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This week has been fascinating

Jeff J.

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DISCLAIMER - I'm breaking my rule about not participating on the /pol board, but will refrain from talking directly about the candidates or parties, rather just tactics.

Like everyone else, I've been blown away by the events of the last week. The video, the debate, the media finally shedding their veil (not entirely voluntarily, of course) and not even attempting to maintain a facade of objectivity, Wikileaks, the magic appearance of violated women, James O'Keefe, etc.

While no one knows Assange's motivations for the Clinton email leaks - could be pro-Trump, could be anti-Clinton, could be trying to prevent WWIII, could just be "doing what he do" and bringing the info he has to light.

James O'Keefe and Project Veritas, well, there's no questioning his motivations. Very anti-Clinton, and thus pro-Trump.

In both cases, I've wondered all week why in the world they're not dropping the most damaging things they have, but rather are slowly and steadily releasing things that while relevant, aren't (to borrow O'Keefe's words) atomic bombs.

I happened across a tweet telling O'Keefe to hurry up and drop everything he has. His response left me dumbfounded for a moment.



Quite the "ah-ha!" moment for me. They're using the student's (Clinton and Obama's) tactics of the master (Alinsky) against them. O'Keefe, most certainly. Whether Assange and Wikileaks are intentionally doing it, we don't know...but intent or not, O'Keefe's picture sums up what Assange has been doing all week, and will apparently continue to do.

On the fringes of the web (8chan), it is widely believed within Anonymous that O'Keefe has Clinton on hidden camera calling African Americans the N-word and that Assange has the deleted Clinton emails. Believed to a degree of near certainty. You can bet that both campaigns believe that right now as well. So in effect, by Alinsky's rules for radicals, the mere thought that either or both of those things are coming is as bad or worse than it actually happening. Thus the reason for not unloading everything you have at once, or the best stuff first. Besides Alinsky tactics, there is also the 24-hour news cycle at play there as well.

I don't have any idea how it will ultimately play out, but it sure seems that the Wikileaks emails are "death by a thousand cuts." I'm not sure on O'Keefe just yet. The videos he's released so far are interesting, but not particularly damaging. So far.

Anyway, I broke my own rule about posting here because I have found all of the above fascinating and wanted some discussion on it.
 
On a related note, the day Podesta's Apple ID was posted in the document dump, a couple of hackers on 8chan and elsewhere claim to have gotten Podesta's current (at the time) email inbox and submitted it to Wikileaks. We'll see on that I guess. Some random person in the world did use the login info to completely delete both Podesta's iPhone and iPad.

Crazy world we're living in, folks!
 
I am a huge fan of what is going on right now and the chaos it is creating. I love seeing the rise of these alternative media and the way they are holding the powerful accountable to the people with transparency.
Roger, that.
 
On the fringes of the web (8chan), it is widely believed within Anonymous that O'Keefe has Clinton on hidden camera calling African Americans the N-word and that Assange has the deleted Clinton emails. Believed to a degree of near certainty. You can bet that both campaigns believe that right now as well.
I wonder what's left to use/allege against Trump? They've progressed from taped private conversations, to groping; I guess someone claiming full on sexual assault (rape?) would be next?
 
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Trump rolls out the dude across the aisle on the plane that not only called BS, but says the woman was flirting with Trump.

The only apparent witness on that one says BS.

There were 2 witnesses to the one at his resort in Florida. Her fiancé who says he didn't see it and Ray Charles. You just can't make this shit up.
 
I wonder what's left to use/allege against Trump? They've progressed from taped private conversations, to groping; I guess someone claiming full on sexual assault (rape?) would be next?

A Bill Cosby/Trump drug rape of Harambe's syster!
 
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Upon further review:

O'Keefe's stuff this week is pretty strong, but I'd still stop short of calling it an atomic bomb. He says he'll be releasing more regularly up through election day, so we'll see I guess.

It's pretty obvious the US government is really trying to tighten the noose on Assange. Seems to me they know the worst is yet to come?

Anyone else notice wikileaks has said they have 50,000 emails? As of today's Podesta release, they've put 17,000 out. 33,000 left. Hmm...where do I know that number from?
 
Also, has any one heard the theory/rumor that Trump has intentionally withheld his taxes in order to strategically release them because they show he's paid much, much more in taxes than Clinton?
 
Interesting twist to the story. The Creamer guy from the video (convicted felon) visited BO. A lot.

 
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Tying back to the OP and last post.
Creamer began his organizing career in 1970 working with Chicago’s Citizen Action Program (CAP), which had been organized by Saul Alinsky’s Industrial Areas Foundation. CAP successfully campaigned to reduce the sulfur dioxide in Chicago’s air by almost two thirds.
 
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Sadly there's a solid chance at this point. I wasn't planning on voting for president, but things have changed. Also, I didn't plan on my vote really mattering in Texas, but now according to the polls that may not be the case... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6104.html
If your vote ends up mattering in Texas it will be an electoral blow out nationally. I'd do it anyway though because it feels patriotic and civic or something.
 
Post-debate analysis on this narrow subject matter.

After the last 36 hours and the debate, the O'Keefee videos were more impactful than I thought originally.

The rumor/speculation about his tax returns being held back strategically? Can't imagine a better time to drop "oh, about that, they'll be released tomorrow and everyone will see just how much I've paid. It's more than you." than when it came up in the debate. Thus, I have to assume there's no tactical strike aspect to his tax info.
 
After the last 36 hours and the debate, the O'Keefee videos were more impactful than I thought originally.

I didn't watch last night. Do you mind elaborating on what prompted you to say this?
 
I didn't watch last night. Do you mind elaborating on what prompted you to say this?

Sure. The simple fact that was mentioned in the debate makes it more impactful than I had originally thought. The fact that it was done so in a more than a simple mention. It was one of the strongest blows Trump landed all night. Then in the hour or so of post-election coverage I watched, it consistently came up.
 
Haha. You can thank @Kenny Orange Powers. It actually makes me very uncomfortable to see every time I post and I plan on changing it Saturday after the game.
Hey that's fine sir. I don't want you to feel uncomfortable but wait and see how the game goes Saturday. If we look good then don't change anything! I'm superstitious
 
@Jeff J. And to Echo your sentiment in the title of the thread, this has been an incredibly fascinating week. And the upcoming week or two look to be even more incredible. It's honestly like everyday is a lengthy episode of a 30 part drama.

Hell, it's damn near a modern day Game of Thrones
 
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