turkey-government/491579/
http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/07/turkey-government/491579/
The current leader is an ego maniac and makes BHO look like a humble person.
Turkey used to have a fairly secular government hopefully they will bring that back because Turkey is rapidly becoming sharia complaint government.
Turkey used to have a fairly secular government hopefully they will bring that back because Turkey is rapidly becoming sharia complaint government.
Probably long overdue.... www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-13746679 it's an older article but he has tried to stifle the press, neutered the military to a degree enriched his buddies. Remember we are talking about Erdogan, although it could be the rodent-in-chief.
Can't imagine the despot in Venezuela has much more time either. Be interesting to see if either make it out alive.
Can't imagine the despot in Venezuela has much more time either. Be interesting to see if either make it out alive.
I agree on Erdogan. However, recent actions have seemed to be more conciliatory to the west. I wonder if this a reaction to that.
I have a hard time believing the military is not west friendly considering we have armed them to the teeth and trained a good number of them.
This is more about getting rid of a nut job.
My cousin was career Air Force and he and his family were stationed in Turkey for several years a couple of decades ago and they really enjoyed it.
It might not be popular to say and I'm not even sure how I feel about the morality of it, but I kinda feel okay with dictatorships in that area of the world....as long as they are OUR dictators.
Even enemy dictators were easier to keep under our thumbs. Coincidentally, they also had more control over the radical Islamic thugs.
Contrary to the erroneous thinking of the Neocons giving W advice, Democracy can't work in Islamic countries.
And contrary to Obama and Shitlary's beliefs Libya and Syria could become democracies. You'd think those brilliant dumbasses would have learned from their fellow dumbass Bush.
The authoritarian system doesn't guarantee peace or stability either, it's just better odds.
??????? This does not jive with our other conversation, not saying you are wrong but please tell me why? Muslims can't handle freedom?
There hasn't been much stability there ever. Too many factions. Agree about authoritarian government. People still get crapped on ruthlessly. Keeping stability most often involves unfettered violence against anyone appearing to be against the authority. The majority tends to not want to be slaughtered so they stay in line.
Logically the question of our government is what best protects our intetests. Unfortunately our government has a history of being completely wrong.
Looks like the last 10 years says they can't.
I agree. I'm a believe in getting the best odds you can though.....at least when it comes to foreign policy.
I have spent a long time in SE Turkey, mainly at Incirlik AB near Adana. I was absolutely stunned and upset last night hearing what seemed to be unfolding, and I am just very happy it appears to be over. The people there are fantastic ( as is the food), I felt like I had been gut punched last night. I have not been there in several years, but I keep thinking about all the great people I know and just hope they are ok.
Is this ISIS fallout or a separate deal? I always thought Turkey was beyond coups, opposition in exile, etc. Now the guy that hung on is going all Borat and declaring vengeance.
Why did you think turkey was beyond coups? Did they not introduce you guys to history at the school for the deaf and dumb you and up flunked out of?
