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Tournaments Nov, Dec and Jan that our non starters will be going too

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mike tognetti

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Nov 8 Bethany Swede Open- Linsborg, Ks


Nov 16 Oklahoma Open- Tulsa, OK Expo Square Pavilion


Nov 22 Lindenwood Open- St Charles, Mo


On Dec 7-FHSU Bob Smith Open- Hays, Ks


Dec 21- Reno TOC, Reno, Nv
This post was edited on 11/6 3:53 PM by mike tognetti
 
Re: Tournaments Nov and Dec that our non starters will be going too

Good info! Thanks.
 
Re: Tournaments Nov and Dec that our non starters will be going too




the non-starters are going to RTOC ?
 
Re: Tournaments Nov and Dec that our non starters will be going too

Per the RTOC website, they are going to an open tournament this year rather than the college tournament it has been.

This post was edited on 11/6 4:29 PM by proud2bpokes
 
Re: Tournaments Nov and Dec that our non starters will be going too


Not all of them, If I find out before hand I will post who.

In Jan there are a few more tournaments.Jan 25- Roger Decker Open,- Warrensburg, Mo
Jan 31-Missouri Valley Open-Missouri Valley College, Mo
 
Re: Tournaments Nov and Dec that our non starters will be going too

Mike, thanks for posting this. I'll try and get these added to OSU's schedule on WrestleStat sometime this weekend. Unless someone gets it done before me...
 
looked at track wrestling and didn't see any of our non starters at the swede open. is that due to wrestle off this weekend if so does anyone have any inside info about in the room wrestle offs?
 
Everybody wrestled at wrestle-offs so they all stayed here. Thompsonja give me your email address.
This post was edited on 11/8 4:30 PM by mike tognetti
 
That would be because of the ranking matches today in the room. I did not go but got a report. I will allow someone who was actually there to give results but I can say there were a lot of upsets. A lot of the upsets may be due to first time down at scratch weight for most of them. Surprises at 125,133,141,157 for sure but maybe not to the coaches. Crutchmer/Rogers maybe what most want to know about and Rogers came out on top both figuratively and literally. I trust my source but again I was not there and I understand there were 20-25 spectators so I will let them post.
 
I was not trying to be coy in my post because I thought that someone who was actually there should post but I will relay what I learned from my very good source.

125. This weight was won by Austin Miller today who was undefeated and I understand he defeated Eddie handily. Eddie has been out of the room for a while and obviously behind but Miller had 4-5 takedowns and won easily.

133 Dean Heil lost twice and apparently was pinned by Gary Wayne Harding who was undefeated on the day. Again, this was the first time down to weight for most and as I understand it the wrestlers had to make scratch weight.

141 Mike Magaldo was undefeated on the day and decisioned Davey Dolan who was also beaten by Dusty Hone.

149 Josh Kindig was not pushed and had no problems being undefeated.

157 Anthony Collica was undefeated. Marsteller lost to Blees. Collica handled Blees. Marsteller definitely looked to be gassed in more than one match. Koo also beat Marsteller and Collica defeated Koo.

165 Alex did not wrestle. Chandler Rogers was undefeated and looked very good.

174 Jordan Rogers beat Crutchmer and I understand pinned him. He was dominant prior to pinning him.

184 Nolan Boyd looked good but did not have the competition that other weights had.

197 Austin Schafer won this weight and did decision Luke Bean the transfer from Arizona State who won the OKC open last week.

285 Austin Marsden had no problems with the other two heavyweights.

I can really not comment beyond the above as I was not there. My reporter in the room did attribute a lot of the outcomes at least partially, to several wrestlers having to make weight for the first time. It looks like we have a ways to go to get into fighting shape and hopefully by or at least after Lindenwood we should have more of an idea where we stand at each weight. Those of you who might be shocked at Collica up at 157 and winning will get a surprise as he is much bigger than last year.
 
Thank you obe. Miller and Harding would have been my guess, don't think Magaldo crossed my mind for 41. I was thinking maybe Schumacher. I figured Koo or Torres at 57, Collica crossed my mind, but figured it was too much weight that soon.
 
I understand that the Magaldo/ Schumacher match was close and might have been decided by riding time held by Magaldo. I believe Dusty Hone also beat Schumacher but not sure about that. Not sure about Torres although I know he won a match but Collica as I said was undefeated.
 
Originally posted by oberebo:

I was not trying to be coy in my post because I thought that someone who was actually there should post but I will relay what I learned from my very good source.

125. This weight was won by Austin Miller today who was undefeated and I understand he defeated Eddie handily. Eddie has been out of the room for a while and obviously behind but Miller had 4-5 takedowns and won easily.

133 Dean Heil lost twice and apparently was pinned by Gary Wayne Harding who was undefeated on the day. Again, this was the first time down to weight for most and as I understand it the wrestlers had to make scratch weight.

141 Mike Magaldo was undefeated on the day and decisioned Davey Dolan who was also beaten by Dusty Hone.

149 Josh Kindig was not pushed and had no problems being undefeated.

157 Anthony Collica was undefeated. Marsteller lost to Blees. Collica handled Blees. Marsteller definitely looked to be gassed in more than one match. Koo also beat Marsteller and Collica defeated Koo.

165 Alex did not wrestle. Chandler Rogers was undefeated and looked very good.

174 Jordan Rogers beat Crutchmer and I understand pinned him. He was dominant prior to pinning him.

184 Nolan Boyd looked good but did not have the competition that other weights had.

197 Austin Schafer won this weight and did decision Luke Bean the transfer from Arizona State who won the OKC open last week.

285 Austin Marsden had no problems with the other two heavyweights.

I can really not comment beyond the above as I was not there. My reporter in the room did attribute a lot of the outcomes at least partially, to several wrestlers having to make weight for the first time. It looks like we have a ways to go to get into fighting shape and hopefully by or at least after Lindenwood we should have more of an idea where we stand at each weight. Those of you who might be shocked at Collica up at 157 and winning will get a surprise as he is much bigger than last year.
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Well everyone is kind of quiet. I know results like these are definitive but still interesting.

125 - Don't remember anyone talking about Austin. I still imagine Eddie will be in the mix.
133 - I wondered about GW wrestling the weight last weekend but what is up with Dean. Pretty decorated wrestler.
141 - Malgado still wrestling well. Does anyone think the wrestlers who went last weekend had an advantage?
157 - Not surprising Collica wrestled well as he is the most experienced. Perhaps Marstellar is having issues at this weight.
174 - Maybe Jordan has found his weight.
 
So Collica goes from 41 to 57? Wow. Especially considering he got pushed around a little at nationals at 41. Glad we got some unexpected surprise recruits at the lower weights. Great for Rogers....been hoping he could turn it on. Soundly beating Crutchmer is a very good sign.
 
My post on the results included reporting that Rogers pinned Crutchmer when he actually beat him 9-4. My source at the scene thought it was a pin as he had him on his back and possibly the time ran out and he thought it was a pin. The official results are all shown on the official OSU wrestling board. Strange to think that at this point our super star recruit is actually 5th on the totem pole having been soundly beaten by both Koo and Blees and Marsteller beating both of them.Torres won a match at this weight and Marsteller was 0-2. OB, yes I believe weight cutting played a big factor in the results and also the wrestlers like Harding, Magaldo, Koo, Blees etc. did definitely have an advantage after getting down to weight and competing last weekend. Not taking anything away from the ones who won but results could be different in a month's time. You hear stories all lthe time from multiple National champions on how they came into the OSU room and were being abused by not only their weight peers but wrestlers smaller than them I used to take some of these stories with a grain of salt but in many cases they were true.
 
Oberebo, Torres won two matches and was in the championship match against Collica. He gave Collica the only close match losing to him 8-6.
 
I say we redshirt Collica and Marstellar and let Torres go. My gut feel is Marstellar is a 165 pounder and next year Alex can go up to 174 and Marstellar can go at 165.

Probably should shirt Blees as well. He could probably wrestle 157 next year.

This post was edited on 11/10 12:04 PM by OSUMatFan
 
Originally posted by mike tognetti:
Oberebo, Torres won two matches and was in the championship match against Collica. He gave Collica the only close match losing to him 8-6.
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The two matches that Torres won were both against Koo according to the results at the wrestling site. I did not see the matches but I was told that the Collica/Torres match was not as close as the score would indicate but what do I know, I am not "the insider".
 
I guess the question is how big is Collica? If he could make 149 the next two years you would have to think that a redshirt would be best for him. If 157 is truly his weight let him wrestle this year as we will have a glut at 157 for the extended future.

What a conundrum.
 
Old wise one Oberebo, why do you think John had them wrestle against each other twice? Maybe it was a test between the two who was going to start and giving the other guy a chance to prove the first loss was a fluke. John did the same thing with Davey Dolan and Mike Magaldo but he gave Davey 2 full time matches and one over time match but Mike beat him all 3 times.

If you have no inside information than how do you know Chance didn't miss any practices because of nose or concussion?
This post was edited on 11/10 5:41 PM by mike tognetti
 
Collica came back from Summer weighing around 172 and grew some too. Been lifting weights since last spring and it shows.
 
For Collica to jump two weights and fit means he is very big. I would say pulling 23 pounds to wrestle 149 is just not going to happen again and it appears he is our 157 pounder this year. Coach Smith knows what he is doing and is closer to it than I am, but it a year of experience as a redshirt is worth a lot.
 
I believe Chandler Rogers will be a star multi-time All-American and national champion. He holds or more than holds his own against everyone from 157 through 174 from what I am told and from what little I witnessed. He was able to greatly benefit his senior year by being in Stillwater and working out in the OSU room. I think he will remain at 165 which means he will have to wait his turn behind AD but it would not shock me if next year he was the 165 pounder and Dierenger was the 174 pounder.
 
Re: Tournaments Nov and Dec that our non starters will be going too

Originally posted by proud2bpokes:
Per the RTOC website, they are going to an open tournament this year rather than the college tournament it has been.

This post was edited on 11/6 4:29 PM by proud2bpokes
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Reno has been an open the last couple of years. They had decided earlier in the year that they were going to turn it into an invitational (meaning no unattached wrestlers)...they've since gone back on that, apparently.
 
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