Trump fires James Comey
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While I fully expect the next several weeks to be highly entertaining, Id like to propose a replacement:
Trey
Good or no?
Trey
Good or no?
I would like to see Gowdy in that role but get the feeling he doesn't want it for whatever reason. After the positions Comey was put in, I can see why. Have to have a strong backbone.
My first thought - This is potentially chilling news for Rice, Clinton etc.
Everybody who is partisan:
"WHAT ARE MY TALKING POINTS?!?!"
"WHAT ARE MY TALKING POINTS?!?!"
And advocates of independent investigations everywhere.
“If the election were on October 27, I’d be your president" -Hitlery Clinton
A very strange political move by Trump. This will completely bring back to the forefront the media's sole focus on the Russia scandal. Gives new life to calls for a special prosecutor as well.
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This isn't chilling news for Clinton. Clinton very well could just be the excuse Trump used to give himself political cover with his supporters.
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Tonight is the night to grab a bag of popcorn and watch the heads explode on MSNBC and CNN. It just won't get any better than that.
That is what it looks like.
This was a bonehead political move by Trump in terms of the Russia scandal.
Comey supplanted the role of the Justice Department when he played prosecutor and offered his prosecutorial opinion on the Clinton emails, the FBI's role is to investigate and provide evidence, not to fulfill both roles. This is why he was fired, evidence should have been turned over back in July and the DOJ should have determined if the evidence supported prosecution.
If this was why he was fired, why did Trump wait till the middle of May to act? He could have fired Comey for this before now.
Not saying this wasn't the reason or one of the reasons, but this sounds more like fodder for his base and political cover. Just really isn't credible given the timing.
Pissing off both sides of the political aisle with your investigations is a pretty strong sign that you are impartial, non-partisan, and independent.
It's also not real good for keeping a job at the FBI.
I've never looked at Trump as being political and making political moves. I really don't think he gives a damn about politics.
Well, in his defense, there was no way Lynch was going to make any announcement after being busted in a secret meeting with the target of the investigations husband. Everyone thought Clinton was a shoe in and Lynch could wipe the slate while sucking ass for a bigger job.
IMO Comey was pushed out on the plank and was shot in the back of his head before his first step toward the end of it. I think his hands were more than tied and the result of that was the letter about emails on Pedophile's laptop knowing he likely wouldn't be retained by Hillary anyhow.
Just shooting from the hip.
Trump is actually rather good at making political moves IMO. I think that was on display during the 2016 campaign and something his Republican rivals and the Clinton campaign greatly underestimated.
The question is why exactly was he fired? He just admitted yesterday that there was an error in his letter about the Weiner laptop emails. Fireable offense or a scapegoat?
True, but Comey has made some mistakes. Mistakes that rise to the level of being fired? Depends on who you talk to I guess.
I get your point, but I don't think Trump sees his moves as being political. It was his boldness and outsider status that won people over during the campaign. These characteristics proved refreshing to a nation beaten over the head with political correctness and timidity.
Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein recently appointed (clean politically in all of this or at least new with no history), reviews Hillary's file, and tells the President Comey acted inappropriately based on the evidence and his role in the FBI. Trump, thinking no one will ever prove Russia ties, fires Comey to open up the possibility to now prosecute Hillary.
Get out the popcorn because it is going to get ugly IMO or fun, whatever your perspective. So, does Trump ties to Russia get proven or does Hillary get prosecuted and serves time just like the guy on the Navy sub serving time?
Political mud slinging has been bad, if Trump either feels or thinks he is invincible and he has his DOJ people telling him Hillary broke the law, maybe he feels empowered to complete another campaign promise and go after Hillary.
You can not make this stuff up. Right or not, Comey never should have played the role of prosecutor in the Clinton emails, if you think that is ok not sure what to say. People who know the law like the DOJ, should be deciding if evidence warrants charges.
Maybe Washington implodes on itself and I get my wish for ALL of them to be replaced by a boat load of moderates.
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I disagree. The man is President and ran for President. He used his outsider status for political purposes . . . that was part of his political strategy. His boldness was also part of that strategy.
2016 wasn't the first time Trump ran for President. His eye has been on the White House for a while now. He had the right political strategy in 2016 and that is why he is sitting in the White House right now.
I understand where you're coming from saying he had to be political to become president, but agree with guns in that people wanted a change in the political landscape. That being said, I don't think Trump cares about being political seeing where all that got us.
This is funny. He only pissed off 1 guy. Bu bye. He was living on borrowed time.
Honestly that had been my take on him as well. But those things could also mean he's just shitty at his job.
Trump and his aides have already said though that they aren't going to try to prosecute Clinton (which would essentially be impossible now anyways). So the theory that Trump did this to open the possibility of prosecuting Clinton doesn't add up.
Now, if this was political revenge directed at Comey for his handling of the Clinton matter, that would add up in terms of motive. However, the timing still doesn't make sense. Trump could have fired Comey before now.
Doing it now, a day after Sally Yates' testimony just reignites calls for a special prosecutor for the Russia scandal and places the media's focus squarely back on the Russia scandal.
Maybe Trump does believe no one will ever prove Russia ties. However, why make a political move that just makes the calls for a special prosecutor even louder (and gives those calls apparent justification)?
Yes, some people wanted a change. However, Trump recognized that early on. That is why he ran and that is why he pursued the political strategy we saw. Trump read the political landscape and came up with a strategy that put him in the White House.
The man is President. His job is political. Of course he cares about being political.
I don't understand what you mean when you say Comey played the role of prosecutor. How did he do that? Isn't one of the tasks if the FBI to recommend prosecution or not? Isn't that what Comey did as director? I don't think he believed he had authority to prosecute, only to recommend. It was up to the AG to decide whether or not to prosecute. Am I wrong?
It could.....but I'm really pretty familiar with his performance and actions as FBI Director and don't consider him shitty at his job.
I also don't believe the claimed basis for the decision proffered by Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein for the firing for a second.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...doj-rips-handling-clinton-case-in-ouster.html
Comey's statements before Congress were all known and subject to evaluation at the time Trump announced he was keeping Comey on and Priebus said "“Yes, he has confidence in Director Comey,” Priebus said. “We have had a great relationship with him over the last several weeks. He’s extremely competent. But, look, his term extends for some time yet. There’s no plans at the moment in changing that term. And we’ve enjoyed our relationship with him and find him to be extraordinarily competent."
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