Many of you will remember that three years ago we were often called "the youngest team in the Nation". We were starting 3 freshman and playing two more.
(all stats I talk about are from conference only games as I think that is the best indicator)
Cobbins, Nash and Brian Williams were all starting and Guerrero was playing 16 minutes off the bench, and Soucek was playing more near the end of the year and showing at least SOME skills.
Cobbins averaged 6.2 pts and 7.2 rebs as a freshman, and shot 49 % from the field and 1.6 blocks/game. He has since regressed to 4.7 pts and 5.6 rebounds and 45% shooting. He is blocking more shots at about 2.4/game.
Nash as a freshman averaged 14.7 pts and 5.1 rebs. Now he is a slightly better scorer at 15.6 and slighyly worse rebounder at 4.6. He shoots way less threes now (he has never improved that part of his game either). If you only count his two-pt shots he is at 47% just like his freshman year.
Brian Williams had a very impressive freshman year at 11.9 pts and shooting 54% on his 2pt shots. He was also called the teams best defender by Ford. He seemed to regress after his freshman year and of course some/lots of that was due to his wrist injury and he transferred.
Soucek has also regressed some since his freshman year. He had a concussion that held him back but I'm not too sure he would have played much anyway.
The only one that is clearly better now is Guerrero. He was a disappointment as a freshman but as a soph last year at Fresno State (after redshirting) he averaged over 13 pts and 3.5 assists, 3.2 rebs and shot well overall. He was injured this year until the last couple weeks and still has all of next year. He should be very good by his sr year next season.
So in summary, the 3 that stuck around are more or less about like their freshman years as far at total production. Brian Williams and Guerrero transferred.
After that season 3 years ago I thought Nash, Cobbins and Williams all had a good chance to become All Conference players.
Nash still can be All Conference but overall it is quite a disappointment.
All of the above helps explain our current struggles vs what could have been with normal improvement from year-to-year.
(all stats I talk about are from conference only games as I think that is the best indicator)
Cobbins, Nash and Brian Williams were all starting and Guerrero was playing 16 minutes off the bench, and Soucek was playing more near the end of the year and showing at least SOME skills.
Cobbins averaged 6.2 pts and 7.2 rebs as a freshman, and shot 49 % from the field and 1.6 blocks/game. He has since regressed to 4.7 pts and 5.6 rebounds and 45% shooting. He is blocking more shots at about 2.4/game.
Nash as a freshman averaged 14.7 pts and 5.1 rebs. Now he is a slightly better scorer at 15.6 and slighyly worse rebounder at 4.6. He shoots way less threes now (he has never improved that part of his game either). If you only count his two-pt shots he is at 47% just like his freshman year.
Brian Williams had a very impressive freshman year at 11.9 pts and shooting 54% on his 2pt shots. He was also called the teams best defender by Ford. He seemed to regress after his freshman year and of course some/lots of that was due to his wrist injury and he transferred.
Soucek has also regressed some since his freshman year. He had a concussion that held him back but I'm not too sure he would have played much anyway.
The only one that is clearly better now is Guerrero. He was a disappointment as a freshman but as a soph last year at Fresno State (after redshirting) he averaged over 13 pts and 3.5 assists, 3.2 rebs and shot well overall. He was injured this year until the last couple weeks and still has all of next year. He should be very good by his sr year next season.
So in summary, the 3 that stuck around are more or less about like their freshman years as far at total production. Brian Williams and Guerrero transferred.
After that season 3 years ago I thought Nash, Cobbins and Williams all had a good chance to become All Conference players.
Nash still can be All Conference but overall it is quite a disappointment.
All of the above helps explain our current struggles vs what could have been with normal improvement from year-to-year.
