Trump signs two executive orders on border security and immigration
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I read his website on how he was going to make Mexico pay for the wall....even quoted it here.
It indicated that efforts to convince Mexico to pay for the wall voluntarily and action to force them to pay if they didn't agree would be before....you know....building it.
It indicated that efforts to convince Mexico to pay for the wall voluntarily and action to force them to pay if they didn't agree would be before....you know....building it.
And while the media and the other lefties are all distracted by how is he going to get Mexico to pay for the wall they aren't fighting the actual building of the wall now.
How do you propose they would effectively fight the signing of an Executive Order?
Because nothing in that EO actually authorized building the wall. The POTUS has NO authority under the Constitution to spend one thin dime without the express pre-approval of Congress. This, under the "Taxing and Spending" of the US Constitution: Article I, Section 8, Clause 1.
Until he convinces Congress (and they agree) to provide the funding for building the wall, it's not reality. It's merely him expressing his opinion and putting the legal framework for doing something "IF" he gets authority.
This is virtually the same legal impact of his "reversal" of Obamacare, which if you actually go and read is nothing more than a "mission statement" expressing his intent to work towards reversing it. Here's the 1st Paragraph of that EO btw: " Section 1. It is the policy of my Administration to seek the prompt repeal of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Public Law 111-148), as amended (the "Act"). In the meantime, pending such repeal, it is imperative for the executive branch to ensure that the law is being efficiently implemented, take all actions consistent with law to minimize the unwarranted economic and regulatory burdens of the Act, and prepare to afford the States more flexibility and control to create a more free and open healthcare market."
That EO in no way reverses the ACA, despite what many seem to believe. Until Congress acts to amend or otherwise repeal the ACA it continues as the law of the land.
Dressing up like a giant vagina and take the streets seems to be their favored method of fighting.
But if you're looking for a serious answer then maybe they should consider running better candidates for office.
It's a reflection of the last eight years' twilight zone alt-reality that tax-payer-funded government workers actually following the law / looking out for American citizens first is news.
Nice dodge....but really, what could lefties do that they aren't because they're distracted the whole couple of hours since the signing of the EO talking about who is going to pay for it instead of actually fighting it actually being built.
That is still ahead....I don't think it's likely to be successful, but it's still to come.
Re Mexico paying and Trump's upcoming meeting with Mexican leader:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...-in-u.s.-send-home-every-year/article/2612949
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...-in-u.s.-send-home-every-year/article/2612949
There is already a law (Secure Fence Act of 2006) which gives authority to build a wall. There were even funds appropriated and spent to pay for it. Don't think Trump needs to go back to Congress for the authority. Passed the Senate like 80-16 +/- with Obama, Clinton, Biden and Schumer all voting for the Act.
Imprimis, yes that bill was passed, but the ONLY funding authorized by Congress was about $1.2 Billion and that has long been spent as the funds were already depleted by 2008. Thus the reason why Duncan Hunter (R-CA) introduced the "Reinstatement of the Secure Fence Act" in 2008 to authorize more funding to continue building. (It died in committee.) The house and senate have been controlled by Republicans for the last 6 yrs and they haven't authorized a single dime to continue the program.
As I said above: "Until he convinces Congress (and they agree) to provide the funding for building the wall, it's not reality."
Paul Ryan appears to be moving forward with wall spending:
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/316201-gop-eyes-special-spending-bill-to-pay-for-border-wall
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/316201-gop-eyes-special-spending-bill-to-pay-for-border-wall
The $221 million gift to a group of terrorists would make a nice starting sum. Spend it on terrorists or protecting our own borders? Easy choice.
The reimbursement angle has been out there for a loooooooooong time.
You keep saying that, but I quoted his website a couple of weeks ago...and not a peep there.
It may have changed since the.
So deploy the military on the border to defend against the invasion and then they have the ability to build a wall around their military presence. The federal government has an obligation to defend the states against invasion and there is already money allocated to the military.
Easy solution.
Easy solution.
The EO that was signed today on the wall also said that the total aid we give to mexico needs to be identified. That is Trump's negotiating leverage, he can pay for the wall out the aid money already targeted for Mexico, simple solution.
No idea what his website says, but I've heard him say it for quite awhile. I know a lot of people claimed he would never build it if elected, but I always assumed he would and he would get it out of Mexico via reimbursement rather than invoicing Mexico City. I think it made better theater to let that be the narrative but it never seemed realistic. If it works out that way, does it really matter? I know... cheerleader. But that's what I've always assumed would happen.
"Don't rush the monkey and you'll see a better show." Boone Pickens
The guy has been in office all of 5 days. Let this play out.
The guy has been in office all of 5 days. Let this play out.
I think it was during Gundy's first few years in office. er... as Head Coach.
You heard him explicitly say that it would be built and then we would get reimbursed or is this more of that we knew what he meant wasn't exactly what he was saying, "Oh Donny, you loveable scamp" stuff?
