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True Detective season 2

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I feel like I just got trolled by the all time hoax of a show. The writers are getting a laugh at all of our expenses.
 
In one of these threads somewhere I quoted the head of HBO programming as having said a couple of weeks ago that the ending of season 2 TD was "satisfying."

Apparently, I have been F'N misled my entire gd life as to what the word "satisfying" means.
 
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Terrible finale for a terrible season. The question for me is if they do a season 3 will I watch?.....probably because I'm gullible.
 
It was pretty much true to the season. Mediocre at best. As expected Ray & Frank died. Frank with over dramatic dialog and acting. Ray after finally opening up to Ani. Of course love doomed them and of course his fatal mistake was loving his son. But most of all the killer was someone we saw in episode two or three for thirty seconds and was never mentioned one time afterwards.

I'll watch season three because at this point they are 1 for 2 which is better odds then most TV. When it was good in season one it was really good so it's going to take more the Vince Vaughn to make me give it up.
 
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What a steaming pile of crap.

Last night's episode was painful to watch. Here are my votes for 3 most painful scenes of the episode (but I could easily list 10 if I felt the urge).

1). Frank and Jordan's goodbye scene at the beginning of the episode. I'm not sure if the problem was the dialog or the acting, but I really wanted that scene to end from the moment it began.

2). The scene with Ray and his son at the school. No way would a kid carry that block of plastic (grandpa's badge) to school. If he did, no way would he take it outside with him to lunch. The cheesy salutes, at the end....nuff said.

3). Frank's death scene as he meandered across the sand. So stupid.
 
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The scene with Jordan and Frank was terrible. You wear a white dress, and I'll wear a white suit with a rose in it? Ugh.

I actually didn't hate the scenes with Ray and his kid and Frank in the desert other than the fact it was so stupid of Ray to go to his kid's school in the first place. We just had the whole scene in the airport or train station or whatever with the police captain telling Ray how competent he was and then Ray drives to one of the few places people could be waiting for him? It just didn't make any sense for the character. And also, did you notice there was no water anywhere on the street except for directly under Ray's car, conveniently allowing him to see the red light from the tracker? One in a long line of coincidences that propelled this season's narrative.

If this show does come back for a third season, it won't be on my automatic watch list. I'll wait to see what the consensus is.
 
I have 3 episodes left on the DVR and I'm probably just going to delete them.

I haven't been as disappointed in a 'sequel' since Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
 
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The Frank and Jordan scene was one of the worst scenes I've ever watched. I told my wife out loud that I needed it to end. Was there something I missed about the white dress and suit? They know what each other look like....just look for the face or Jordan's overly dramatic sexy walk.

Also, was Velcoro driving his own car? It sure looked like it. How do you drive your own car when there is a statewide manhunt going on and why do you drive to the middle of the redwood forest when you're trying to use your cell phone? Maybe you could have instead had Rachel McAdams fire up some of that arsenal that Frank had at his hideout and lead them right into a trap. Geez what a terrible finale.
 
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I don't think it was water under the car, but gasoline. They punctured his tank and that's why he was quickly running out of fuel.


My thought is that they wrote a better script but it failed to upload.
 
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I don't think it was water under the car, but gasoline. They punctured his tank and that's why he was quickly running out of fuel.

You might be right about the gasoline. I thought it looked pretty dark, but some other site I was reading said water. Gasoline at least makes it seem less stupid although I'm not sure why all the gas wouldn't have drained out if they punctured something underneath the car. He drove away in that same car, right? I'm about as far from a car expert as it's possible to be, though.
 
I'm not buying gasoline. I mean, it is possible, but it would be really poor writing (which would actually be par for the course). The way I see it, there are 2 big problems with it being gasoline. 1). If that much leaked that quick, the car wouldn't have made it out of the neighborhood before running out of gas. 2). If you are going to put a tracking device on the car, the reason would be that you want Ray to lead you back to the stolen papers, Rachel McAdams, the Hard Drive, or something else you want. In that case, you surely are not going to puncture the gas tank and give him a reason to look under the car.

I, actually, didn't have a problem with the water. Maybe someone just washed their car in that spot, or an irrigation pipe was leaking. Maybe he parked in a depression that collected water from the last time it rained, but is deep enough that it takes a few extra days to completely dry out. Not that difficult to imagine a scenario where there is a puddle on the the street while the surrounding street is dry.
 
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Thinking about True Detective, in general, worries me that Pizzolato is going to end up with a similar career path to M. Night Shyamalan. The latter burst onto the scene with "The 6th Sense", and there was a lot of praise and predictions that he was going to be the next wunderkind director. His next movie was so-so. After that, he kept trying and trying and failing and failing. The second season of TD was so bad, that I have a hard time thinking that Pizzolato will turn out to be anything more than a 1 hit wonder. I didn't love Season 1, when it was over, as much as I loved the first 6-7 episodes, but those 6-7 episodes were really, really good. The dialogue was good. The writing was good. The acting was superlative. The casting was great. Clues were presented at a perfect rate. There was a huge drop off in all aspects this season. I think the biggest mistake was in going from 2 main characters to 4. Maybe he will cut it down to 2 or 3 next season and get back on track.
 
It was freaking awful. I just watched it. Just awful.

I can't blame Vaughn. What kind of lines are those?

Wear that white dress. You wear a white suit. GTFO with that shit.

Meet me in the park in two weeks. Just wait all freaking day because there's no need for a specific time, like noon. Just fn wait...in your white dress.

The whole thing was pathetic. I don't even have the time to rant about it. Unreal.
 
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This season was nuts. Started incredibly slow, then for the 6/7th (maybe even ep 5) episodes picked up steam, then fell flat with that finale. I think the actors/acting was fine, but that was an awful story. I am fine with the bad guys winning, but that was just a horrible story. I am not convinced that I will waste time on season 3. That was franchise-killing bad.
 
The Frank and Jordan scene was one of the worst scenes I've ever watched. I told my wife out loud that I needed it to end. Was there something I missed about the white dress and suit? They know what each other look like....just look for the face or Jordan's overly dramatic sexy walk.
Come on, give the writers a break...how is Frank's wife suppose to recognize her 6'4", big-forheaded, balding, white guy husband in Venezuela, if not for the white suit & rose?

Seriously, that train station scene may be one of the worst written scenes I've ever watched in my life. That is a scene where an A-hole actor was needed. One of those actors who just says, "You can't be serious! I'm not doing this...no way!...not without a rewrite."
 
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BTW, I would have given the season a B- up until the finale, but that ending was just awful. And like bronco said, it wasn't because of the bad guys winning; it's was all the horrendous storyline decisions the characters made.

Also, I've lived in LA County for 15 1/2 years, and I have no idea where that damn forest is. I'm not saying it does not exist, but I've never seen anything like that near LA. Now, the train stations (Union Station & the new stop in Anaheim, where you can even see Angels stadium in the background)...those were 100% So Cal. (I've spent far too many hours on the trains the last few years.)
 
Come on, give the writers a break...how is Frank's wife suppose to recognize her 6'4", big-forheaded, balding, white guy husband in Venezuela, if not for the white suit & rose?

Seriously, that train station scene may be one of the worst written scenes I've ever watched in my life. That is a scene where an A-hole actor was needed. One of those actors who just says, "You can't be serious! I'm not doing this...no way!...not without a rewrite."

Someone needed to stop the madness. An actor, an HBO exec, the Best Boy (what is a best boy, anyway?).
 
Best boys are like foremen (or women?) of some part of the crew, usually lighting or filming.
 
That's a funny deadspin take on the dialogue. I gotta admit though...I did like the line where the corrupt black cop told Velcoro we'd have let you in, but we didn't think you were that competent.

Oh...and even my wife laughed at the way Velcoro was dressed when going to the Anaheim train station (the Cowboy hat, jean jacket, boots and glasses)...very incognito.

I don't know, if I'm the most wanted man in Cali, I might shave, cut my hair, maybe even color it...but wear that get up...ummmm...NO!
 
Wear that white dress. You wear a white suit.

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http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/tr...23048186#_ga=1.47576743.1474766552.1427914380

This was my favorite piece of season 2 wrap-up. You've got to read the commentary too.


There was some really funny stuff in that link. This was my favorite (from the comments)....



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Paul Woodrugh, Landscaper: “These trees. They have leaves all over them.”

Paul Woodrugh, Zookeeper: “These animals. They have fur all over them.”

Paul Woodrugh, Entomologist: “These anthills. They have ants all over them.”
 
This season suuuuuuuuuucked. Holy shitballs. I feel like I got catfished. I didn't like one F'ing episode. Not one scene. Hated all the stupid characters, terrible casting and shit acting.

Convoluted and faux-complicated. It just seemed complicated and high minded because it was vague, hard to hear and shot with shitty yellow filters.

This season confirms my suspicions that last season was awesome because the leads were so well cast and it was easy to mistake lazy flawed shit as edgy when those guys sold it.

I'll give next season a spin but will not invest more than two episodes before I trust my brain which told me all season this lame shit was not going anywhere.

Hated it.
 
They foretold Ray's death and how in episode 3. And it was such a bad scene that no one could watch it and remember it.

 
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This season suuuuuuuuuucked. Holy shitballs. I feel like I got catfished. I didn't like one F'ing episode. Not one scene. Hated all the stupid characters, terrible casting and shit acting.

Convoluted and faux-complicated. It just seemed complicated and high minded because it was vague, hard to hear and shot with shitty yellow filters.

This season confirms my suspicions that last season was awesome because the leads were so well cast and it was easy to mistake lazy flawed shit as edgy when those guys sold it.

I'll give next season a spin but will not invest more than two episodes before I trust my brain which told me all season this lame shit was not going anywhere.

Hated it.
So, Mega, tell us...how do you really feel?:)
 
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