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TRUMP APPROVAL GOES UP After Media Mush Pile on General Flynn

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Doubling down on stupid via the Obama shadow government. The gift that keeps on giving.

"President Trump’s approval rating went up on Wednesday despite the continued onslaught of criticism by the liberal American media.

"This comes one day after General Flynn resigned as National Security Adviser to the president.

"Americans may be viewing the president as a sympathetic character as the media continues to steamroll him in their daily reports."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/trump-approval-goes-media-mush-pile-general-flynn/
 
Doubling down on stupid via the Obama shadow government. The gift that keeps on giving.

"President Trump’s approval rating went up on Wednesday despite the continued onslaught of criticism by the liberal American media.

"This comes one day after General Flynn resigned as National Security Adviser to the president.

"Americans may be viewing the president as a sympathetic character as the media continues to steamroll him in their daily reports."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/trump-approval-goes-media-mush-pile-general-flynn/
That is the exact same approval rating Rasmussen has reported since he has become president.
 
It astounds me that people don't feel like mark ass bitches for believing this stuff.

You just described the introspection that 100% of people who voted for Hillary should be exercising.

Obviously, that largely doesn't seem to be the case.
 
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"Americans may be viewing the president as a sympathetic character as the media continues to steamroll him in their daily reports."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/trump-approval-goes-media-mush-pile-general-flynn/

I don't know about the rest of the country but I know a LOT of relatively reluctant Trump voters who feel this way. Myself included. And frankly it is irritating because I would naturally take a more skeptical track on him but most of the dog piling is so fugging stupid, endless, hysterical and frankly (a lot of it) irresponsible, that I don't feel like I've got room to do that. If this guy had any traditional "honeymoon" period, I would've posted a report card just like JD's and focused on the things that legitimately give me pause. But today for example, Michael Moore is calling for Trump's arrest. Sweet Baby Jesus.

Russia again?

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I don't know about the rest of the country but I know a LOT of relatively reluctant Trump voters who feel this way. Myself included. And frankly it is irritating because I would naturally take a more skeptical track on him but most of the dog piling is so fugging stupid, endless, hysterical and frankly (a lot of it) irresponsible, that I don't feel like I've got room to do that. If this guy had any traditional "honeymoon" period, I would've posted a report card just like JD's and focused on the things that legitimately give me pause. But today for example, Michael Moore is calling for Trump's arrest. Sweet Baby Jesus.

Russia again?

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The crap going on right now is so overblown that even if you turned sour on Trump, they've created a situation akin to "he is the enemy of my enemy."

No persuasion going on. Only a brute force attempt at...whatever.
 
GatewayPundit = fake news.
Rasmussen, one of the few pollsters that got the election. Sorry, everything else seems to be
Personally, I hope the Obama shadow government, along with Soros, keeps it up. It's doubling down on stupid and it is strengthening the already strong support of Trump people toward their president. I have already said it multiple times on this board, and I will say it again. If you are a Trump supporter, beware the calm.
 
Rasmussen, one of the few pollsters that got the election.

I get that.

That is the exact same approval rating Rasmussen has reported since he has become president.

It's not the Rasmussen poll that appears to be the fake news.

It's gatewaypundit's characterization of what they show and mean.

Granted, I did take @07pilt at his word that those are the same numbers.....so what say you to that?
 
The media and elite have doomed us with global warming change. They lied and went over the top which is commonly done when you have a solid case, right? Now we have anti trumpism going nuts story after story after story and hypocritical lefties losing their minds. If trump is as dangerous as the left says he is then it will be their fault for putting crying wolf on auto pilot and the rest of us ignoring them.

Present your case with facts. Anonymous sources are now just a part of life and rational people don't buy that shit.
 
It kind of depends upon how you look at it. IMO, here is no statistical difference, but his approval rating is up slightly today.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...p_administration/trump_approval_index_history
Thank for doing my research for me. :p
So no statistical difference, but up slightly today get's characterized like this.....

"President Trump’s approval rating went up on Wednesday despite the continued onslaught of criticism by the liberal American media.

This comes one day after General Flynn resigned as National Security Adviser to the president.

Americans may be viewing the president as a sympathetic character as the media continues to steamroll him in their daily reports.

Rasmussen reported, via Free Republic:"

And interpreted and rebroadcast by faithful Trump cheerleaders as this.....

Doubling down on stupid via the Obama shadow government. The gift that keeps on giving.

Like I said....fake news.
 
I get that.



It's not the Rasmussen poll that appears to be the fake news.

It's gatewaypundit's characterization of what they show and mean.

Granted, I did take @07pilt at his word that those are the same numbers.....so what say you to that?
Quite honestly, I see the efforts of the Obama Shadow government as building on the very narrative that got Donald Trump elected president to begin with. This is the kind of stuff that led the democrat party down a pathway that lost them thousands of elected positions across the country, the loss of the United States House, the loss of the United States Senate, the loss of the United States presidency, and now a huge loss in the United States Supreme Court in addition to losses across the country in the various other courts. Obama did the Democrat Party no favors while he was in office and he is doing them no favors now. Reasonable minded Democrats see the shadow government as illegal and dangerous, and moderate Republicans see it much the same. Hardcore Trump supporters will circle the wagons more effectively than ever before. This is what I see amongst all of my many friends and contacts across the political spectrum. Having said all of that, I hope the Obama Shadow government keeps it up and that George Soros ups the ante on his behalf as well. President Trump is a revolutionary, and a revolutionary doesn't need peace and calm to enact his agenda. He needs the exact opposite.
 
I don't know about the rest of the country but I know a LOT of relatively reluctant Trump voters who feel this way. Myself included. And frankly it is irritating because I would naturally take a more skeptical track on him but most of the dog piling is so fugging stupid, endless, hysterical and frankly (a lot of it) irresponsible, that I don't feel like I've got room to do that. If this guy had any traditional "honeymoon" period, I would've posted a report card just like JD's and focused on the things that legitimately give me pause. But today for example, Michael Moore is calling for Trump's arrest. Sweet Baby Jesus.

Russia again?

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I would love to be more skeptical of Trump, but the liberals don't like him, and the extent of my political ideology is pissing off liberals.
 
I would love to be more skeptical of Trump, but the liberals don't like him, and the extent of my political ideology is pissing off liberals.

Not a very nuanced take on my post. However, speaking of progressives...

. If trump is as dangerous as the left says he is then it will be their fault for putting crying wolf on auto pilot and the rest of us ignoring them.

This is an underrated truism, and maybe a better way of saying what I was trying to say ITT.
 
Doubling down on stupid via the Obama shadow government. The gift that keeps on giving.

"President Trump’s approval rating went up on Wednesday despite the continued onslaught of criticism by the liberal American media.

"This comes one day after General Flynn resigned as National Security Adviser to the president.

"Americans may be viewing the president as a sympathetic character as the media continues to steamroll him in their daily reports."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/trump-approval-goes-media-mush-pile-general-flynn/
"Polls"
 
I don't know about the rest of the country but I know a LOT of relatively reluctant Trump voters who feel this way. Myself included. And frankly it is irritating because I would naturally take a more skeptical track on him but most of the dog piling is so fugging stupid, endless, hysterical and frankly (a lot of it) irresponsible, that I don't feel like I've got room to do that. If this guy had any traditional "honeymoon" period, I would've posted a report card just like JD's and focused on the things that legitimately give me pause. But today for example, Michael Moore is calling for Trump's arrest. Sweet Baby Jesus.

Russia again?

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Does Trump exacerbate the problem by how he reacts/interacts with the media?
 
Quite honestly, I see the efforts of the Obama Shadow government as building on the very narrative that got Donald Trump elected president to begin with. This is the kind of stuff that led the democrat party down a pathway that lost them thousands of elected positions across the country, the loss of the United States House, the loss of the United States Senate, the loss of the United States presidency, and now a huge loss in the United States Supreme Court in addition to losses across the country in the various other courts. Obama did the Democrat Party no favors while he was in office and he is doing them no favors now. Reasonable minded Democrats see the shadow government as illegal and dangerous, and moderate Republicans see it much the same. Hardcore Trump supporters will circle the wagons more effectively than ever before. This is what I see amongst all of my many friends and contacts across the political spectrum. Having said all of that, I hope the Obama Shadow government keeps it up and that George Soros ups the ante on his behalf as well. President Trump is a revolutionary, and a revolutionary doesn't need peace and calm to enact his agenda. He needs the exact opposite.

Okay cheerleader.

You still quoted fake news.
 
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Quite honestly, I see the efforts of the Obama Shadow government as building on the very narrative that got Donald Trump elected president to begin with. This is the kind of stuff that led the democrat party down a pathway that lost them thousands of elected positions across the country, the loss of the United States House, the loss of the United States Senate, the loss of the United States presidency, and now a huge loss in the United States Supreme Court in addition to losses across the country in the various other courts. Obama did the Democrat Party no favors while he was in office and he is doing them no favors now. Reasonable minded Democrats see the shadow government as illegal and dangerous, and moderate Republicans see it much the same. Hardcore Trump supporters will circle the wagons more effectively than ever before. This is what I see amongst all of my many friends and contacts across the political spectrum. Having said all of that, I hope the Obama Shadow government keeps it up and that George Soros ups the ante on his behalf as well. President Trump is a revolutionary, and a revolutionary doesn't need peace and calm to enact his agenda. He needs the exact opposite.
Let me get this straight - DJT isn't capable of overcoming the remnants of the worst President since Carter? You sure you want to stick with that line?

"The ghost of BHO's fault"?
 
Does Trump exacerbate the problem by how he reacts/interacts with the media?

Of course - but understand, I view the corporate media the same way he does.

As regards Trump, I don't perceive a big difference in the "problem" between neocons, progressives, deep state bureaucrats and corporate media. Aka 'The Swamp.' Strange bedfellows, sure. But they are aligned in their hysterical opposition and that is a big turnoff to a lot of people after an exhausting campaign.

His Twitter acct is a middle finger to all of them.

Two years ago the guy was a fairly popular harmless celebrity. Now he's Hitler - because he was a private citizen who dared seriously run for and win the presidency.

The swamp doesn't want to be drained (cut off from power, influence, corruption, globalist agendas) and this guy is serious about doing that.

I feel like I have to constantly post disclaimers but I'm really kind of tired of that. Anyone can see the guy is going to make mistakes and when he does he should be held accountable - but anyone who is pro liberty and anti globalism should recognize he's probably our last best chance to be Reagan's shining city on the hill again.
 
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Of course - but understand, I view the corporate media the same way he does.

As regards Trump, I don't perceive a big difference in the "problem" between neocons, progressives, deep state bureaucrats and corporate media. Aka 'The Swamp.' Strange bedfellows, sure. But they are aligned in their hysterical opposition and that is a big turnoff to a lot of people after an exhausting campaign.

His Twitter acct is a middle finger to all of them.

Two years ago the guy was a fairly popular harmless celebrity. Now he's Hitler - because he was a private citizen who dared seriously run for and win the presidency.

The swamp doesn't want to be drained (cut off from power, influence, corruption, globalist agendas) and this guy is serious about doing that.

I feel like I have to constantly post disclaimers but I'm really kind of tired of that. Anyone can see the guy is going to make mistakes and when he does he should be held accountable - but anyone who is pro liberty and anti globalism should recognize he's probably our last best chance to be Reagan's shining city on the hill again.
I agree.
 
Was it "breaking" a story, getting out in front of what would surely be political attacks from Republicans conducting the Benghazi investigation?

"The existence of Mrs. Clinton’s personal email account was discovered by a House committee investigating the attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi as it sought correspondence between Mrs. Clinton and her aides about the attack.

Two weeks ago, the State Department, after reviewing Mrs. Clinton’s emails, provided the committee with about 300 emails — amounting to roughly 900 pages — about the Benghazi attacks"
 
Wow.

The last best hope of saving America.

Wow.
Wow.

The last best hope of saving America.

Wow.

Last best. Not "last". You've got two eyes and can see from these reactions how for down the path to globalism we are.

There could obviously be better candidates but do we have time to wait for the perfect one? <- this is my point and you know it.
 
Last best. Not "last". You've got two eyes and can see from these reactions how for down the path to globalism we are.

There could obviously be better candidates but do we have time to wait for the perfect one? <- this is my point and you know it.

I typed "last best", not "last".....and you know it.

Given the origin of "last best hope", that phrase does not signify to me what you claim you meant. So no, I did not know that was your point. Maybe you should make your points clearer and more explicit rather than going for the dramatic moment and then accusing me of deliberately misconstruing your statement. Just a suggestion.

Fellow-citizens, we cannot escape history. We of this Congress and this administration, will be remembered in spite of ourselves. No personal significance, or insignificance, can spare one or another of us. The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the latest generation. We say we are for the Union. The world will not forget that we say this. We know how to save the Union. The world knows we do know how to save it. We -- even we here -- hold the power, and bear the responsibility. In giving freedom to the slave, we assure freedom to the free -- honorable alike in what we give, and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth. Other means may succeed; this could not fail. The way is plain, peaceful, generous, just -- a way which, if followed, the world will forever applaud, and God must forever bless.

Even then....as a liberty lover...I have concerns about Trumps authoritarian style of leadership so hearing he is my last best hope for freedom.....even with your interpretation of what that means.... is still a wow moment for me.....less of one, but still.
 
I typed "last best", not "last".....and you know it.

Given the origin of "last best hope", that phrase does not signify to me what you claim you meant. So no, I did not know that was your point. Maybe you should make your points clearer and more explicit rather than going for the dramatic moment and then accusing me of deliberately misconstruing your statement. Just a suggestion.

Fellow-citizens, we cannot escape history. We of this Congress and this administration, will be remembered in spite of ourselves. No personal significance, or insignificance, can spare one or another of us. The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the latest generation. We say we are for the Union. The world will not forget that we say this. We know how to save the Union. The world knows we do know how to save it. We -- even we here -- hold the power, and bear the responsibility. In giving freedom to the slave, we assure freedom to the free -- honorable alike in what we give, and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth. Other means may succeed; this could not fail. The way is plain, peaceful, generous, just -- a way which, if followed, the world will forever applaud, and God must forever bless.

Even then....as a liberty lover...I have concerns about Trumps authoritarian style of leadership so hearing he is my last best hope for freedom.....even with your interpretation of what that means.... is still a wow moment for me.....less of one, but still.

Since the election it's become more obvious to me than I knew (and I believed it was bad) - just how far down the road we have already gone toward European style globalist socialism.

Trump's election took the mask off of that. Nothing in any of our lifetimes compares to what we've seen with riots, nonstop nuclear option hyperbole and coordinated establishment narratives meant specifically to undermine a US president.

1. A Hillary presidency woulve sealed the deal and put us in my opinion past the point of return to classic liberalism.

2. No other GOP candidate with the possible exceptions of Cruz and Fiorina were going to be anything but a sacrificial lamb following their scripts to prop up Hillary Clinton.

3. Gary Johnson had no chance, was an idiot and was a sketchy at best libertarian sample. Any other year of uniparty R vs Uniparty D, I would've voted for him without a second thought.

Given these facts, I see time slipping away and the fact that Trump is a clear outsider (this was debatable at one time) who is hated by the entire establishment, make him seem like a potential perfect storm. Make no mistake, this is NOT fan boy adulation no matter how many times it's implied or suggested. I see a window. I see a mistake to be exploited.

The establishment basically left an exhaust shaft unshielded that an unconventional pilot could use to blow up the Death Star. I want that MF'er blown up.

The establishment will fix the back door that let Trump win the GOP and your perfect libertarian - if he or she exists - will have an even more impossible task to win.

The uniparty protects itself and right now is being punished for its hubris. Like it or not, Trump is that instrument of punishment.

So yeah - given where we are headed and how unlikely this opportunity was in hindsight, I hope the arrogant bastard fulfills every promise and continues to fill the courts with originalists.

It is not a cult of personality that makes me root for him. He specifically appeals to my libertarian ideals. Most of them anyway. he wasn't supposed to win but he did and is wreaking havoc on the machine.

Have some faith in the checks and balances. He's not going to be an authoritarian overlord even if he wants to be. But he can absolutely dismantle the swamp.

As for last best - when do you see a better alternative coming over the horizon and where will we be by then if he doesn't drain the swamp?
 
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Since the election it's become more obvious to me than I knew (and I believed it was bad) - just how far down the road we have already gone toward European style globalist socialism.

Trump's election took the mask off of that. Nothing in any of our lifetimes compares to what we've seen with riots, nonstop nuclear option hyperbole and coordinated establishment narratives meant specifically to undermine a US president.

1. A Hillary presidency woulve sealed the deal and put us in my opinion past the point of return to classic liberalism.

2. No other GOP candidate with the possible exceptions of Cruz and Fiorina were going to be anything but a sacrificial lamb following their scripts to prop up Hillary Clinton.

3. Gary Johnson had no chance, was an idiot and was a sketchy at best libertarian sample. Any other year of uniparty R vs Uniparty D, I would've voted for him without a second thought.

Given these facts, I see time slipping away and the fact that Trump is a clear outsider (this was debatable at one time) who is hated by the entire establishment, make him seem like a potential perfect storm. Make no mistake, this is NOT fan boy adulation no matter how many times it's implied or suggested. I see a window. I see a mistake to be exploited.

The establishment basically left an exhaust shaft unshielded that an unconventional pilot could use to blow up the Death Star. I want that MF'er blown up.

The establishment will fix the back door that let Trump win the GOP and your perfect libertarian - if he or she exists - will have an even more impossible task to win.

The uniparty protects itself and right now is being punished for its hubris. Like it or not, Trump is that instrument of punishment.

So yeah - given where we are headed and how unlikely this opportunity was in hindsight, I hope the arrogant bastard fulfills every promise and continues to fill the courts with originalists.

It is not a cult of personality that makes me root for him. He specifically appeals to my libertarian ideals. Most of them anyway. he wasn't supposed to win but he did and is wreaking havoc on the machine.

Have some faith in the checks and balances. He's not going to be an authoritarian overlord even if he wants to be. But he can absolutely dismantle the swamp.

As for last best - when do you see a better alternative coming over the horizon and where will we be by then if he doesn't drain the swamp?
Very well stated.
 
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Since the election it's become more obvious to me than I knew (and I believed it was bad) - just how far down the road we have already gone toward European style globalist socialism.

Trump's election took the mask off of that. Nothing in any of our lifetimes compares to what we've seen with riots, nonstop nuclear option hyperbole and coordinated establishment narratives meant specifically to undermine a US president.

1. A Hillary presidency woulve sealed the deal and put us in my opinion past the point of return to classic liberalism.

2. No other GOP candidate with the possible exceptions of Cruz and Fiorina were going to be anything but a sacrificial lamb following their scripts to prop up Hillary Clinton.

3. Gary Johnson had no chance, was an idiot and was a sketchy at best libertarian sample. Any other year of uniparty R vs Uniparty D, I would've voted for him without a second thought.

Given these facts, I see time slipping away and the fact that Trump is a clear outsider (this was debatable at one time) who is hated by the entire establishment, make him seem like a potential perfect storm. Make no mistake, this is NOT fan boy adulation no matter how many times it's implied or suggested. I see a window. I see a mistake to be exploited.

The establishment basically left an exhaust shaft unshielded that an unconventional pilot could use to blow up the Death Star. I want that MF'er blown up.

The establishment will fix the back door that let Trump win the GOP and your perfect libertarian - if he or she exists - will have an even more impossible task to win.

The uniparty protects itself and right now is being punished for its hubris. Like it or not, Trump is that instrument of punishment.

So yeah - given where we are headed and how unlikely this opportunity was in hindsight, I hope the arrogant bastard fulfills every promise and continues to fill the courts with originalists.

It is not a cult of personality that makes me root for him. He specifically appeals to my libertarian ideals. Most of them anyway. he wasn't supposed to win but he did and is wreaking havoc on the machine.

Have some faith in the checks and balances. He's not going to be an authoritarian overlord even if he wants to be. But he can absolutely dismantle the swamp.

As for last best - when do you see a better alternative coming over the horizon and where will we be by then if he doesn't drain the swamp?

Fair enough....still a bit dramatic for my personal taste, but fair enough.

I don't view the threat of "European style globalist socialism" as being such an imminent threat as you do.

I don't see us as anywhere close to the tipping point of now return as you do.

I don't see how you can on one hand say he appeals to most of your specific libertarian ideals and advise me to have faith in the checks and balances to keep him from being an authoritarian overlord if he wants. I shouldn't have to rely upon the checks and balances to rein in a candidate that appeals to my libertarian ideals. "Thank goodness we've got those checks and balances in case he tries something" and "appeals to my libertarian ideals" are basically diametrically opposed statements.

As for alternatives....Rand Paul, Justin Amash, much (not all) of the House Liberty Caucus, Austin Petersen is contemplating running for Rep or Sen to represent Missouri, and Senator Mike Lee of Utah all immediately come to mind. As for where we'll be? We'll be fine. We're not anywhere near the point of no return. In fact, anti-globalist socialism is gaining ground, not losing it.

Now on to this response:

Last best. Not "last". You've got two eyes and can see from these reactions how for down the path to globalism we are.

There could obviously be better candidates but do we have time to wait for the perfect one? <- this is my point and you know it.

I simply disagree with the first sentence. I don't think we are so far the path of globalism that you do.

In the second you were full of crap in asserting that the post that elicited my "wow" post clearly expressed the stated point and I "knew it".

For the record.
 
Fair enough....still a bit dramatic for my personal taste, but fair enough.

I don't view the threat of "European style globalist socialism" as being such an imminent threat as you do.

I don't see us as anywhere close to the tipping point of now return as you do.

I don't see how you can on one hand say he appeals to most of your specific libertarian ideals and advise me to have faith in the checks and balances to keep him from being an authoritarian overlord if he wants. I shouldn't have to rely upon the checks and balances to rein in a candidate that appeals to my libertarian ideals. "Thank goodness we've got those checks and balances in case he tries something" and "appeals to my libertarian ideals" are basically diametrically opposed statements.

As for alternatives....Rand Paul, Justin Amash, much (not all) of the House Liberty Caucus, Austin Petersen is contemplating running for Rep or Sen to represent Missouri, and Senator Mike Lee of Utah all immediately come to mind. As for where we'll be? We'll be fine. We're not anywhere near the point of no return. In fact, anti-globalist socialism is gaining ground, not losing it.

Now on to this response:



I simply disagree with the first sentence. I don't think we are so far the path of globalism that you do.

In the second you were full of crap in asserting that the post that elicited my "wow" post clearly expressed the stated point and I "knew it".

For the record.

Full disclosure: After years of dealing with my ex wife's bottom feeder attorney, my own overpriced pompous ass divorce attorney, 3 worthless family court judges, court appointed divorce industry leaches and tens of thousands of dollars spent fighting nothing but greedy lawyer enabled vindictiveness - I enjoy torquing lawyers on message boards. :)

Even good dudes whom I respect.

Good reply. I'll tackle it after the game.
 
Full disclosure: After years of dealing with my ex wife's bottom feeder attorney, my own overpriced pompous ass divorce attorney, 3 worthless family court judges, court appointed divorce industry leaches and tens of thousands of dollars spent fighting nothing but greedy lawyer enabled vindictiveness - I enjoy torquing lawyers on message boards. :)

Even good dudes whom I respect.

Good reply. I'll tackle it after the game.

No worries.

Understood. I have said the worst part about being a lawyer is having to deal with other lawyers more than once.
 
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Full disclosure: After years of dealing with my ex wife's bottom feeder attorney, my own overpriced pompous ass divorce attorney, 3 worthless family court judges, court appointed divorce industry leaches and tens of thousands of dollars spent fighting nothing but greedy lawyer enabled vindictiveness - I enjoy torquing lawyers on message boards. :)

Even good dudes whom I respect.

Good reply. I'll tackle it after the game.
there's a game on?
 
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